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my office is a dead zone. wtf am i doing here?
Posted by: Fjorder at December 22, 2008 11:07 AM
It's about time Mr. B.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:10 AM
Fjorder...I love those Verizon Dead Zone commercials
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:10 AM
Fjorder, why don't you elf yourself?
http://officemenace.com/
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 11:13 AM
Well here it comes..
Commercial Loan Defaults May Triple as Rental Income Declines
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajBUTKShXZ7s&refer=home
Dec. 22 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. commercial properties at risk of default could triple if rental income from office, retail and apartment buildings drops by even 5 percent, a likely possibility given the recession, according to research by New York-based real estate analysts at Reis Inc.
I wonder what is going to happen to Fulton St. and Vanderbilt Ave. Most of the dumbasses want retarded rents! These store fronts will be vacant for the foreseeable future. Just a damn shame what greed and delusion can do to a neighborhood...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Does anyone know what is going into the spot between Bonita and the corner Bodega on DeKalb? I heard it is possibly a new bar that will also serve burgers and the like..
Posted by: FGCHill at December 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Yawn What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:19 AM
Biff, why don't you ef yourself?
That's for your 11:07 comment in the Monday Links...hint, hint
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 11:21 AM
my office is a dead zone too :( i guess ill be chatting with you freaks all day.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 22, 2008 11:23 AM
is it unrealistic to offer 550/sqft when the realtor/developer is asking for 610?
Posted by: chortik at December 22, 2008 11:24 AM
"i guess ill be chatting with you freaks all day."
As opposed to every other day, Rob? :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 11:25 AM
Not at all chortik....10% off is pretty standard...at least.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:27 AM
Am I the only one here not in an office? Argh....read the sign:
Unemployed attorney available...will type or do anything for income!
This market sucks.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at December 22, 2008 11:30 AM
thanks DIBS
Posted by: chortik at December 22, 2008 11:32 AM
anyone go to any open houses this weekend? saw something I liked in parkslope- but it just came on the market. Is it best to wait it out for a few weeks to see if the price gets cut like so many other listings?
Posted by: teachbk at December 22, 2008 11:33 AM
"my office is a dead zone. wtf am i doing here? "
Welcome to my world Fjorder! Well, for at least the next few days! It's only going to get worse as the week goes on. Is anyone else working Friday?
What, there is an empty storefront on the corner of Court at Baltic. The landlord forced the tenants out by raising the rent by a huge amount - last March, I believe. The storefront has been empty ever since. And I'm glad. The idiot pushed out a wonderful family business - Trusting Drycleaners - Mr. & Mrs. Oh. And now it's sits empty and I'm sure it will continue to sit empty for sometime, when it could have had a nice business paying what I'm sure this landlord would be thrilled to be getting now.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 11:35 AM
yes cobblehiller...nobody starting new businesses in this environment.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:37 AM
i'd wait to see if that 3.5 or 4.5% mortgages for home buyers get approved. i doubt the market is going anywhere in the next 4 weeks in new york. the finance guys are getting their bonuses cut 40-50%, and even that wont get paid 'till late jan, early feb.
Posted by: chortik at December 22, 2008 11:37 AM
cobblehiller, hopefully some wannabe fashionista will buy that empty store and sell and display her three rags, eh i mean coutoure dresses. who cares how high the rent is daddy down in atlanta is rich and will pay the lease for her to start her budding career as the next betsy johnson. barf
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 22, 2008 11:40 AM
Am I the only one here not in an office?
I won't be in an aoffice after 12.31.08, so you will have company after that Snappy.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 11:41 AM
You're probably right Rob, that will be who can afford it.
I wish I could think of something to do in that space - but I wouldn't want to give that landlord the money.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 11:42 AM
"Yawn What."
DAVE!!! Homeboy! Homeskillet!!! How ya doing!!!
Hey look I would like to see you off. I understand that the gravitational field is collapsing around your Hedge Fund universe. Why are you not processing Redemption Request Dave. I think you and you merry band of Asshats are getting pounded right now!
That Hedge Fund thang is dead is Tango Uniform...
Hedge Funds Concede Oversight Inevitability in Wake of Madoff
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=avJ43XHySeVs&refer=home
“This is an Enron moment for hedge funds,” said Peter Rup, chief investment officer at New York-based hedge fund Orion Capital Management LLC, with $400 million in assets under management. “Regulation would be welcome, primarily from a trust standpoint.”
I don't know if you Asshats got a handle on the Madoff meltdown. There were Charities and Businesses that imploded on the news that Madoff was a fraud. These places are "out of business" and those jobs will never be replaced.
Now Dave now that the CONfendance has been sucked out of the markets (No one trust Hedge Funds any more). How are you going to keep fueling the Mutant Asset Bubble? The MAB has implode and all asset classes are getting put to sleep. Come on Dave, come up with a good answer and no Ad- Homeim attacks, just the reasons why...
The What (2009 is going to hurt real bad)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 11:44 AM
Any ideas for New Years? I am hoping to find a nice prix-fixe in Fort G, Clinton/Cobble/Boerum Hill, Carroll G, or Park Slope local - that could spill over into drinks at a bar nearby.
Posted by: FortGfemme at December 22, 2008 11:45 AM
Thanks CH. By the 31st I may be at the welfare office instead of lurking around the Brownstoner site. Hopefully for you I won't see you there :)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at December 22, 2008 11:47 AM
How about that new place down near Frankie's that opened just before Thanksgiving? There are a few bars nearby to hop over to afterwards. Does anyone remember the name?
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 11:48 AM
It is so sad what we turned our society into in this country. For the first time it seems that Americans are doing things right, for the first time in forever as a whole American households went down in personal debt, we are importing less disposable plastic items from overseas, we are actually keeping cars more more than two years. All these things should strengthen a country instead of sending it into a downward spiral.
What: I agree it would be a shame to see those areas of Fulton and Vanderbilt stay vacant because of out of control rents.
Posted by: FGCHill at December 22, 2008 11:49 AM
"What, there is an empty storefront on the corner of Court at Baltic. The landlord forced the tenants out by raising the rent by a huge amount - last March, I believe. The storefront has been empty ever since. And I'm glad. The idiot pushed out a wonderful family business - Trusting Drycleaners - Mr. & Mrs. Oh. And now it's sits empty and I'm sure it will continue to sit empty for sometime, when it could have had a nice business paying what I'm sure this landlord would be thrilled to be getting now."
Ding ding ding!!! I have a ton of stories about Asshats landlords having empty store fronts! One Asshat I told to lower the rent said "You don't know what you're talking about". That was over a year ago! Dumbasses don't realize that Money=Time. You can't get back time and you damn sure cant get back money you let walk away!
Cobblehiller we are living in the last days of the Mutant Asset Bubble and 2009 will wake up alot of dummies to what is going on..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 11:49 AM
Misinformed again What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 11:50 AM
Well, I won't be on the welfare line (yet!), but I'm applying for unemployment January 2nd. And hoping that I'll find something quickly. Even if I have to patch together a couple odd jobs.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 11:53 AM
"cobblehiller, hopefully some wannabe fashionista will buy that empty store and sell and display her three rags, eh i mean coutoure dresses. who cares how high the rent is daddy down in atlanta is rich and will pay the lease for her to start her budding career as the next betsy johnson. barf"
Nope Rob! Daddy got his face ripped of messing with Madoff (Oh a rhyme).
"What: I agree it would be a shame to see those areas of Fulton and Vanderbilt stay vacant because of out of control rents. "
Yep but, you cannot fight Greed and Delusion! I know some moron that had the store fronts vacant for almost 2 years because they was waiting for Atlantic Yards to be built!
2009 is going to be very very painful...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 11:53 AM
Snappy and Cobble...I wish you the best of luck. When one door closes another opens.
I'm self employed and I lost a huge project (they lost the financing) that would have carried me through 2009. Let's see what the new year brings.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 12:02 PM
hey what, enough with the threats, eh?
Lemme ask: Are you alone on the holidays (again)? If so, that's no reason to threaten anyone.
And give it a rest with the cut and paste from your google alerts!
Posted by: Fjorder at December 22, 2008 12:03 PM
Anyone notice the wind gusts at around 1:30am? I seriously thought the windows were going to blow in. I've never heard wind like that before.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 12:05 PM
"Snappy and Cobble...I wish you the best of luck. When one door closes another opens."
Thanks BRG, I'm feeling ok about it right now, I feel reasonably optimistic - or maybe I'm just in a state of DENIAL!
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 12:09 PM
cobblehiller:
is it on Court Street? Or a side street near Frankie's?
there are some good bars near there.
Posted by: FortGfemme at December 22, 2008 12:10 PM
"Anyone notice the wind gusts at around 1:30am? I seriously thought the windows were going to blow in. I've never heard wind like that before."
Yeah, and everytime YOU (Biff) post, we notice the hot air blowing from your direction.
I was up working and thought the same re: windows. Seriously, it was very Spooky. The worst was when the tornado ripped through Bay Ridge last year. The noise from that was something I'd never heard before.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 12:10 PM
"Anyone notice the wind gusts at around 1:30am? "
Oddly, yes, I'm not usually awake at that hour, but last night I was up reading. It was pretty freakish.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 12:11 PM
cobblehiller:
is it on Court Street? Or a side street near Frankie's?
there are some good bars near there.
Ah, sorry FGF, it's called Buttermilk something - Channel? I dunno. It's on Court Street. Look in the November archive here, I think it opened just before Thanksgiving - and I bet they're doing something for xmas.
There are a dozen bars within 6 - 10 blocks.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 12:13 PM
Did a house fall on you BRG???
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 12:13 PM
Oh wait - here it is - from Brownstoner November Archive:
Now Open: Buttermilk Channel
524 Court Street, Carroll Gardens; (718) 852-8490
"Ryan Angulo, who was chef de cuisine at The Stanton Social, is Buttermilk Channel’s executive chef. He makes his own pickles, cures his own bacon, and has otherwise devised a casual menu featuring things like chicken and waffles and duck meat loaf (take that, duck meatballs)," says Hugh Merwin for Gothamist.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 12:15 PM
cobblehiller, I was asleep but it woke me up. I thought I was going to have to scramble to find some plywood and quickly board up the windows like they do in Florida every hurricane season (or so it seems). Then I realized I might need LPC approval to do that and turned over and went back to sleep.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 12:15 PM
"hey what, enough with the threats, eh?
Lemme ask: Are you alone on the holidays (again)? If so, that's no reason to threaten anyone."
Who did I threaten? See here we go again. Stay out of this fight and mind your business! This is between Dave and Myself!
Hey Dave ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MMUUUUHHHAAHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
The What ( But.. But.. Dave told me the returns was around 17%)
Someday this hedge fund is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 12:20 PM
Thanks BRG. By any chance do you have a job opening? I type fast and I can cook a mean dinner - grilled salmon with oven roasted garlic and lemon, sauteed spinach and brown basmati rice :)
(by the way fresh atlantic salmon is going for close to $16/lb YIKES. Fairway can blow it out their ditty-bag. I may have to fight my cat for the cans of tuna the next time i get a hankering for fish!)
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at December 22, 2008 12:20 PM
"Did a house fall on you BRG???"
No, I was able to fly away on my broom. I'm heading north and then northeast to expose my wrath on a few immoral beings who spew malarkey about me.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 12:20 PM
There are loose cable wires hanging from the building next door to mine. With last night's wind they kept swinging over and banging against my bedroom window. I kept waiting to see the silhouette of Alfred Hitchcock appear and maybe Norman Bates, too!
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at December 22, 2008 12:24 PM
The one retail item that might actually sell out this holiday season...Model 271 brogues:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/22/shoe.thrower.turkey/index.html
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 12:27 PM
Birth announcement:
Anna Claire Wasder born December 19th, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Born here in Brooklyn (LICH) weighing 6 lbs 14 oz. Everyone is happy and healthy and home.
Posted by: wasder at December 22, 2008 12:33 PM
What...see IronBalls rant in the Forum. Let me know if you have $1MM hanging around to invest in our fynds. Otherwise shut the fuck up and crawl back into your hole.
And, I'm not afraid of your baseball bat. Take it back to your sandlot and play with the kiddies.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 12:35 PM
"Birth announcement:
Anna Claire Wasder born December 19th, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Born here in Brooklyn (LICH) weighing 6 lbs 14 oz. Everyone is happy and healthy and home."
HOO-RAY! Welcome BABY WASDER! Congratulations Mr. W!
(and she was born in Cobble Hill - I'm tickled!)
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 12:37 PM
Yippy...call me Auntie BRG!!
Congrat's Waster!!
Many blessings for you and your family. JOY!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 12:37 PM
Congrats wasder.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 12:39 PM
aarrgghh!!
I didn't mean 'waster'.
Congrat's WASDER!!!!!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 12:40 PM
Congrats wasder.
Make sure you get her a college fund!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 12:45 PM
Congratulations, Wasder! Hello Anna!
Posted by: mopar at December 22, 2008 12:45 PM
yeah cobblehiller. my wife wanted sushi after the birth and I was wishing i could have consulted with you about where to go. wandered through the snowstorm all the way to Smith street before I could find a sushi place that was open (the one on Atlantic and Clinton was not open yet). But we are doing great and my two year old hasn't attacked the baby yet so that's good.
Posted by: wasder at December 22, 2008 12:45 PM
college fund? I'll have to make it through the next couple of years with my work intact and then tackle the college fund. Good advice though What.
Thanks again everybody. Its great to get all of your congrats. You are all aunties and uncles.
Posted by: wasder at December 22, 2008 12:50 PM
"Let me know if you have $1MM hanging around to invest in our fynds. Otherwise shut the ferk up and crawl back into your hole.
And let me know if your clients have a million dollars left! You are done and the "Hedge Fund" model is broken. The Mutant Asset Bubble implosion has taken you Asshats to the woodshed!
MMMMUUUUUUHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
"And, I'm not afraid of your baseball bat. Take it back to your sandlot and play with the kiddies."
No Dave, I'm in the sandlot! Swinging and connecting on your face!
Hedge Fund Redemptions May Crash Q1 Markets
http://seekingalpha.com/article/111853-hedge-fund-redemptions-may-crash-q1-markets
When reading about the $50 billion Madoff hedge fund fraud, it hit me on the head: hedge fund redemptions at the end of this year are going to be absolutely huge, and that will mean a massive sell-off in global capital markets in the first quarter.
Yoo Hoo Dave answer the phone and process that Redemption Request!
ROTMMFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!
The What (But.. But.. Madoff was a safe Hedge Fund....)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 12:52 PM
Wasder;
Congratulations! Best of everyhting to you and your family.
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 12:52 PM
Congrats to ya Wasder from Uncle Snarky!
Posted by: SnarkSlope at December 22, 2008 12:53 PM
wasder, Mazel Tov once again. Really wonderful news. Our first official Brownstoner baby.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 12:54 PM
I'll take that as a "No" to the question as to whether or not you have enough money What.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 12:56 PM
Can you two (DIBS and What) give it a rest for a few. There's a baby in the thread.
Wait till it's her nap time, then the bats can swing.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 1:01 PM
wasder: That sounds pretty dicey!
For future reference - I do know of two good places near me. Court & Baltic - Cube, and the other, Osaka, is the next block up across from the CH movie theater.
Just hug your two year old a lot and she may not slug the baby!
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 1:01 PM
Pissed off investor:: RIInng Riing
Dave: Hello Asshat Hedge Fund LLC. How can I help you?
Pissed off investor: I would like to withdraw my money from your Hedge Fund.
Dave: I'm sorry there is a freeze on Redemption Request. You will have to call back 2nd Q 2009.
Pissed off investor: WHAT?????!!!! You told me this was safe and you only invested in safe securities!!!!
Dave: Yes but due to market conditions we have no more money left in the fund. We are waiting for a Bailout from the Obama Administration. You have to wait until then.
Pissed off investor: Sob off into sleep from being Assraped...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 1:04 PM
That was quite amusing What; and original too. Remeber, there's two sides to EVERY trade. Do you understand what that means??
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:06 PM
Congratulations to the Wasders!
May little Anna know only joy and love. May she be creative and imaginative, generous and sharing. May all of us see there is still goodness in the world because of the innocent laughter of a child. A perfect gift at this holiday season.
Congratulations!
Posted by: Montrose Morris at December 22, 2008 1:09 PM
Ah, new babies :) Congrats Wasder. What a nice X-mas present.
Posted by: InsertSnappyNameHere at December 22, 2008 1:11 PM
As Chris Rock says in his standup routine "You've got one job as a parent...Keep your daughter off of brownstoner.com"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:12 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself MM. Nicely done. And Dave I will keep her off Brownstoner, at least until she is of legal age.
And no need to stop arguing and grappling on Anna's behalf. We are cool. this is an open thread after all. Go at it. Just wanted to let you all know because I promised I would.
Posted by: wasder at December 22, 2008 1:23 PM
Well, since wasder's given his permission to continue the free-for-all, here's something while we're on the subject of telephone conversations:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12212008/news/regionalnews/manhattan/the_dead_ringer_145226.htm
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 1:26 PM
"That was quite amusing What; and original too. Remeber, there's two sides to EVERY trade. Do you understand what that means??"
Yep Dave I do. That means most of your trades went to Money Heaven, never to be seen again.
The shear reason you are going back and forth with me is saying you're hosed! Thanks for the confirmation and maybe you can move back to UES.
The What (Dave PWNED)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 1:26 PM
Chris Rock...funniest living stand up comedian!!
Not sure if this clip references 'Keep her off the pole'
But it's hysterical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_JlsvQIKBg&NR=1
Here's another regarding relationships:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6OaRcsfnY4&feature=rec-HM-r2
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 1:27 PM
brg i beg to differ. paula poundstone is the funniest stand up comedian, EVER.
*Rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 22, 2008 1:31 PM
I could always move back to the UES What...that's the luxury of having money. Shovel that driveway out in Lodi yet???
Apparently you do not know what the phrase means!!! I'm not surprised. Ignorance is showing and it ain't pretty.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:31 PM
"Commercial Loan Defaults May Triple as Rental Income Declines"
Hi everybody!!! That's right, rents are in free fall. They won't fall as much as prices because they weren't quite as retarded but there will be pain (well, not for us renters). You can start shopping now for future condo-gone-rentals at the Forte, Oro, Toren, etc. Think hard about re-signing that lease. Sometimes the recession is your friend.
***Bid half off peak comps (Bid quarter off peak rents)***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at December 22, 2008 1:32 PM
BHO...we have the What already for cut and paste. We don't need a me too with no creativity.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:34 PM
What happened to all the holiday cheer? Seems like everyone is in a grumpy mood again. It's one thing to see The What revert to his normal ways, but when even Sam - normally a voice of reason on these pages - is grumpy and wishing for a pox on folks, then something is up. Something in the egg nog?
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 1:34 PM
Speaking of cutting and pasting, my link got cut off (oh, behave). Need to splice it back together
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12212008/news/
regionalnews/manhattan/the_dead_ringer_145226.htm
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 1:39 PM
Yeah benson...don't know what got into sam!!! No mistletoe maybe!!!! Sparring with the What doesn't count as grumpy.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:39 PM
Biff...I heard that story about the dead guy's voicemail awhile back. Creepy.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:42 PM
"BHO...we have the What already for cut and paste. We don't need a me too with no creativity."
Understood, MIBS.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Posted by: Brownstones Half Off at December 22, 2008 1:48 PM
quote:
I could always move back to the UES What...that's the luxury of having money. Shovel that driveway out in Lodi yet???
you are a terrible person.
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 22, 2008 1:49 PM
"What happened to all the holiday cheer?"
It was vaporized in the implosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble! everyone's look at 2009! A new President, Companies going Bankrupt. People losing jobs, housing prices crashing and Global economic troubles!
The What (But... But.. they told me my money was safe..)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 1:49 PM
'Keep her off the pole'!
OMG, that is hilarious! I just saw it again recently!
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 1:53 PM
"It was vaporized in the implosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble! everyone's look at 2009! A new President, Companies going Bankrupt. People losing jobs, housing prices crashing and Global economic troubles!"
What, I thought you were an Obama supporter. I think his Presidency is one of the things to look forward to and be positive about.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 1:53 PM
No rob...I'm actually a pretty nice person with a little bit of money. I began accumulating it when I was a teenager shovelling snow from Asshat driveways as I'm instructing What to get at it now.
Feliz Navidad!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:53 PM
"I could always move back to the UES What...that's the luxury of having money. Shovel that driveway out in Lodi yet???"
But Asshat, I own that one family frame free and clear! And I have the kids do the driveway. I guess you can move back to the UES, it's a whole lot cheaper now (Madoff effect you know).
"you are a terrible person."
No just a person that told you the implosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble was coming. If that makes me a "terrible person" so be it.
Rob how did you get into this conversation?
The What (But.. But.. My key don't work anymore???!!!)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 1:55 PM
im always on the lookout for a nice person with a "lil" bit of money! ha
*rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at December 22, 2008 1:55 PM
awww - congrats wasder
what a beautiful present!!!!
Posted by: gemini10 at December 22, 2008 1:56 PM
What....you can't even sort out which posts are directed at you and which aren't. Sad, very sad.
rob....we're ALL looking for nice people with more money than we have!!!! LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 1:58 PM
random question...
we checked out the open house at 587 washington avenue(the 4 story brick condo) - have to say, was impressed.
the prices range frm 695K(duplex with garage) to $525K for a 2 bedroom without outdoor space...
anyway - thoughts on making an offer that is less than asking price at these new developments?
are they willing to accept offers coming in at 10% less than asking?
of course we would have to sell the house first.... but that's another story....
Posted by: gemini10 at December 22, 2008 1:58 PM
"What, I thought you were an Obama supporter. I think his Presidency is one of the things to look forward to and be positive about."
Yep Biff but Obama will have to follow the playbook. Keep printing money and hope the Mutant Asset Bubble does not explode on his watch (With is a hard thing to do now). I wonder when everything goes south how many "Obama Supporters' will be there for him, time will tell. My view on 2009 is not good and many people will see that we was in a Depression all along...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 1:59 PM
Biff...it's more like 30% - 1%.
Do you want to add a letter to any of your posts today....or should we take them for what they are.
If that's the case, Have a Happy Holiday and a Joyous New Year.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 2:00 PM
gemini10...if you really like it make the offer...start at 15% or more below ask and include in the offer that it is contingent upon sale of your place. That wouldn't fly a year ago; in fact they'd just laugh...but this isn't a year ago. make sure you have a lawyer in the case that your offer is actually accepted. No one is banging down their door to make a better offer I suspect.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 2:06 PM
re-write
Biff...it's more like 30% - 1%.
Do you want to add a letter to any of your posts today....or should we take them for what they are.
I'm getting the....hint, hint!
Have a Happy Holiday and a Joyous New Year, anyway.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 2:07 PM
What, I would think most people understand what Obama's inheriting and don't expect him to be able to turn things around overnight (in fact, if he can do it within one term I think that will be a major accomplishment). I agree 2009 will be extremely tough, but I do feel better facing the future with Obama/Biden leading than if McCain/Palin were taking the reigns.
BRG, it's all totally good. How could I blame you for continually copying my hilarious and insightful posts? :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 2:10 PM
Dibs - as always, thank you!!!
solid advice and I agree they might just bite at a 15-20% lower offer
just wondering how that nabe is over there... seems a bit light on cafes,grocery stores,restaurants... We have a car so we can always drive over to fairway etc - but if you want the paper, bagel and coffee - wondering where to go in walking distance?!?
anyone live on underhill/washington around atlantic/pacific??
Posted by: gemini10 at December 22, 2008 2:14 PM
"What, I would think most people understand what Obama's inheriting and don't expect him to be able to turn things around overnight (in fact, if he can do it within one term I think that will be a major accomplishment)."
Biff I disagree with you. When the implosion MAB starts gearing up the sheeple are going to forget who started this mess and beg Obama to do "Something" and when that "Something" doesn't pan out, they will turn on him so fast it will make your head spin! I think we give Americans too much credit to make intelligent decisions and choices but the whole time they was marching in the footsteps of Greed and delusion.
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 2:23 PM
"Dibs - as always, thank you!!!
solid advice and I agree they might just bite at a 15-20% lower offer"
Gemini before you glad handle Dave ask yourself some questions. Do you want to buy something in this economic climate? If they accept 15% off now, would the price be lower in a few months? How is my finances? Will I get stuck if I can sell in a few years?
Just chill out and wait. You will be rewarded...
The What (But... But... they told me it was worth 2.7 Million....)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 2:28 PM
"Biff I disagree with you. When the implosion MAB starts gearing up the sheeple are going to forget who started this mess and beg Obama to do "Something" and when that "Something" doesn't pan out, they will turn on him so fast it will make your head spin!"
What, Bush got elected a second time despite narrowly beating (or, as many people think, losing to) Gore in 2000 and after the Iraq war was exposed for the invasion it really was. In fact, many are still blaming Clinton for our current woes. Point being, people didn't seem to turn on him until well into his second term, so I'm not sure why you think supporters will abandon Obama so quickly.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 2:35 PM
What -I get what you are saying. I certainly don't want a property that I can't sell in 5 years...
when you say "wait you will be rewarded" - what do you mean?
Posted by: gemini10 at December 22, 2008 2:39 PM
What=Miss Muffett
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at December 22, 2008 2:41 PM
"What, Bush got elected a second time despite narrowly beating (or, as many people think, losing to) Gore in 2000 and after the Iraq war was exposed for the invasion it really was."
That was Coup d'état and 911 and the Mutant Asset Bubble! American Biff have been asleep for the last 8 years and when the wake up to a depression. they want someone to blame!
Most people will not accept personal responsibility for their actions, it''s always someone else's fault.
"In fact, many are still blaming Clinton for our current woes. Point being, people didn't seem to turn on him until well into his second term, so I'm not sure why you think supporters will abandon Obama so quickly."
Biff now you understand the gravity of this situation! We America is headed into the abyss. Our manufacturing jobs are gone! All we do is sell pieces of paper to one other and call that crap "investing"! America is in some serious trouble and when these economic conditions happens, that's when the Goose Stepping and The Swastika come out, watch and see...
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 2:47 PM
Biff;
Ask Bush I if folks will wait until the second term. Bush I was riding a 92% approval rating in 1991, due to the success of the first gulf war. One year later, add in a lousy economy, and he was shown the door.
We've been through a period where folks gave both Clinton and Bush II a second shot. During the 70's, however, one term presidents were the norm (Johnson, Nixon (sort of), Ford and Carter). If this economy is truly as bad as the papers are making it out to be, I'm not sure that folks will give Obama that much time.
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 2:47 PM
"when you say "wait you will be rewarded" - what do you mean?"
Just wait.....
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 2:48 PM
What = Polemecist
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 2:49 PM
"Ask Bush I if folks will wait until the second term. Bush I was riding a 92% approval rating in 1991, due to the success of the first gulf war. One year later, add in a lousy economy, and he was shown the door."
Ding Ding Ding Ding!!! Beautiful illustration Benson!!!!!!!!!! We don't agree on much but you hit that one out of the park!!!!!!!!!
I remember that time Bush 1 went down in flames so damn fast!! In one year he was vaporized!!
"We've been through a period where folks gave both Clinton and Bush II a second shot. During the 70's, however, one term presidents were the norm (Johnson, Nixon (sort of), Ford and Carter). If this economy is truly as bad as the papers are making it out to be, I'm not sure that folks will give Obama that much time."
Most of the people on this board never experienced New York in a bad economic climate! When the start talking about cutting back on police and Fireman watch out!
The What( But... But.. They told me this neighborhood was safe..)
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 2:53 PM
Congrats, Wasder!
Posted by: brownstoner at December 22, 2008 2:59 PM
What, serious question: if you were Obama, what would you try to do in 2009?
benson, good points. It's true that many have been measuring the success of the administrations based on their own personal bottom lines, regardless of the degree to which the acting presidents had anything to do with it. Perhaps I am overestimating the leeway Obama will be given in the short term.
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 3:01 PM
What;
IMHO, you are mixing up apples and oranges. The New York of the 70's was due to an unfortunate combination of factors acting in concert against NYC and all urban areas, such as: a) the poor state of racial relations at that time; b) the change in large-scale manufacturing economics that made cities no longer suitable for such activity; c) the availability of cheap, undeveloped land in the suburbs; d) low prices for gas, making those suburbs reachable by car and e) a city government that was completely tone-deaf to the needs of businesses.
Certainly a poor national economy was no help to NY in the 70's, but it was low on the list of the factors that led to its decline. The NYC of today is completely different, and in my opinion,much better positioned to withstand a downturn. New York used to be a city or renters. It is now becoming a city of owners composed of a highly-educated workforce, who are more committed to urban living. Finally, we have a mayor who is much more heedful of what is necessary to manintain NY's business leadership.
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 3:06 PM
Speaking of that 70s 'feeling' - has anyone been in Penn Station around 11:30 or Midnight recently. WOW - what a freak show!
I haven't seen that many crackheads, drunk jerks, dumb tourists, and plain old thieves scoping out their next 'pick'.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 3:16 PM
Rob posted a forum post about Dyker Heights Lights. I'm not going to re-hash it here, but I do want to mention:
If you haven't gone down 5th Avenue in Manhattan yet....Do it! What are you waiting for, the Easter parade?
Of couse do this in the evening.
Start at the Time Warner building on 59th Street and Columbus Circle. Go inside and look at the stars dance to music. Go upstairs and overlook the atrium with the reflection of the stars on the glass and Columbus Cirle in the background.
Walk east on 59th Street to 5th Avenue. Start heading south on 5th Avenue.
Bergoff's (58th St) windows - to die for, they always outdo themselves....the north one with the edible white delicacies...YUMMY!!
Head south crossing the Avenue back and forth to look at all the windows and buildings. Cartier LV, Tiffany, etc, etc. Head all the way down to Rock Center and look at the tree (make sure you get there by midnight, they turn off the lights, then). Make sure you stay and watch the snowflakes on Sak's building.
If you're a walker head down to Lord and Taylor on 39th Street and 5th Ave - nice windows also.
or Bloomies on 59th & Lex.
Bundle up...and get out there and enjoy the holidays!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 3:38 PM
"the north one with the edible white delicacies...YUMMY!!"
Truffles?
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 3:43 PM
Congratulations Wasder! Wishing you and your family every happiness. Love, Auntie Two Toilets
Posted by: I_haz_TWO_toilets at December 22, 2008 3:54 PM
BRG;
Do you really think that folks need to be informed about 5th Ave and Rockefeller Center at Christmas time? Are there actually folks out there who don't know this?
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 4:03 PM
Some pics of Bergdof's Windows
#6 - can you see white chocolate truffles?
http://getglamorous.blogspot.com/2008/12/bergdorf-goodman-christmas-windows.html
A couple of years ago (2006?), they did a window of chocolate decadance...that was the best display. If anybody can find pics...please provide a link.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 4:07 PM
"IMHO, you are mixing up apples and oranges. The New York of the 70's was due to an unfortunate combination of factors acting in concert against NYC and all urban areas, such as: a) the poor state of racial relations at that time; b) the change in large-scale manufacturing economics that made cities no longer suitable for such activity; c) the availability of cheap, undeveloped land in the suburbs; d) low prices for gas, making those suburbs reachable by car and e) a city government that was completely tone-deaf to the needs of businesses."
Eh, Benson. I think those conditions are back.
a) the poor state of racial relations at that time;
What until everyone finds out that Obama is black. Just like in Blazing Saddles!
b) the change in large-scale manufacturing economics that made cities no longer suitable for such activity;
Those jobs are in other countries not and going to "job heaven" now. All we do is sell "investments' to each other. We produce nothing Benson.
c) the availability of cheap, undeveloped land in the suburbs;
There is PLENTY cheap land in the burbs now! With the implosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble developer are walking away from land now!
d) low prices for gas, making those suburbs reachable by car
Eh Benson, do you own a car? Gas is very cheap right now! I haven't seen these prices in 9 years. 189 for regular and yes the Asshats are going back to the burbs because crime will spike in the cities!
e) a city government that was completely tone-deaf to the needs of businesses."
Mayor Bloomberg anyone...
Yep Benson the good old days of the 70's are back! All we need is some polyester slacks and we are good!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 4:07 PM
BRG - love the 5th avenue xmas decorations, hate the stumbling tourists looking up and stopping short as I rush to my job every morning or try to catch the horrid F at night....
Posted by: gemini10 at December 22, 2008 4:13 PM
What, I'm telling you, it's already started! I was in Penn Sta. Saturday night just before midnight, and it was just like the old days! Not a cop in sight, and the drugged out lunatics were coming OFF the train from NJ to go clubbing and the FREAKS were in the hallways on our way out to the street. It took me a little while to recognize the 'feeling' it had been souch a long time - of course then I was younger and braver/stupider = your pick, this time I was incredibly aware of the fact that I am now an effing middle-aged white lady! CRAP! When did THAT happen?
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 4:16 PM
cobblehiller, everyone complained a few years ago about the Disneyfication of Times Square and longed for the olden days when it had it's distinct edge. Now we're horrified at the cast of characters at Penn Station on a Saturday night. By the way, what exactly WERE you doing at Penn Station at midnight...handing out cookies to the new arrivals? :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 4:20 PM
Yes, Benson, I think people need reminding. Some folks forget to see it.
I usually go 4-5x during the season. So far I've only gone once this year. I'm going again tomorrow night.
DO NOT GO XMAS EVE...it's a zoo!!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 4:20 PM
"By the way, what exactly WERE you doing at Penn Station at midnight"
BH and I were coming back from a party in NJ.
And I'm telling you the TON of kids that got on the train in Secaucus heading INTO the city were all pumped up and the vibe on that train and in Penn Sta. was not cool. It felt like it go bad in a heartbeat...
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 4:26 PM
It felt like it could go bad in a heartbeat... - sorry.
Posted by: cobblehiller at December 22, 2008 4:28 PM
If you're living in Secaucus, something has already gone bad!
Posted by: Biff Champion at December 22, 2008 4:30 PM
What;
You really want to compare Mike Bloomberg to Mayor Lindsay? Lindsay never ran a business in his life and was completely clueless. Nonsense.
The suburbs are cheap? Really? Do you have any friends who live in the better suburbs of NJ and LI? Do you know what they pay in property tax? Thirty years ago, NJ used to have ZERO income tax and ZERO sales tax. Now their taxes are higher than NYC (NJ has a lower top marginal rate, but does not allow a deduction for mortgage interest, which is a big deal).
The US still is the world's largest manufacturer. I have spent my entire career in the industrial sector, and spend my days visiting factories. We have outsourced lower-level manufacturing, and kept the higher-value-added stuff here. Moreover, the big money today is not in manufacturing,it is in more conceptual areas that require a higher IP. Where would you rather work these days: Google (or Microsoft, or Intel, or Cisco, or Yahoo) or a textile factory? What would you propose: that we all return to stting behind a sewing machine on 35th St and crank out sweaters?
Finally, what seems to bother you most is that racial relations HAVE improved substantially in the past couple of decades. A site like brownstoner would have been unthinkable in the NYC of the 70's, where one was not even allowed to post a "For sale" sign in front of their house, lest the "wrong" kind of people find out about it. Why does it un-nerve you that the composition of your neighborhood is changing? Hmmmmm?
Posted by: benson at December 22, 2008 4:32 PM
Wasder,
My wholehearted congratulations to you and you family! What a great gift for the holidays!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at December 22, 2008 4:36 PM
"What a great gift for the holidays!"
Being born close to the holidays, Anna will eventually get jipped out of either a Hanukkah or Christmas present. She'll be bitter that her parents conceived her in March....probably on the Ides of March!
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 4:44 PM
^^^ I jest of course.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 22, 2008 4:44 PM
"The suburbs are cheap? Really? Do you have any friends who live in the better suburbs of NJ and LI? Do you know what they pay in property tax?"
Better schools Benson! That''s what you pay for!
"Now their taxes are higher than NYC (NJ has a lower top marginal rate, but does not allow a deduction for mortgage interest, which is a big deal)."
But in Lodi crime is low (when I leave LMMFAO)!
"The US still is the world's largest manufacturer."
Of counterfeit money instruments! I think the tittle goes to China
"We have outsourced lower-level manufacturing, and kept the higher-value-added stuff here."
Oh I see, we could not outsourced Wall Street jobs but kill the middle class the backbone of the economy.
"Moreover, the big money today is not in manufacturing,it is in more conceptual areas that require a higher IP. Where would you rather work these days: Google (or Microsoft, or Intel, or Cisco, or Yahoo) or a textile factory? What would you propose: that we all return to stting behind a sewing machine on 35th St and crank out sweaters?"
See this is where it get retarded Benson. A job is a job no matter what it is. You see Americans have gotten Fat, Lazy and stupid over the last 20 years and statements like this reenforces the delusion of the MAB. Yeah let some poor worker from a third world country make my stuff while I sit on my fat lazy ass and sell "Paper" to Asshats like myself!
"Finally, what seems to bother you most is that racial relations HAVE improved substantially in the past couple of decades."
Really?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where Benson Show me where this has happen. This place is a breeding ground to Covert Race/Class warfare!
A site like brownstoner would have been unthinkable in the NYC of the 70's, where one was not even allowed to post a "For sale" sign in front of their house, lest the "wrong" kind of people find out about it. Why does it un-nerve you that the composition of your neighborhood is changing? Hmmmmm?
No internet so I cannot know what would've worked in the 70's. Plus if Asshat Hill was such a wonderful place? Why people did not move here in the 90's when Giuliani was mayor???
Last but not lease! I want to see the Asshats stay when it turns bad! Cobblehiller was talking from her experience as a New Yorker, not as some scared White Woman. Cobblehiller was born and raised here and know what's going on!
I want to see how the "Brotherhood" thang works out..
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 4:57 PM
"Really?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where Benson Show me where this has happen. This place is a breeding ground to Covert Race/Class warfare!"
What, I agree with a lot of what you say and in fact I wonder what exactly this stimulus program will accomplish when there are no factories to stimulate, at least not around here, but about race relations... back in the day I grew up in West Harlem and there were no Asshats in Harlem, Fort Greene, Bed Stuy, Crown Heights, etc. The fact that the Asshats live in these places now, fairly unmolested, shows that indeed race relations have improved.
I remember living with a (Black) roommate in Willoughby Walk in 1972 and one night the G train to Clinton-Washington wasn't cutting at at 4AM, so I ventured up onto Fulton and the hue and cry of get whitey was truly a funny thing (in retrospect). So I gotta agree w Benson here. Now you can walk up Fulton any time you want.
Posted by: denton at December 22, 2008 5:57 PM
Well lookie here! All of the things I wrote today only one person stepped up to the plate. That's GOD damn sad. This whole thing is imploding right in front of you eyes but don't worry. I will be around to remind you everyday of your stupidity...
The What (Where are you??!!)
Someday this war is gonna end..
BTW Before I go, suck some of this down!
Africa Israel Plans More Asset Sales to Repay Debt, Chief Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8gL.RZEhfTg&refer=home
Dec. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Africa Israel Investments Ltd., the real estate holding company that’s selling a stake in New York’s historic Clock Tower, is planning more asset disposals to help repay debt, Chief Executive Officer Izzy Cohen said.
Yeah, that Clock Tower!
"Africa Israel will suspend all projects that aren’t yet under construction and eliminate jobs in 2009, Cohen said in an interview at the company’s headquarters in Yehud, Israel. It will proceed with three out of 30 planned developments in Russia for next year and 12 of 40 planned in Eastern Europe, he added."
Hey Asshats read this paragraph over and over again! This is going on AROUND THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!! That means New York retards!!
Posted by: Return of The What at December 22, 2008 8:10 PM
two things: Late to the party, as always.
1. Hooray for baby Wasder! Welcome to the world Anna. Our very first Brownstoner baby.
2. Wasder - I'm in serious newborn withdrawal, if you ever need a sitter in a pinch, I'm very reliable, mom of two relatively well adjusted little boys, and am always in need of my baby fix! Especially a little girl. Awwwww.
3. BRG, the "keep your daughter from the pole" routine is probably one of my all time favorites. That and the "pump fat" line, with the fat, sexy black woman (as compared to constantly whining, creepily crazed about their bodies, skinny white women I presume). I nearly died.
Posted by: Nokilissa at December 23, 2008 12:11 AM
Noki...this one is for you!
Viewer discretion...Again with Chris Rock Bawdy language. I should have stated that with the other links...but come on, it's Chris Rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F43JU0N5DM
'Baking bread in her shoe'
Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 23, 2008 8:36 AM
Oh my God!!!! That's it! You found the clip that reduces all of Chris Rock into crystalized perfection in a minute and a half! (the anklet hangin' on for dear life... Aaaaaa!)
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