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December 8, 2008

Condos of the Day: 502 1st Street

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We're not usually fans of these brownstone condo conversions, but this one at 502 1st Street strikes us as better than most (though it's no 24 Remsen!). The building has been divided up into four units ranging in price from $699,660 for a 828-square-foot two-bedroom to $1,140,525 for a 1,233-square-foot two bedroom. The asking prices of all four units tally to $3,359,461, a good deal more than the $1,500,000 the developer paid for it; then again, he's had to renovate and carry the building for four years so there's probably not a ton of profit left, even if he manages to nail these prices. Warren Lewis hosted the first open house yesterday. Anyone go?
502 1st Street [Warren Lewis] GMAP P*Shark




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Gorgeous on the outside, Bland on the inside.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at December 8, 2008 12:57 PM

BRG- Good point, but they only look bland because they're empty. Obviously one school of thought is for it to be empty for potential buyers could picture a setup for themselves. Or as I think, the seller should hire someone to furnish the listing. it'd look great that way.

Wonder if those are working fireplaces? I doubt it as that is not mentioned in listings.

Posted by: Fjorder at December 8, 2008 1:06 PM

I'm sorry but for $1MM+, ! do not want a bathroom that is next to the kitchen and essentially in the living room! This may have received some interest in fall 07 but not now.

Posted by: BH76 at December 8, 2008 1:07 PM

1.1 million for one quarter of a house?
You could buy a nice unit in a real apartment building for that. Cut up brownstones used to be for folks who couldn't afford to live elsewhere.
I can't imagine that this is a good investment.


Posted by: Inigo at December 8, 2008 1:10 PM

No f'ing chance. 1.1 mil for a 2 bedroom? hahaha, guy been living in a vacuum?

Posted by: cornerbodega at December 8, 2008 1:23 PM

What a shame. This was probably a nice house once. Now it is all stripped walls, bare brick, and ugly fixtures.

Someone should offer 1.8 million for the whole house, over time they can restore the finishes and return it to an elegant home.


Posted by: sam at December 8, 2008 1:25 PM

They didn't even have the class to put in the right round-headed windows.
This is a real sleaze-job, IMO.

Posted by: sam at December 8, 2008 1:56 PM

Ugh - no character. Crazy to ask this much for a 2 BR. But then, this is the same realtor that is now trying to sell 14th St house for 2.150Mil after it just sold for 1.995 (having gone into contract pre-crisis). Clearly, they are still in a bubble.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at December 8, 2008 2:27 PM

What do you think the deal is on that 14th St. house, Ms. M? Did the $1.995 deal fall thru?

Posted by: ssloper at December 8, 2008 3:49 PM

The only thing I can think of is that the buyer of 14th Street bit off more than they could chew - that is, they went into contract pre-crisis, flipped out when things started to tank, but did not want to lose their 200K deposit so decided to gamble. So, they are probably praying that they lose less by turning around and re-selling it immediately than they would have by backing out of the deal. However, it's hard to see how they won't lose some significantmoney. The closing costs alone when they purchased the house must have been around 50K, and the brokers commission were they to sell at 2mil would be about 100K. Since they paid 1,995,000, and they are selling for 2,150,000 that is probably the optimistic ask to recoup costs. It certainly can't be a flip since there is pretty much no profit factored in. Even if they sold for the same price they purchased for, they will probably lose at least 50K. Given the deterioration of the market since they went into contract, they likely will lose a lot more than that.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at December 8, 2008 4:04 PM

For Sale on 1st Street:

505 1st
555 1st
556 1st
566 1st
318 1st
356 1st
567 1st

And now these condos at 502 1st...

Posted by: bk14 at December 8, 2008 4:04 PM

Also, I forgot:

491 1st is still on the market (Townsley & Gay listing)

Posted by: bk14 at December 8, 2008 4:07 PM

First Street is a primo street. If things are not selling there, realtors should get a clue about the rest of the Boro.

Posted by: sam at December 8, 2008 5:19 PM

MM you really know your stuff! I'm impressed. I'm also continually floored by how these brokers/seller can ask these prices. WL is as bad as Corcoran, without the inventory. So, what is going on on First Street?

Posted by: househunt at December 8, 2008 8:21 PM

I don't hate the duplex, but this is a high ask even by 2006-07 standards. That 2nd br is tiny. Feels like 875-900k might be fairer, because that's a great location, and you do get a yard. I'd say a 15-20% chop is in order.

Posted by: Bolder at December 8, 2008 9:08 PM

I suspect 1st Street is a harbinger of what's to come. Inventory of late has been very slim, but inevitably starts to grow in a housing slump, as sellers cling to old prices, and buyers refuse to give in. Eventually, sellers readjust their expectations, and start cutting prices to get things moving again. We will probably see this start to happen in 2009, and continuing in 2010. During the last NYC downturn, prices peaked in 1988, turned in 1989, then took til 1993 to bottom out, then took many more years to crawl back to the highs of the peak. This is why serious sellers will just cut out the wait and sell at a more realistic price.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at December 8, 2008 9:28 PM

I just realized, in discussing 14th St, I made a math mistake (rushing while posting from work!). If the sellers, who closed at 1.995 just a few weeks ago (!), sold the house for the same price they paid, they would lose around 150K (closing costs when they purchased, plus broker's fee to sell). If they sell at 1.950, they will wind up losing about 200K, or roughly the same as they would have lost had they backed out of deal after they went into contract (which was probably just before financial meltdown hit). Problem is, they will likely have to sell for even less. They probably priced as high as they did, 2.150mil, to factor in the inevitable discount off of ask that sellers expect in this climate. Problem is, any serious buyer now is likely to do their homework, see that the house closed weeks ago for 1.995, do the math to figure out when it went into contract, and expect a significant discount off of the price from this summer. These people must really be in a bad position to be selling again so soon!

Posted by: Miss Muffett at December 8, 2008 10:40 PM


Real Estate prices will languish for decades.

Wall Street is in the dog house and NYC residential asking prices have barely budged.

Our Federal government is utterly delusional and in the pocket of big business.

All the bailout money will go to the rich and connected -- Russian style.

Car Czar? Our politicians are out of their minds getting involved in running failed businesses that lost years ago to the Japanese and Germans. The unions must be extorting the politicians -- there's no other rational explanation.

Obama doesn't have the balls to quit smoking and he doesn't have the brains to let the auto industry fail.

Bush and Obama are both brainless puppets. America, the bastion of free market capitalism as we knew it, is heading for the poor house.

Posted by: IronBalls at December 8, 2008 11:26 PM

Who is going to pay $795,000 for an apartment with only one bathroom?

Posted by: zuleika at December 8, 2008 11:56 PM

plenty of people. our downstairs neighbor did just a few months ago.

Posted by: wishinone at December 9, 2008 12:20 AM

Wishinone - key words: "a few months ago."

Posted by: Miss Muffett at December 9, 2008 12:35 AM

i can think of at least 2 3 bedroom apartments I've been to in park slope recently (last couple weeks) that are priced at $1 million and they both have one bathroom. I just don't think everyone is that concerned about having one bathroom. Personally, I think it's nice to have 2 bathrooms, but not a necessity. I care more about other things. But hey, to each their own.

Posted by: wishinone at December 9, 2008 7:37 AM

I suspect wishinone is all wet! People who can afford to buy a $700 thousand or $1M apartment are not going to settle for one bathroom.

Show me the sales, wishinone!

Posted by: zuleika at December 14, 2008 1:01 AM

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