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November 14, 2008
LIRR Station All Dressed Up

Looks like it's finishing touches time for the LIRR station at Atlantic and Flatbush (the original, reports Gowanus Lounge, was razed in the 80s to make way for the 2004 Atlantic Center project now attached to this glass wall). The ongoing construction has made navigating the area on foot even more perilous than usual, though solutions to the pedestrian crossing quagmire are being considered. It's starting to look more like the rendering every day.
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Looks a lot nicer than I thought it would.
Posted by: 11217 at November 14, 2008 10:39 AM
SLOWEST PROJECT EVER. 6 years and counting -- for that?
Posted by: zinka at November 14, 2008 10:41 AM
yeah that's hideous. it looks like a beta fish fishbowl. nyc seriously SERIOUSLY needs to get it's priorities in order when it comes to these kinds of projects now. nix the stupid stadiums (tho i guess they are almost done), the dumb bike lanes, the mini parks in the middle of highways, trite crap like the waterfalls (i know that was supposedly privately funded but i have my doubts), etc. work on the things that actually MATTER. focus on the fluff when there's people not starving to death, losing their homes, and the cost of living shooting up 10x than what it was 2 years ago.
*NeNe*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at November 14, 2008 10:46 AM
Wow. It actually looks... nice. Pleasant even. Will it stil be a Dark Hole of Doom on the inside?
The pedestrian hazards at this intersection and the ones near it cannot be underestimated, though. Is there no thought about a bridge?
Posted by: Brooklyn Chicken at November 14, 2008 10:48 AM
Finally. What a mess for the last 10 years.
Posted by: DOW8000SP800 at November 14, 2008 10:57 AM
Chick', see the other thread about recent pedestrian improvements in this area.
Posted by: g man at November 14, 2008 11:08 AM
I saw it, g man. I only hope it works.
Posted by: Brooklyn Chicken at November 14, 2008 11:48 AM
I think the pyramids went up faster. This took so long I forgot what it was. I thought it was an addition to the mall.
Let's hope light is one of the interior components. That has to be the worst commuter station I've ever seen anywhere.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at November 14, 2008 12:15 PM
I love the way it looks. I liver nearby in Fort Greene and use this entrance to commute to the city. This are will get better and better. This is one are of Brooklyn that I can safely say will surely improve and property values will follow. This is Brooklyn's version of Lincoln Center.
Posted by: PropJoe at November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
The area around Lincoln Center has seen a 9% decline in prices.
Posted by: 11217 at November 14, 2008 1:14 PM
Well, I have to say, yes, this has taken a very long time to do. I think a lot of the staging/timing has had to do with the work on the LIRR areas downstairs. But still...if it takes this long to do an atrium/entrance goodness knows how long an arena will take to build.
And yes, the area has really been made more treacherous than ever by the amount of street and sidewalk this whole mess has taken over for years...especially bad recently.
I was very annoyed by the closing of the opening of Hanson there. I have many reasons for this, one of which was the high-handedness of it. Tish James had a press conference yesterday AM on this. The City came in, cut off Hanson, made it two-way, got little if no buy-in from the community and put little if no education or PR out there to alert us to the change. Suddenly the street became two-way and a mother with her child nearly got run over because she had no idea. It really wasn't obvious or clear. All this week, cars have been parking in the "wrong" direction on one side of the street because even drivers were cluing in on the change.
There was no signage announcing this, nothing. A very poor job rolling out a big change. Now, my other pet peeve is that this is a gift to developers. Plain and simple.
Plus, it will push traffic up Lafayette. We already have traffic at 50 mph up Lafayette (partly because of the way the lights are timed!) and the street is only allowed to trucks making local deliveries. Meanwhile, huge big-rigs and construction company flatbeds fly up Lafayette to avoid Fulton and Atlantic cutting a path across Brooklyn.
Many streets in the area are off limits to trucks altogether but are used by them constantly. If massive 18-wheelers and even larger were to fly through streets in Park Slope and Brooklyn Heights, I'm sure they might be more ruckus over it.
I did notice the other day a large big-rig coming down Ashland rounding the bend onto Hanson (a new route) to get to the mall. The mall has greatly increased big-rig congestion in the area. For the sake of Fort Greene, I do hope the trucks making deliveries to the mall avoid Lafayette and Fulton and, instead, take Ashland to Hanson.
Oh, one thing that is also funny and makes the two-way thing kind of stupid on Hanson: the top of Hanson where it hits Fulton is still one-way!
The area is very confusing because many streets are two-way for one or two blocks and then one-way for another block or two.
Hhhh...
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at November 14, 2008 1:17 PM
Like Lincoln Center????!!!
My goodness. I do assume that was tongue-in-cheek!
Ms. BG
Posted by: BrooklynGreene at November 14, 2008 1:26 PM
BAM is better than Lincoln Center.
Posted by: PropJoe at November 14, 2008 2:03 PM
"BAM is better than Lincoln Center."
Is there a most asinine quote of the day?
As someone who works very closely with both BAM and Lincoln Center, and I can assure that the only person who thinks this is true is you and the dude who sleeps on the stairs of the Harvey Theater.
You are so absurd, I can't even believe I just commented on this.
Posted by: 11217 at November 14, 2008 3:12 PM
what a hilarious way to hype up your neighborhood, to compare it to lincoln center. makes me want to move out.
Posted by: amt230 at November 14, 2008 4:53 PM
Better yet...comparing an article about the entrance to the Long Island railroad station to Lincoln Center...
This post had ZERO to do with BAM which is what makes PropJoe's comments even more highlarious.
Posted by: 11217 at November 14, 2008 4:58 PM
I agree with BrooklynGreene's assumption that "a lot of the staging/timing has had to do with the work on the LIRR areas downstairs," but not the second half, "if it takes this long to do an atrium/entrance goodness knows how long an arena will take to build." I think the LIRR, or its contractors, are doing the entrance, not Forest City Ratner, who plans on building an arena near-by.
I also agree with the accusations of "high-handedness" and "A very poor job rolling out a big change." Even if you think the changes are a good thing, you got to wonder about DOT's community relations skills.
Posted by: altervoce at November 14, 2008 6:57 PM
BrooklynGreene, what kind of notification do you expect? There's a big double yellow line down the middle of the street. If that doesn't tell you it's a two-way street, I don't know what will.
Regarding trucks, the only legal access to/from the mall is from Atlantic. Not from Hanson, not from Fort Greene Place, Lafayette or Ashland.
This isn't a gift to developers. It's a gift to pedestrians. Finally we can cross this major intersection without courting death.
Posted by: zinka at November 15, 2008 2:01 AM
very nice but we should all keep in mind that the entirety of atlantic center including this lil glass facade are merely a placeholder for something less fugly in 2050. in the same way that merotech has boosted high scale develpment in surrounding downtown bk, AY will do the same here.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at November 15, 2008 8:42 AM

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