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November 6, 2008

Closing Bell: Late Bloomers

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Hey, the Christmas decorations may already be up around the borough, but as far as mother nature is concerned, it's still summer. Hydrangeas, roses, and even this...this..this unnamed flower sported blooms on 8th Street in the Slope. Bonus points for those who can identify it.




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I just planted my bulbs in the garden after I got home early from jury duty today....narcissus, iris & muscari. I'm just hoping and praying that I get apples again next year from the tree that I moved last year. When I bought this house in early 2007 (the height of the MAB!!!) I was so amazed to see apples develop on the tree in the yard and grow into big golden delicious. Didn't get any this year because of the shock of the moving of the tree.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 4:05 PM

I'm not sure, but is it a type of Rose Hip?

Posted by: cobblehiller at November 6, 2008 4:24 PM

Hmm, Rosa Rugosa have more petals, usually (and thorns!). I am going to guess Rose of Sharon?

Posted by: mothra at November 6, 2008 4:37 PM

I think its in the hibiscus family. Any of you ever drink "jamaica" which is the Mexican name for the tea that you make from hibiscus flowers? I saw fields and fields of these plants down in southern Mexico when I was there last year. I make it and mix it with my ice tea. The dried flowers are readily available up here in most Mexican food stores and many health stores.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 4:40 PM

i don't think it's rose of sharon...the buds are different. it does look hibiscusy.

Posted by: new2hood at November 6, 2008 4:42 PM

Definitely not rosa rugosa or rose of sharon. I've got both of those.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 4:45 PM

I think its a Mandevilla which is a South American flowering vine.

Posted by: brooklynschool at November 6, 2008 4:50 PM

It looks to me like Iowa State Wild Rose

http://www.50states.com/flower/iowa.htm

Posted by: karo25 at November 6, 2008 4:52 PM

Rose of sharon is a hardy hibiscus. Jamaica is made from a non-hardy hibiscus. I still have tomatoes on my roof. No hard frost yet.

Posted by: ownhs at November 6, 2008 4:58 PM

I think brooklynschool is right.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 4:59 PM

I just pulled my tomatoes out and harvested all my peppers today. Still have the cippolini onions in the ground and still getting lettuce.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 5:02 PM

i believe the "jamaica" tea you speak of is called rosa de jamaica, and it's made from rose hips like those found on rosa rugosa. but i think the flower in the picture might be hibiscus.

Posted by: stephen at November 6, 2008 5:08 PM

Nope. Rose hips are almost fruit like and are used primarily as a source of Vitamin C. The jamaica tea is made from petals and is definitely from the hibiscus family. I have some here. Google them both.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 5:11 PM

is it Clematis vine?

Posted by: bren at November 6, 2008 5:18 PM

I knew a guy that caught Clematis vine in high school after a class trip to the Philippines. A couple of shots of penicillin and it cleared right up.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 6, 2008 5:24 PM

"A class trip to the Philippines" Didn't know such a thing existed.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 6, 2008 5:29 PM

It does have a bit of the look of those beautiful Jamaica flowers, I don't think it's clematis, Hmm, not Rose of Sharon - don't they have that Pistilly thing. Hmmm, going to get my flower book...

Posted by: cobblehiller at November 6, 2008 5:29 PM


Biff, were you on that class trip to the Phillipines as well? :)

Posted by: bren at November 6, 2008 5:31 PM

Ok, in my flower book it looks like it might be: Port St. John's creeper?

Posted by: cobblehiller at November 6, 2008 5:44 PM

DIBS, there likely isn't such a thing. I just thought it worked well in the joke. Don't get excited or start having thoughts of returning to high school as a mature student!

Bren, I wish. I would love to go there, but haven't been yet.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 6, 2008 5:56 PM

Here is a site with a picture of a Mandevilla.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/2941/

The buds are the same.

Posted by: brooklynschool at November 6, 2008 6:00 PM

Hmmm... just checked out Port St. John's Creeper, Cobblehiller, but I don't think that's it... but heck,
Biff could have a field day with Port St. John's Creeper! :)

Posted by: bren at November 6, 2008 6:17 PM

bren, I was thinking of saying that "we already have a Lodi Creeper here, so what's one more", but thought better of it. You know me so well. :-)

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 6, 2008 6:23 PM

You guys are hopeless.
these are four-o-clocks.
very old fashioned flowers.

Posted by: sam at November 6, 2008 6:24 PM

Ah, so many wrong, opinionated people on brownstoner, only this time we can fact-check them to death.

It's Mandevilla.

Posted by: Will at November 6, 2008 9:23 PM

Look, you fools. You're in danger. Can't you see? They're after you. They're after all of us. Our wives, our children, everyone. They're here already. YOU'RE NEXT!

They are pod flowers from outer space.

Posted by: WillBklyn at November 6, 2008 10:19 PM

At first I though they were wild roses, but now that I look closer, maybe it is some kind of clematis.

Posted by: mopar at November 6, 2008 10:59 PM

OK Lisa, what is it??????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 8:32 AM

Amazing to see how quickly these were recognized, but people still speculating. What's more amazing is to find them thriving and blooming outdoors at this date, as they are tropical in origin, require very full sun and will not survive a winter outdoors. As BrooklynSchool and Will already identified, they are unmistakably Mandevilla (Alice Dupont).

Posted by: vinca at November 7, 2008 8:46 AM

My mother the gardener says it's Pandora's Vine. I'm still not convinced.

Posted by: lisa at November 7, 2008 9:23 AM

It's mandevilla.

And, have you seen the late-blooming anemones in front of Jennifer Connelly's house on PPW? November 7 and they're still gorgeous.

Posted by: anonymous552 at November 7, 2008 10:00 AM

This plant wouldn't even have to be in bloom to ID it by it's leaves. Brooklynschool has already posted a link to a photo of Mandevilla. Here's a photo of Pandora Vine--check the leaves, no resemblance: http://www.gardenbuddies.com/forum/messages/4367/1167498.html
Mandevilla is available at any garden center in spring. Also at HD, Lowe's and Costco.

Posted by: vinca at November 7, 2008 10:06 AM

Closing the Pandora's box.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 10:08 AM

http://hort.ufl.edu/gt/coast/mandevilla.htm

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 7, 2008 10:18 AM

custserv@whiteflowerfarm.com


Dear Gardening Friend:

Thank you for sending White Flower Farm a photograph of a plant for identification. The plant is a Mandevilla, a tropical plant usually grown in containers in cold areas.

We hope this information is helpful. Thank you for thinking of White Flower Farm.

Posted by: lisa at November 12, 2008 9:28 AM

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