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November 7, 2008

Borough Hall Attack

attack-1108.jpgSomething went down by the fountain near Borough Hall last night, reports McBrooklyn. Apparently someone was attacked "with a heavy object" which police were searching for by flashlight. The man accused of perpetrating the crime was sitting, handcuffed, in the bus shelter, and the victim taken away by ambulance (see photo). Anybody know more?




Posted by lisa at 9:15 AM | Comments (38)
Categories: Crime, Downtown Brooklyn

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Why is this being reported like this??????

An assault (with injuries) is hardly a major incident, especially if no shooting was involved. Even in Brooklyn Heights assaults can happen. But by every measure crime is down to record levels in Brooklyn and yet lately even anecdotal crime reports are being highlighted here....hmmm what's the agenda????

Could it be that the local blogesphere wants to promote the notion that the downturn in the economy is leading to an increase in street crime (ala 1970's???).

While everyone has their own "Warriors" fantasy ["You see what you get when you mess with the Orphans, you see what you get!!!!"]

it would be nice if your reporting actually reflected reality, rather then trying to prove some impossibly simplistic theory last seriously taught in the late 80's in liberal arts colleges across America (ie. poverty=crime).

If you want to report on crime - how about including some facts and statistics????

Posted by: fsrg at November 7, 2008 10:54 AM

I agree with fsrq. Unless we're talking major crimes like shootings, these are run-of-the-mill and do not add anything here except a blip in the statistics. Any change in a trend would be noteworthy and worth reporting like, say, a ballooning in the number of citations issued for stoop drinking. That however is probably on hold until Spring.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 10:59 AM

Seriously: is Brownstoner going to turn into "mugginggossip.com"?

Posted by: serpentor at November 7, 2008 11:05 AM

I for one do find this interesting and significant. There have been a number of muggings around that area in the past few weeks too, and while I don't have the facts in front of me, I remember reading that these indicents are happening much more frequently in BH than in past years.

Posted by: alsawo at November 7, 2008 11:35 AM


More like:

"wildingteenagersareafterme.com"

Posted by: East New York at November 7, 2008 11:36 AM

Where is the king of the asshats? The one known as The What?

Posted by: noah at November 7, 2008 11:55 AM

alsawo - "There have been a number of muggings around that area in the past few weeks too, and while I don't have the facts in front of me...."


Isnt that the point???? There are ALWAYS muggings and robberies....2.5M people live in Brooklyn....the only relevance is if they are in FACT happening more frequently - which you (or Brownstomner) apparently do not have the facts to support (and which the NYPD statistic seem to refute)

I am not saying that occasionally you don't have a crime of such violence or with an interesting storyline to make it noteworthy, but this post just appears to be motivated to introduce fear.

Posted by: fsrg at November 7, 2008 11:58 AM

"this post just appears to be motivated to introduce fear."

And, to produce other posts.

Posted by: East New York at November 7, 2008 12:11 PM

"Where is the king of the asshats? The one known as The What?"

Right here Baby Boy! I see a transformation happing here at Brownstoner. The tone is very negative! Maybe Brownstoner see that the Mutant Asset Bubbles has collapsed.

What happen here is no big deal but there is a surge of crime going on. The stats of NYPD is very misleading because some crimes do not get reported.

I hope you (Asshats) will be able to withstand the return to the good ole days of New York!

The What

someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 12:20 PM

"The stats of NYPD is very misleading because some crimes do not get reported."

Yeah, that's a brand new phenomenon of the MAB. It never happened in the past.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 12:27 PM

I know I'll regret this but.....

Why would crime be any more "unreported" now vs. last year at this time (or any other period).

If anything you have to assume that crime is more under-reported during periods of high crime, since victims will likely figure that less can be done.

Therefore, even if you assume that NYPD crime stats are only 25% of the total number of crimes really taking place in each category - since there is no more incentive now to not-report or mis-label (by NYPD) crimes then at any other period during the last 15 years - their is ZERO evidence anywhere (and from any reliable source) that shows crime increasing - (albeit their has been a slight increase in homicides this year but still at amazingly low numbers - and its tough to fudge homicide statistics)

Posted by: fsrg at November 7, 2008 12:27 PM

fsrq...I didn't analyze it and try to refute the What on it. I just tossed it back at him. You don't really expect him to reply now do you???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 12:31 PM

"Something went down ...last night" - please - don't try to sound so streetwise.
I also don't think this posting was warranted....since you know almost nothing about an incident you are only fueling rumor and speculation - which only feeds the people that say things like "don't have the facts in front of me, I remember reading that these indicents" (sic).

Posted by: Petebklyn at November 7, 2008 12:46 PM

So no one knows what happened.

The irony.

what's more out of place this article or the discussion that has followed it. Crap I just became as guilty as most of you. Thanks for sucking me in guys.

Posted by: funstraw at November 7, 2008 12:49 PM

"If anything you have to assume that crime is more under-reported during periods of high crime, since victims will likely figure that less can be done."

You just answered you own question. Crime has been rising for years! The crack epidemic subsided around 1994 and crime fell by 65%. There was lest Murders, Mugging and Break-in because of less crack use and Mayor Giuliani racist policies.

You can't keep crime statistics low in a city of 8 million people especially when you have a influx of Asshats into a minority neighborhood. They will get robbed!

" their is ZERO evidence anywhere (and from any reliable source) that shows crime increasing - (albeit their has been a slight increase in homicides this year but still at amazingly low numbers - and its tough to fudge homicide statistics)"

Yeah but the other stats are being fudge! There is a whole lotta crime going down in Asshat Hill. You just can't see because the Asshats Carl Lewis home from the train station.

"Yeah, that's a brand new phenomenon of the MAB. It never happened in the past."

Dave I'm so happy for you and do you know why? You are living in Ghetto Ground Zero and please read the thread about "Fewer Mortgages for Minority Communities". Dave no one will be able to get a Mortgage in your zip code. You live in a "Declining Area" and the value of your "investment" is going down.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..

Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 1:06 PM

Yeah What...and Babs Corcoran buys a place down the street from me for over $1 MM a month or so ago so I guess you're correct.

You're undertone of racism towards my neighborhood doesn't exactly answer my question about crime being unreported as a brand new phenomenon and not one that has gone on consistently.

I think "ghetto Ground Zero" might now be Lodi, NJ after you moved there.

Maybe you're off the meds or back on the crack today. Whatever it is you've slipped from the civil tones that Biff was so correctly incredulous of earlier in the week.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 1:14 PM

What, you're really having a tough time trying to change your image. Please read this a few times before your next post, ok ole pal?

"Biff please I trying to change my image here and you are not helping matters. If you don't have anything constructive to say them leave me alone. I'm not cursing and I'm being civil..

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...


Posted by: Return of The What at November 5, 2008 9:13 AM"

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:25 PM

"You're undertone of racism towards my neighborhood"

ROTMMFLMMFAO!!! And what "neighborhood" would that be Dave???? Bed Stuy???

I think that you and Babs have been playing "strap-on" with each other. My neighborhood LMMFAO Dave!!! Hey remember I asked you about your Hedge Fund redemption's? You never got back to me, what happen Dave?

"Yeah What...and Babs Corcoran buys a place down the street from me for over $1 MM a month or so ago so I guess you're correct."

Now there are 2 stupid Asshats living in Bed-Stuy.

Dave+Babs=Fail

The What

Someday Dave is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 1:27 PM

"Biff please I trying to change my image here and you are not helping matters. If you don't have anything constructive to say them leave me alone. I'm not cursing and I'm being civil..

Well Biff, did Dave call you? I am being civil and I'm not cursing, so whats the problem?

Biff I loved the way ole Derwood POOWED you in the forums! Classic, just like the way I used too.

Now run along Biff, Grown-ups are talking now...

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...


Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 1:32 PM

Oh dear. What, please, please relax and take the meds. You're losing it once again and not helping yourself with your image makeover! Don't get your knickers in a knot.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:33 PM

Well at least he isn't back to using "fucktard." Yet.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 1:33 PM

"Well Biff, did Dave call you? I am being civil and I'm not cursing, so whats the problem?"
Which part was civil, this: "I think that you and Babs have been playing "strap-on" with each other."

"Biff I loved the way ole Derwood POOWED you in the forums! Classic, just like the way I used too."
What, ole derwood got OWNED by me, buddy. Please read it again. We drove him out of there just like we drove you out of your own thread. You was POOWED, boy!

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:35 PM

"Well at least he isn't back to using "fucktard." Yet."

DIBS, I love seeing him lose it. He's like a 2 year old that can't control their temper when they can't get what they want!

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:36 PM

"He's like a 2 year old that can't control their temper when they can't get what they want!"

What?! The implosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble and a Black President in the same year? Man It doesn't get any better then that!

The funny thing is everyone has stop fighting me except the 2 Asshats known as Dave and Biff. Damn shame guys just give it up...

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 1:53 PM

Someone has to fight for "peace, justice and the American way."

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 1:56 PM

"The funny thing is everyone has stop fighting me "

Yes, The What. You see that's what happens when you become irrelevant.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:57 PM

sorry, "truth, justice and the American way"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 1:58 PM

Although you did have a few run-ins with others just yesterday. I would be happy to do a cut and paste to remind you since you seem to have a very short and selective memory.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:58 PM

Dave, it's ok. There's no way What is familiar with the quote anyway.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 1:59 PM

WHAT is all this excitment? Why didn't you guys tell me you were in here. I was out there discussing architectural aesthetics when I couldn't have been in here.

I hate to admit, I laughed at a couple of lines the What threw out. He's back to his Whatisms.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 7, 2008 2:43 PM

Where is derwood today? Still trying to figure out the difference between free speech and the right to privacy and rights of business owners to run their business as they choose? Maybe he is still working so he can save up for the formal education he so desperately needs?

There is a war going on in the what's head, civil vs insane. Someday it will end, just not soon enough.

So if a random act of kindness occurs, will someone report on that here? Will we then share our stories of random acts of kindness, thus leadng everyone to beleive that random acts of kindness are running rampant throughout Brooklyn but know one knows because the NYPD spends its entire time trying to hide such acts?

As the what might understand: Don't believe the hype.

Posted by: 11233 at November 7, 2008 3:12 PM

"Someone has to fight for "peace, justice and the American way."

No you just want to be a Asshat Dave. Nothing more, nothing less.

"I hate to admit, I laughed at a couple of lines the What threw out. He's back to his Whatisms."

Oh man, another one. Hiya BRG..

"Where is derwood today? Still trying to figure out the difference between free speech and the right to privacy and rights of business owners to run their business as they choose? Maybe he is still working so he can save up for the formal education he so desperately needs?"

11233 is that your zip code? Ok good, you and Dave can team up when the youngins start playing Baseball with you.

You know something? The Asshats are living on borrowed time! I say in about few weeks the wheels are going start coming off of everything! Real Estate, The Economy, Mutant Asset Bubble and the Gravitational field thats holding up this crap!

I''m willing to bet that the Asshats will still argue that everything is OK. You live in a delusional world.

Have a safe weekend and I will be back on Monday to OWNED some more Asshats.

The What (Lord and Commander of the Asshats)

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 7, 2008 3:29 PM

"I say in about few weeks the wheels are going start coming off of everything! Real Estate, The Economy, Mutant Asset Bubble and the Gravitational field thats holding up this crap!"

What, please be more specific. We need the next date of our Brownstoner party. Maybe December 3?

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 3:31 PM

"Have a safe weekend and I will be back on Monday to OWNED some more Asshats."

And the laughs just keep on coming!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 3:32 PM

Certainly sounds like a pre-Christmas party to me Biff. And you gotta do the planning since that BH house hasn't sold yet.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 7, 2008 3:34 PM

Darn, I forgot about that...ok, as soon as What gives us the date, I'll start the planning.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 7, 2008 3:56 PM

Interesting how you try to defend derwood, what.

The only baseball playing in my neighborhood will be on a ball field.

Perhaps things will fall apart, what, but your obvious mental health issues will leave you poorly equiped to deal with the new world order. Shame you never got a formal education. It could really comein handy now.

Posted by: 11233 at November 7, 2008 4:20 PM

Incredibly rude posters...why is it that this blog consistently attracts the most obnoxious and "superior"?
Don't know why some of you are choose to make Brooklyn and for that matter NYC your home.

Posted by: argentina at November 9, 2008 5:14 PM

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