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November 20, 2008
AMNY Does Cobble Hill
Cobble Hill: full of "yoga-glow moms pushing expensive baby strollers" and "wine bars, stylish boutiques and gift shops." That's part of the round-up of the nabe, courtesy of AMNY, which finds similarities between Cobble Hill and its Park Slope, Carroll Gardens and Boerum Hill neighbors. So what's different about it? "Cobble Hill is smaller and more intimate, especially east of Court Street where the noise and fuss gives way to peaceful little streets, gardens with wrought-iron fences and pre-Civil War era townhouses," they write. They report a happy mix: old-school Italians residents; the Middle Easterners along Atlantic; an infusion of young hipster types, all peacefully coexisting in this pocket of the world. “Sure, there are hipsters, but it's not Williamsburg,” said one resident. “And too many strollers but it's not Park Slope, either.”
City Living: Cobble Hill [AMNY]
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Hipster and stroller baiting to drive up traffic. Shameful. LOL
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 20, 2008 11:19 AM
“Sure, there are hipsters, but it's not Williamsburg,” said one resident. “And too many strollers but it's not Park Slope, either.”
cobble hill is tiny. so this comment makes no sense.
Posted by: Santa at November 20, 2008 11:25 AM
they need a compass
Cobble Hill is smaller and more intimate, especially east of Court Street where the noise and fuss gives way to peaceful little streets, gardens with wrought-iron fences and pre-Civil War era townhouses," they write
pretty sure they mean west of court.
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 11:31 AM
Pic looks like Verandah Place; love to have my family in one of those homes.
Posted by: Fjorder at November 20, 2008 11:31 AM
fjorder - 2 verandah place is just finishing a gut reno, was vacant for years. looks like condo or co-op as well, as the buzzer has three buttons on it. may come on the market fairly soon i'm guessing, so if you're serious stay on the lookout for it. they still need to finish the exterior though.. they've been working on it since before the summer.
i think brownstoner may have noted the sale a while back if i remember correctly.
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 11:37 AM
Pretty certain they mean WEST of Court Street.
Posted by: r1b2 at November 20, 2008 11:38 AM
Expecting journalists and brokers to get those details correct is expecting way too much.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 20, 2008 11:42 AM
Wait, wait ... there are hipsters and babies in an expensive Brooklyn neighborhood? Who would've thought?
Also, seriously, enough with calling all young people hipsters. Having shaggy hair and an ipod does not a hipster make.
Posted by: cwbuecheler at November 20, 2008 11:45 AM
i just want to see some tourist read this, head to court street and start heading east.
where "noise and fuss gives way to peaceful little streets" - of the gowanus houses.
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 11:48 AM
Yes and they do mean west but at least they acknowledge that Cobble Hill crosses Court Street. In my mind Cobble Hill includes the blocks south of Degraw between Smith & Court Streets at least as far north as Warren.
Posted by: 99luftballons at November 20, 2008 11:48 AM
RobertMosesJr....it's #4 that's been renovated and I believe it's staying in the family....bummer. I had dibs. And someone was actually living in it until it was sold. It just looked vacant, and haunted.
Posted by: CHMomma at November 20, 2008 11:55 AM
someone was living in that?? really??
windows were always broken etc. wow.
well anyway.. there are 3 buzzers on it for sure. so maybe they will rent out a unit or 2?
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 12:05 PM
Cobble Hill is frightfully dull. Do people on this blog aspire to live there?
Posted by: mopar at November 20, 2008 12:06 PM
actually i find something intriguing about boring and dull places.
however I cant really afford anything in cobble hill so it doesnt really matter.
Posted by: Santa at November 20, 2008 12:13 PM
Brown Harris has a Verandah listing that they've been working on for a while. Think it's under 3mm now...
Posted by: Ringo at November 20, 2008 12:21 PM
Some of us on this blog do live there. What exactly is dull about it?
Posted by: 99luftballons at November 20, 2008 12:28 PM
"Frightfully dull." I'm choking on my tea and crumpets with laughter.
Posted by: SouthBklynPartisan at November 20, 2008 12:44 PM
"Cobble Hill is frightfully dull."
Oy. I can't believe those words fell out of your mouth.
Gee, mopar, thanks. And precisely what kind of 'excitement' were you looking for?
It's a pretty damn nice place to live. And, news flash, we have transportation to and from 'exciting places'.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 20, 2008 12:52 PM
I moved from Manhattan to live on a relatively "dull" and quiet street.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 20, 2008 12:59 PM
and i moved to a dull neighborhood cuz i wanted to actually sleep at night and not hear gunshots going off every 5 minutes.
*Rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at November 20, 2008 1:02 PM
i find bushwick frightfully frightful
that's why i live in dull CH
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 1:08 PM
BoCoCa and PS are twins
Posted by: infinitejester at November 20, 2008 1:36 PM
I like living in Cobble Hill (better than any place I've lived in NYC, actually). It's a good feeling to get off the train and not think, "I can't stand this sh*thole, but once I get inside my place, it'll all be good". Yeah, I don't have those thoughts in CH.
Posted by: broadwayron at November 20, 2008 1:36 PM
broadwagon, i feel exactly the same way. i honestly really really thought i would despise park slope. i completely thought every stereotype would be true, only to really find none of them true... i mean yeah, if you look hard enough you'll see it, but for the most part it is definitely the nicest place i have ever lived in nyc as well. i would get into so much trouble in harlem, and i swear i wasnt even looking for the trouble. in park slope i havent found any trouble and if the worst thing ive done there is to break a stripper pole, than that's a good thing :)
*Rob*
Posted by: PitbullNYC at November 20, 2008 1:55 PM
"in park slope i havent found any trouble"
Rob, clearly you're not trying hard enough! :-)
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 20, 2008 2:25 PM
infinite jester - i think BoCoCa is more like PS's baby brother, and they're in one of those double strollers where the big kid gets the real seat and the baby gets that little lowrider bucket underneath where you don't even know the baby's there until it starts crying.
Posted by: i disagree at November 20, 2008 2:35 PM
Oh just trying to stir up some excitement this morning because I'm in frightfully dull Palo Alto visiting family. Translation: Cobble Hill is cute but the food isn't great and it's too expensive for me.
Posted by: mopar at November 20, 2008 2:37 PM
mopar, not another word from you.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 20, 2008 2:43 PM
"in park slope i havent found any trouble"
Call me!
Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 20, 2008 2:45 PM
Palo Alto? I happen to be wearing an "Antonio's Nuthouse" shirt right now.
You want action? Head over to East Palo Alto.
Posted by: broadwayron at November 20, 2008 2:50 PM
Good heavens, I spent a fair amount of time in Antonio's Nuthouse around 1986. What a strange coincidence.
I would like Cobble Hill more if it had a Citarella. Actually, I would like every neighborhood more if they had Citarella.
Posted by: mopar at November 20, 2008 3:16 PM
Citarella! Oh good god, no we do not!
We have great grocery shopping and it's expensive enough, please and thank you.
Sahadi, Damascus Bakery, Trader Joes, Staubitz, Green Pea, Jim & Andy, Cobblestone, at least 4 bakeries. No, absolutely not, we do not need Citarella.
Now mopar, please go find something useful to do dear, you're getting on my cobblehill nerves.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 20, 2008 3:27 PM
As a miserable resident of the miserable East Village, I look forward to living in such a dull neighborhood as Cobble Hill someday. I disagree that PS and Cobble Hill are similar... I feel like Cobble Hill borrows more from the vibe of Brooklyn Heights than "BoCa" (ugh, kill me), particularly the area west of Court...
Posted by: duckumu at November 20, 2008 3:28 PM
Don't forget Stinky Brooklyn on Smith, which has excellent cheeses, cured meats, and other gourmet items.
Posted by: duckumu at November 20, 2008 3:32 PM
Likewise duckumu, the bococa thing makes my stomach turn.
You come on over here, you sound like just the kind of person we want in this neck of the woods. You must be paying as much or more there than you would pay over here, no?
mopar can stay in bushwick being an oh too cool for cobble hill hipster. feh.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 20, 2008 3:34 PM
Couldn't agree more. I relunctantly left NY city 12 months ago to buy and move in Cobble Hill as my family was growing and I am SO in love. I wasn't sure what to expect from Brooklyn after 10 years in Manhattan so I went thru an extensive and very long search of all neighborhoods in Brooklyn and ended up in what I considered the best: Cobble Hill. It is the second closest after BH but let's say more affordable.
I have been pleasantly surprised. Ok .... restaurants are clearly not up to par (and I have tried all the best ones), and it's hard to find the same level of convenience (as far as proximity of your gym ,massage place, beauty salon, yoga studio, dry cleaner, pharmacy, no whole foods, bla bla bla) but I definitely found peace and civilized people. It is so quiet (no more loud FDNY and NYPD sirens) and I actually know and enjoy my neighbors. We help each other out everytime we can (from sweeping the leaves, to looking after their house when they're gone, from putting the garbage off the streets after it's been collected).
Recently at a brunch, a friend who lives in Park Slope complained about his scooter that recently got trashed while parked outside on his block, another complained about the constant subway noise in Dumbo to the point you cant even have a discussion outside and the other one complained about the street noise in Boerum Hill. Frankly, I couldn't come up with one complaint about Cobble Hill.
Posted by: brownie77 at November 20, 2008 3:47 PM
" I relunctantly left NY city 12 months ago to buy and move in Cobble Hill" - gee now that you don't live in NY city guess you don't pay city income tax nor can vote for Bloomberg.
Posted by: Petebklyn at November 20, 2008 3:52 PM
Cobbler, ok, you can stake claim to Trader Joe's, and the others, but please give credit to Brooklyn Heights for Sahadi's and Damascus Bakery! It's north of Atlantic and you have enough good places anyway. BH needs all the grocery help it can get!
Posted by: Biff Champion at November 20, 2008 3:53 PM
Aw, Brownie! That's so nice! Welcome dear! I'd bring you some holiday cookies if I knew who you were!
Pete, I like you, but you are a G R U M P! : )
OK, ok, Biff, I knew I was cheating a tad with Sahadi, Damascus and Green Pea.
Posted by: cobblehiller at November 20, 2008 4:00 PM
brownie - most of that stuff you mention is on court or smith street? right? isn't there an equinox in brooklyn heights? you have fresh direct and trader joes, so doesn't that add to the same thing as whole foods? if you have a car, go to the pathmark on the edge of carroll gardens btw - probably more good deals - i have recently become a huge fan of the pathmark in LIC - it's gigantic and immaculate and i get tons of money back using my pathmark card.
i do have to say your comment about the food is right. i have lived in park slope and cobble hill and find the food is williamsburg restaurants to be just on another level.
Posted by: wine lover at November 20, 2008 5:12 PM
I never knew the dividing line on the north perimeter of Cobble Hill was the north side of Atlantic Ave. As a kid growing up in Cobble Hill(1962-1975) who actually hung out on Verrandah place when the park wasn't there and an old dilapidated Church was there instead, we owned Atlantic Avenue back then. Most of the original Lebanese or Syrian merchants of Atlantic Ave lived on Amity or Pacific Street in Cobble Hill, so I think it's proper to claim Sahadi's and Damascus as Cobble Hill landmarks.
Posted by: JHS 6 at November 20, 2008 6:00 PM
even if these places are technically in BH, it's not like as if they don't add to the conveniences of living in CH. most people probably go to them on the walk home from the subway.
now that is probably the only downer about CH, proximity to the subway. i personally don't mind the walk, but it's about 10 min to boro hall and the F train blows.
Posted by: RobertMosesJr at November 20, 2008 7:57 PM
Cobblehiller, you have a Trader Joes? OK, Cobble Hill has clearly changed a lot since I lived in Carroll Gardens. The food was just as expensive if not more than Citarella, and it wasn't as good. Citarella is really quite a good value in New York terms. Sorry to be getting on your nerves, Cobblehiller, please forgive me.
Posted by: mopar at November 20, 2008 11:02 PM
Petebklyn - you're pathetic !
Posted by: brownie77 at November 21, 2008 11:41 AM
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