Closing Bell: Give the 4 Train Your Feedback

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Yesterday through Friday, the MTA is asking riders of the 4 line to give it a grade. They're handing report cards out at various stations; Brooklyn gets the pencils ready today. Report cards can be found at Crown Heights-Utica Avenue, Franklin Avenue, Atlantic Avenue, Nevins Street, and Borough Hall.

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Does anyone know why the 5 train doesn't go into Brooklyn late nights/weekends? Is this something that will ever happen?

Posted by: fishermb at October 14, 2008 5:16 PM

fishermb - i'd love to know as well, but i'm guessing it's just budget/ridership issues. always the worst feeling when you get on that train and have to get off at bowling green to wait for a 4, only one stop away.

but that being said.. the 4/5 line really isnt bad during rush hours. much better than some other lines in terms consistency. a bit crowded for a few stops but no big deal.

Posted by: RobertMosesJr at October 14, 2008 6:16 PM

Didn’t we do this just a year or so ago? And didn’t almost every line have a grade of about C with nearly every rider saying on every line they wanted more service/less waits between trains?

So what could the MTA possibly hope to learn in the 2nd round? Why do they need to spend another dime of money and another second of their time to learn that we want better service?

The 4/5 might not be “that bad” during rush hours but if NYC is really committed to fewer cars and a greener city, “not bad” mass transit is not going to cut it.

Posted by: drag at October 14, 2008 6:36 PM

fishermb:

The 5 doesn't go into Brooklyn late nights and weekends because the 5 and the 2 trains run the same route. Once you get into Brooklyn, the 2 train makes all the same stops as the 5.

Posted by: i_heart_brooklyn at October 15, 2008 12:52 AM

I wish they's cut those automatic announcements about the doors, etc that they play every 10 secondes on the 4 & 5. MTA employees and service rank somewhere in and around the post office and the DMV

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2008 7:56 AM

That's probably a liability issue. I wish they'd get the train going as soon as the train stops, and open the doors as soon as the train stops, not 5-10 secs later. Also not stop trains and tell you there's traffic ahead when there hasn't been a previous train for 12 minutes.

Posted by: cmu at October 15, 2008 9:28 AM

cmu, it's like taking a flight from LaGuardia: they tell you it's going to be delayed 2 hours due to weather, even though you know it's perfectly clear from New York to your final destination. I think the delays are often due to another kind of "weather", as in whether or not the pilot had too much to drink the night before and is trying to shake off the hangover or whether or not they'll bump everyone to the next flight to save some dinero.

Posted by: Biff Champion at October 15, 2008 9:37 AM

Yes cmu...I don't understand the door delays either. It must be a "union thing." Do you all remember the lobbying for the "unborn" during the contract negotiations/strike. What a croc of shit that is.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2008 9:45 AM

i heart the R train. i just wanted to get that out there. it's never packed even during rush hour and rarely problematic! (even tho i always hear people complaining about service). maybe on the weekends? but during rush hours during the week there's always seats. it's great! and most of the time it's the old school orange seat train. am i the only one who doesnt like the new grey and silver inside trains with the annoying robotic voices and the harsh lighting? the older trains lighting is much more flattering hahah.

-rob

Posted by: PitbullNYC at October 15, 2008 10:03 AM

PitbullNYC, shhhhh! Don't let the secret out! The R is definitely the most pleasant rush hour train there is. I think you're right regarding the complaints. I've found it often unpredictable on the weekends (as is the F); it seems to be often rerouted or down for repairs. But it's the best weekday train, in my opinion. I also agree re: the robotic voices. Part of the charm for me when I first moved to New York was hearing people get berated by a conductor with a strong native New York accent on the 4, 5 and 6 trains for not stepping clear of the closing doors or hear other conductors cheerfully wishing everyone a happy holiday season in December and even giving a brief history of various stops!

Posted by: Biff Champion at October 15, 2008 10:25 AM

In the morning we have a conductor who calls our train the "Manhattan-bound A Experience."

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at October 15, 2008 10:32 AM

oh my... on the 1 train, my old commute up into harlem from work the train conductor was a mega-dick. he was SO mean. and whiney too. it was funny at first, but hearing it over and over and over everyday really got on my nerves. i usually read on the train versus listen to music. i would always laugh at the people blasting their ipods and not hear the announcement that the 1 train would be skipping stops and then they'd get all pissy and/or confused. it's like, well they did announce it many stops ago! one thing i am so happy about is that i do not have to take the L or the 7 train. i will never move ANYWHERE along the L or 7. everyone i know who takes those train during rush hours has a horror story EVERY DAY. i still dont get how the hell the L train is going to sustain more people people moving along those lines.. but most likely people who can afford those gazillion dollar condos dont have 9-5 jobs anyway so maybe it won't make a difference.

-rob

Posted by: PitbullNYC at October 15, 2008 10:33 AM

Well the one good thing about the robotic voices is you can at least make out what they're saying. It's frustrating when trains start skipping stops and, even for those not listening to music, all one can hear is the "garble garble garble" coming over the loudspeakers, sounding like a conversation with Charlie Brown's teacher on the old Peanuts TV specials.

Posted by: Biff Champion at October 15, 2008 10:40 AM

hahahahh troof on that

-rob

Posted by: PitbullNYC at October 15, 2008 10:53 AM

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