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September 12, 2008

Wild Teens Trash Court Street B&N, Assault Manager

A reader sent in a disturbing account of a visit yesterday afternoon to the Court Street Barnes & Noble. While she was on the second floor, she noticed a large number of teens she believes were from one of the nearby public schools. In addition to being loud and disorderly, they were also purposefully knocking books off shelves. A few minutes later, as she headed down to the first floor, she witnessed an altercation between the manager and one of the teenagers. The manager had asked him to leave the store. "You disrespectin' me?" the teen shouted back. No, that's why I'm asking you nicely to leave, but you need to leave, reiterated the manager. Then, wham, the teen wound up and socked the manager in the face, bloodying him and knocking him over, and took off down the street. Rather than stick around to help i.d. the assailant, whom our tipster overheard some of the kids saying they knew where he lived, the rest of them took off as well. No word on whether the cops caught the guy. Update: Turns out that someone did call the cops and they came very quickly, but the assailant had already fled.
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Wait, I thought all the wilding teens were in Clinton Hill?

Posted by: lowintheheights at September 12, 2008 10:01 AM

Great, friday morning race war!

This happens all the time - I saw some of these animals attack someone in Times Square yesterday.

Posted by: Polemicist at September 12, 2008 10:01 AM

I tell you, it's all those failing Brooklyn Heights schools. Surely these kids are the product of that rough-and-tumble P.S.8 environment!

Posted by: Beau Guest at September 12, 2008 10:02 AM

"You disrespectin' me?"

Man, that whole "you owe me respect" crap that kids (and some adults) pull is one of the most annoying things I've ever heard a person utter. Commonly spoken by the low-life gangbanger (who deserves absolutely NO respect) and wannabees, the irony is that there are few people in the world who should be "owed" less respect.

Posted by: broadwayron at September 12, 2008 10:03 AM

nope, St. Anne's

Put the parents in jail too!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 10:04 AM

Definitely brotha's, fo' sure - fool.

Posted by: PropJoe at September 12, 2008 10:14 AM

This is really an unfortunate incident and I hope the manager is okay. From Brownstoner's account, it's unclear if the cops were called as soon as it was clear that the behavior of the students was inappropriate. Also, doesn't this store have security guards? Not that the same thing wouldn't have happened to them, but surely they are less of a target than a buttoned up manager. Hats off to the manager for attempting to stand up to the kids in the first place though.

Posted by: jurist at September 12, 2008 10:14 AM

f*cking animals
send em to prison, lets see how tough they are

Posted by: blackstoner at September 12, 2008 10:16 AM

We can send them to the new prison on Atlantic Ave. Thanks Bloomberg for destroying a vibrant neighborhood. Seriously, what is wrong with these people. Prison should go in poor hoods like Bed Stuy or Bushwick or East NY, not Cobble Hill/Downtown. D'uh!

Posted by: PropJoe at September 12, 2008 10:24 AM

This is news?

Posted by: East New York at September 12, 2008 10:30 AM

East New York.

How is it NOT news?

Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 12, 2008 10:33 AM

"Man, that whole "you owe me respect" crap that kids (and some adults) pull is one of the most annoying things I've ever heard a person utter."

Indeed.

I assume it is generally just an attempt to instigate a physical confrontation while appearing as the aggrieved party rather than the instigator, although I guess some people really believe they are owed respect from total strangers.

Posted by: northsloperenter at September 12, 2008 10:38 AM

Saint Ann's kids would not purposefully knock books off of shelves, except perhaps for Derrida, Foucault and other late century deconstructionists, in an ironic sort of way.

Posted by: likes2lurk at September 12, 2008 10:40 AM

Some punks knocked down shelves and slapped a bookstore manager, who bled. I didn't read where the injuries will be life-threatening. The reader followed the episode, but somehow didn't simply walk outside and find a cop. The bookstore, located in the middle of downtown Brooklyn, doesn't have a security guard, yet management is presumably shocked - SHOCKED - that this could have occurred! Mr. Brownstoner is also shocked - SHOCKED - that a bunch of teen-agers didn't snitch on another misbehaving teen-ager, which is actually pretty predictable. Suffice it to say there are more serious crimes going down in Brooklyn. It's too bad this happened, but sorry, this is not news.

Posted by: East New York at September 12, 2008 10:44 AM

The irony here is guess who has more rights if this comes to legal action?

The kids.

Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 12, 2008 10:45 AM

No, PS...its assault, pure and simple. On the "disrespectin" thing, many people don't understand that free speach is free speach but assault is an inappropriate response and also a crime punishable by imprisonment!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 10:47 AM

"We can send them to the new prison on Atlantic Ave. Thanks Bloomberg for destroying a vibrant neighborhood. Seriously, what is wrong with these people. Prison should go in poor hoods like Bed Stuy or Bushwick or East NY, not Cobble Hill/Downtown. D'uh!"

propjoe lives with polemicist in Lodi. they rent from the What.

Posted by: lurker in the mist at September 12, 2008 10:47 AM

East New York,
That someone got a beating a block from my house for no reason whatsoever is certainly important news to me. Could have happened to any one of us. The fact that there's more serious crime going on would excuse all criminal activity short of murder. Hardly an acceptable approach for most of us.

Posted by: Johnny at September 12, 2008 10:56 AM

There is most certainly a security guard in the Court Street B&N. I know because I looked the other day to see whether I would have to check my library book at the door, like the security guard at the Seventh Avenue B&N makes me. (BookCourt rules!)

Posted by: g man at September 12, 2008 11:00 AM

Live in Fort Greene, not dirty Jersey

Posted by: PropJoe at September 12, 2008 11:01 AM

east new york- I lived half a block away form the B&N and still go there quite frequently. they do have a security guard and have always had one.

My question is why no one called the cops who saw what was happening.

propjoe- please stop making useless, inflammatory comments.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 12, 2008 11:03 AM

propjoe does that to troll....he's actually black and thinks of himself as highly educated & successful

So where was the security guard!!!!???? Coffee break??

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 11:07 AM

dibs, you're being too nice, even though ENY is obvs trolling. what on earth does this have to do with free speech? answer is: bupkis. 1) it's a private business, and they have no obligation to let people say whatever they feel like - even if it wasn't accompanied by destruction of property. 2) ENY - the kid punched the manager - he didn't "slap" him. And there's a big difference between "misbehaving" and vandalism, destruction of property, and assault (fyi - you don't need "life-threatening" injuries to be assault. just need intent to injure for third degree, and serious injuries for 2d degree felony assault).

Posted by: i disagree at September 12, 2008 11:09 AM

This is very sad and upsetting @ the same time. I see these kids eh ANIMALS all the time in the subway and hanging around different hoods trashing everything around them. Unfortunately not much can be done in this society. Feel bad for that manager...folks take self defense classes believe me its useful.

Posted by: pierre de taille at September 12, 2008 11:10 AM

Thanks for thinking of me Daveinbedstuy - my white brotha.

Posted by: PropJoe at September 12, 2008 11:12 AM

i disagree...you are correct about that particular incident and its happening on private property. I was speaking about the more widespread use of "dissing" and whether it leads to an assault incident

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 11:14 AM

You disrespectin me PropJoe?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 11:16 AM

No disrespek, son. I ain't be hating on you, yo'

Posted by: PropJoe at September 12, 2008 11:18 AM

"Update: Turns out that someone did call the cops and they came very quickly, but the assailant had already fled."

Not quickly enough, I guess. Now I'M shocked!

Posted by: East New York at September 12, 2008 11:25 AM

This is a shame. I've been to this B&N a few times in the afternoon and there are always a lot of kids hanging out after school, but I've only ever seen them upstairs sitting in the aisles and reading. Maybe B&N should think about hiring another guard or two for the 2-6PM and having them circulate around the store instead of just manning the electronic security at the front door.

Posted by: zeebee_in_bklyn at September 12, 2008 11:27 AM

For those contemplating purchasing a luxury property in the Boro of Brooklyn, perhaps a home in the median range of one to three million dollars, I would strongly suggest reading this thread if for no other reason than to hone up on the local idiom, no disrespect be intended.

Posted by: sam at September 12, 2008 11:29 AM

Those of you using inflammatory, race-baiting language are no less ANIMALS than the delinquents that are the subject of this thread. The fact that your weapon is your keyboard and not your fist is of limited distinction. Your words have a deep impact on not only the readers of this blog, but those persons with whom your comments are shared. Perpetrating prejudice is just as animalistic as perpetrating violence. It's ironic that you can mock a misguided teen for thinking that he is entitled to respect from a stranger, but no doubt feel that your simplistic and arguably racist commentary is worthy of reverence by the strangers who read this blog.

The kids in this situation were wrong and should be pursued and prosecuted accordingly. Frankly, I don't know why anything more needs to be said.

Posted by: jurist at September 12, 2008 11:38 AM

jurist...read my post at 10:47...you have missed the exact point that you are talking about...the difference between free speach and assault. There is a difference between speah (and keyboard) and assault. As far as respect fro blog readers! Come on.

Your last paragraph is correct though.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 11:47 AM

Are there security cameras in the store?

This punk needs to be caught and punished.

Posted by: BK11201 at September 12, 2008 11:48 AM

sorry...don't know why i can't spell speech correctly today.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 12, 2008 11:50 AM

"a misguided teen"? lol

Tolerance of this sort of behavior, or marking it up to "the way teens act" is offensive and destructive. If you think this is the norm and/or excusable/explainable, then you have larger problems.

Posted by: 1842 at September 12, 2008 11:51 AM

Jurist, you beat me to it. Well said, indeed.

PropJoe, you only show up when the discussion is of a racial nature, and then only to throw gas on the fire. Whether you are a sock puppet for better recognized handle here, or just a troll, you add nothing of worth.

There is nothing in the original story to assume the racial makeup of these kids, yet most people assume they are black, as per many of the comments. The behavior of these kids, unfortunately, is not confined to any race or income level, I've seen delinquent behavior in just about every group of kids in this city. No child is an "animal", no matter what they do.

Lest people think I condone this, in some bleeding heart way, I don't. The kid who assaulted the manager should be arrested. The other kids should face some kind of action for the destruction of property. Such behavior is not acceptable from anyone at any time.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 12, 2008 11:52 AM

DIBS, I am not missing your point; I am making an entirely different one. Of course, people have the right to free speech (within the limits of the Constitution) and there is no corresponding right to make an unprovoked assault on a bookstore manager. That said, those taking advantage of their right to free speech by propagating insensitive, racially charged commentary need to look in the mirror when using the word "animal".

Posted by: jurist at September 12, 2008 11:56 AM

"The kid who assaulted the manager should be arrested. The other kids should face some kind of action for the destruction of property."

"The kids in this situation were wrong and should be pursued and prosecuted accordingly."

There you go. All true. But is it news - as in an unusual or notable occurrence worthy of a post on a blog about real estate? No, not in my opinion. But hey, that's why we live in America.

Posted by: East New York at September 12, 2008 11:56 AM

I don't think "jurist" meant that the physical actions of the assailant and the verbal actions of the postings are equal. Just the mentlity behind them.

The beauty of freedom of speech is it's fundamental principle. The concept means nothing if we all agree. So, just as people on here are free to toss their racist bantor around, which is terribly unfortunate at this day and age, people are free to comment on how vile they find these words, diatribes and verbal assaults.

Posted by: ph_kevin at September 12, 2008 12:06 PM

"But is it news - as in an unusual or notable occurrence worthy of a post on a blog about real estate? No, not in my opinion."

I'd say that random violent crime is extremely relevant to a real estate blog. Nothing will lower property values faster.

Is this an isolated incident? Probably. Will this affect Brooklyn Heights real estate values? Nope.

But it is a data point of interest. If it remains an outlier, it will be forgotten. If it marks the start of a trend, it will be remembered.

Posted by: northsloperenter at September 12, 2008 12:16 PM

I think it's relevant cuz it shows, just as the first commenter pointed out, that this crap isn't just a problem in the further out neighborhoods.

Posted by: itsagas at September 12, 2008 12:20 PM

"But is it news - as in an unusual or notable occurrence worthy of a post on a blog about real estate? No, not in my opinion."

Brownstoner posts restaurant reviews every day. Those are certainly not unusual,notable or real estate but brownstoner is not just a real estate blog- it's about life in brownstone Brooklyn. If we can blog over every Fro-YO (how notable is that?), then why isn't this worthy? I think it is.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 12, 2008 12:22 PM

I don't think further out neighborhoods have nice big bookstores like this.

Posted by: sam at September 12, 2008 12:24 PM

Jurist aren't you being a little too light handed by calling these idiotic morons just "misguided teens"? Also I hope you are not advocating violence with your reckless comment about keyboards and fists.
The behavior of these kids IMHO is nothing short of that of an ANIMAL. Pure Vermins! Racaille, bandits, des vrai salauds!

PS: BTW I am NOT white and violence is only ok in self defense:)

Posted by: pierre de taille at September 12, 2008 12:36 PM

"This is news?"

44 comments (and counting) pretty much means yes.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 12, 2008 12:37 PM

Regarding the security guard, unless they are armed, does anyone really think there's much one of them can do to stop a bunch of wild teens from doing whatever they darn well want to do? What guard in his/her right mind would even try. Further, even if the guard wanted to do something, based on the ones I've seen, I would put my money on the teens anyway in a race down a crowded street. I think the most the guards do is act as a deterrent from anyone contemplating stealing something who thinks they can't outrun or beat up the guard.

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 12, 2008 12:48 PM

thank you sam for that totally "useful" comment. Perhaps you should have said, "I myself really don't know because I haven't been to any further out neighborhoods but I am ignorantly assuming there aren't."

Posted by: bxgrl at September 12, 2008 12:53 PM

They are misguided teens. They are human, and not animals, not even necessarily stupid. They are misguided because they OBVIOUSLY did not have the basic home structure and support that a child needs in order to buck the temptations of crime and easy money in a tough world. (What else? Do you think it's genetic?) That said they should pay the price for their assault on society. If not for this, the next time. And then they will be adopted into our wonderful prison system which is sure to offer all the construct that's been missing. (That last line is sarcasm, btw.)

Posted by: Susan Elkins at September 12, 2008 1:06 PM

Let's not forget the physiological and biological changes going on in teens as well- it's this age when teens need the most guidance and structure. They won't learn to take responsibility for their actions if they aren't taught. And sometimes kids go wrong even in families that are good. Susan Elkins is right though- going from a family structure that isn't working to a prison structure that doesn't help won't make anything better. That's the real issue.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 12, 2008 1:14 PM

This location has been troubled since it first opened. The adjacent movie theatre gets very busy (it has god knows how many screens), there's constant double-parking outside on Court St, the sidewalk becomes impassable, the B&N gets mobbed by rowdy teens. All in all, it's a mess. The solution would seem to lie at a higher level than the particular kids involved in this most recent incident. The cops, Brooklyn Boro Hall, and local business owners and residents should get together to address these issues of over-crowding and anti-social behaviour. Perhaps this is already in progress. Can any BH folks involved in local civic groups comment?

Oh, and did I mention that FCR/Bruce Ratner built this? That's what high density developments can do for ya, kids!

Posted by: NeoGrec at September 12, 2008 1:14 PM

I just had to add that while I truly abhor physical violence and believe that teenagers need a firm hand, those of you who made the "animal" comments are well out of order. Examine your hearts and minds and ask yourselves where that desire to dehumanize others comes from.

Posted by: NeoGrec at September 12, 2008 1:33 PM

"They are misguided teens. They are human, and not animals, not even necessarily stupid. They are misguided because they OBVIOUSLY did not have the basic home structure and support that a child needs in order to buck the temptations of crime and easy money in a tough world."

I think some people might make the point that you don't get to be called "human" until you exhibit the basic behavioral characteristics of human beings: rational thought, foresight, understanding of the consequences of one's actions, ability to delay gratification for a greater good, etc.

They certainly do have the potential to become humans, and with the proper guidance, support, and resources they may do so. But, as it stands, they are little above animals.

As, one might note, are most teenagers, not to mention a good number of posters to this board....

Posted by: ScottLee at September 12, 2008 1:34 PM

Did you include yourself in that comment about posters, ScottLee?

Kids can be jerks, but its our responsibility to teach them so they can grow up to be responsible adults. It's not just the family that fails, it's the society as well. Simply blowing these kids off as animals is to miss the whole point of their behavior. They've been failed by everyone. Doesn't mean I think they should get off, they shouldn't. That's part of the teaching process. But calling them animals won't fix anything and marginalizes the fact that their problems become everyone's problems.

Posted by: east river at September 12, 2008 1:56 PM

@east river

Yeah, I was just coming back to include myself in my own assessment. Not anticipating the consequences of my own actions = irony.

Thanks for calling it.

Posted by: ScottLee at September 12, 2008 2:17 PM

Nicely done, ScottLee - we've all been drenched in irony at some point in our lives. Lord knows I have.

Posted by: east river at September 12, 2008 2:36 PM

I've shopped at this B&N often, and gone to the movies numerous times next door, as well. I've never seen or heard rowdy teenagers before, so I suspect this is an aberration, not the norm. That certainly doesn't excuse their behavior, but it also doesn't mean that Barnes and Noble has to look like a bank when the armored cars are unloading, either. I find it heartening that teenagers are in a bookstore, and usually see all kinds of kids just browsing and reading. I hope reading is more important than rowdyism.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 12, 2008 3:43 PM

Hi, I was the one who e-mailed Brownstoner about this. Montrose Morris, to answer your question, they were african american teens and the manager who was assaulted was white. The manager kept his cool and actually very politely asked the group to leave. The security guard stood next to the event and did nothing (I hope he's fired). The young man who attacked the manager was yelling "you can't talk to me, I'm 18" - good for him...now he could go to jail...There were a lot of kids who were clearly schoolmates in the store. Some of them were just hanging out there and not pulling down books and being rowdy. I heard one express regret over the incident, lamenting that now his place to hang out wasn't going to let him in anymore.
I have seen large groups of teens hanging out there before and I don't think it's quite as MM describes - they're not hanging out in the aisles perusing literature. I think it's great for all school kids to hang around after school with books and many, if not all of the public libraries in the city have great after school programs for teens. When I (white) was a teen, no store wanted groups of us hanging out there after school - the only place that would have us was mcdonalds, and that was only because we kept coming back for more fries...
Finally, I really want to commend the manager for how he tried to defuse the situation and I hope he's alright.

Posted by: miss priss at September 12, 2008 4:11 PM

I pretty much stopped going to this theater & BN precisely to avoid the hordes of pre-teens and teens who hangout at all hours being rowdy inside and outside of both buildings. I'm not too surprised by this story.

Posted by: jwald at September 12, 2008 4:20 PM

I've spent more than my fair share of time hanging out at B&N. Part of its charm- for those of you who like B&N -is that it encourages people to hang out, read and hopefully, buy books. I've never seen crowds of teens rampaging through and certainly never attacking anyone. I've gone numerous times to the theater and never had a problem If there is, pressure should be brought to bear on the company.

Can anyone verify that the theater and book store have been constant problems, or caused an uptick in area crime?

Posted by: east river at September 12, 2008 5:06 PM

NeoGrec: what on *earth* does high density (whatever that means in a two story bookstore) or Ratner have to do with this particular issue? You've GOT to be kidding. I mean really, these punks don't really need you to give them one more (illegitimate, ridiculous) reason not to grow up and take responsibility for their actions.

Posted by: i disagree at September 12, 2008 5:12 PM

A reason do use alibris dot com and support smaller bookstores.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 12, 2008 5:47 PM

ditto, what's alibris? Sounds like that an Islamic circumcision?

Posted by: Biff Champion at September 12, 2008 5:52 PM

I live in Cobble Hill and I lived in Brooklyn for in excess of 30 years. I am shocked at how peacefull this city has become. This City is relatively safe. The incident at BN sounds like an aberration. Obviously it shouldnt be permitted to occurr and I dont think it had anything to do with Forest City Ratner and high rise development. Calling the perpetrator of this assault an animal is probably counter productive (some people consider this code). Though this individual can not be permitted to assualt other people its unfortunate that the solution would be imprison. The Courts and our correctional system do very little in the way of correcting.I think as times get tougher people get more stressed and desperate these type of incidents will become more frequent.

Posted by: MRivera at September 12, 2008 6:05 PM

BC, the sales of used books (but not new books) have pretty much moved entirely to the internet. Alibris, Abebooks, and Biblio (all followed by dot com) are the three large used book sites, plus Amazon of course. Each of these sites allows small sellers (and large) to list books for sale for varying fees.

addall.com/used will search all these sites plus others just in case you are ever interested in buying a book or two.

And, Sunday, the Brooklyn Book Festival!

Posted by: denton at September 12, 2008 6:22 PM

bxgirl: once again I fall victim to your rapier-like wit.
Are there big Barnes and Noble bookstores like this in Crown Heights and beyond? (to infinity and beyond... in the words of a toy spaceman)
I really, really have been all over Brooklyn, admitedly at a fast clip in some areas. But I do not recall big bookstores too much beyond Grand Army Plaza. Tell me I'm wrong again, ...please. I love it when you punish me.

Posted by: sam at September 12, 2008 8:07 PM

I'm not referring just to b&N, why should you? And no- no more conversation with you. I love punishing you too so by not punishing you now I make you suffer more. a win win for me either way :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at September 12, 2008 9:29 PM

sam -it could be pointed out no one ever accused you of having a rapier-like wit. Are the two of you married? Carville and Matalin? S and M?

I digress. the thread was about a serious matter (still loved the Islamic circumcision line, Biff!). I'd be curious to know the answer to east river's question of whether or not there has been more crime reported since the theater and B & N opened?

Posted by: lurker in the mist at September 13, 2008 12:25 AM

"animals"

seriously, some of you deserve to get mugged...

Posted by: travy at September 13, 2008 11:36 AM

there's something inviting and pleasant about those big B&N stores (I admit this reluctantly). the fact is, those kids just don't have anywhere to go after school. there'a a much broader problem here...

Posted by: pfa at September 13, 2008 2:04 PM

ScoyyLee wrote:
"the basic behavioral characteristics of human beings: rational thought, foresight, understanding of the consequences of one's actions, ability to delay gratification for a greater good, etc."

Driving an SUV in full knowledge of the short and long term economic and environmental consequences; buying shit one doesn't need and in the process plundering our natural resources and running up huge personal debt; borrowing or facilitating the borrowing of money against property that can't be afforded in the belief that prices have increased and will thus always do so in the future; - I guess there's a pretty substantial proportion of "animals" in American society at large then, certainly way beyond the confines of B & N or the generational limits of teen-dom.

Posted by: johnife at September 14, 2008 9:12 PM

Do any of you actually live in Brooklyn? Really. This happens in that B&N all the time. I'm sorry the manager got attacked but next time have security do their job. There are two of them in there.

Anyone who call those kids animals should get mugged tomorrow by a bunch of New Millennium High school kids on Wall Street. Then you'll realize kids are kids.

Posted by: DizzyNYC at September 15, 2008 9:52 AM

First of all as pointed there is a security guard in the store at all times. security guards like old fashion night watch people merely call the police when there are problems. they aren't trained as the police and they are not armed and we wouldn't want them to shoot a kid for this even if they were armed. There is generally a cop or two in the immediate area. In fact on Saturday around three there were separate police on the corner of Atlantic and Clinton, Clinton and state, and court and state(inside the movie theater). But of course this isn't a day when kids are in school. I am not sure why there was such a visible police presence.

I don't think this happens in B and N "all the time", but it does happen occasionally. There have been more incidents of people both at the movie theater and in the area from kids leaving the theater. There were less incidents when the movie theater was a porno house but there was someone killed in that theater years ago.

I go to the movie theater and b & N all the time and have had no problems. I have had more problem at a Boston Pops concert.....in Boston..

Posted by: smeyer418 at September 16, 2008 10:03 AM

Dizzy: I totally agree! Kids are kids!

And if i see some kids "disrespectin'" (Gawd, they have no clue, do they?) an adult like that, they are getting a helluva whuppin' from me. Better they learn now that people can defend themselves, rather than assuming they can get away with it.

Posted by: stoep2conquer at September 16, 2008 10:34 AM

This does happen all the time, it's true, teenagers are often thoughtless and make stupid decisions, blame it on hormones or teen angst, they can be destructive and their energy needs to be channeled, and they do need to be directed and disciplined sometimes. But they are just kids, and how they can be called animals is shocking. (actually, that may not be an insult to humans in general, animals can be much more civilized) Did the folks who made those references here skip those years of life? As for all the negative racist comments, cut it out people! This is 2008 and a black man may be in office in a few weeks. Let the ignorance go - grow up or shut up.

Posted by: Kali at September 26, 2008 1:03 PM

Are there no video cameras in the store?

Posted by: richierich at October 22, 2008 3:47 AM

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