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September 17, 2008
House of the Day: 47 Sidney Place
The oddest thing about the new listing for 47 Sidney Place in Brooklyn Heights is the broker the sellers chose to use: Tabak. We can't recall them ever having a Brooklyn listing, and they're not likely to get a whole lot more giving the lame, lazy effort they're making on this two-family house. With a price tag of $5,250,000, you'd think they could take a nice shot of the exterior and include some interior views as well. As it is, it's pretty hard to comment on the pricing. The description makes the house sound pretty fancy schmancy, but without pics there's no way to know whether it's well-done, or just nouveau cheese.
47 Sidney Place [Tabak] GMAP P*Shark
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Not seeing where you get $4,750,000...its $5.25MM in the NYT and the tabak ad
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 1:24 PM
Ok...since you changed it I now look like an idiot and that's never happened on here before!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 1:29 PM
I now look like an idiot and that's never happened on here before!!!!
....Dave, you left yourself wide open on that one!
Posted by: sam at September 17, 2008 1:37 PM
I put it up there to see who would bite. You could have come up with something more creative. But, alas; just like I pointed out on the other thread, the jokes here are getting as lame as all the new SNL stuff.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 1:42 PM
And there's obviously nothing more than speculation to write about the listing given how bad it is so don't all jump on me for off topic stuff. I sent Tabak an email asking where the photos & floorplan was.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 1:44 PM
So, a lesbian, a rabbi and a moose walk into a bar...
Posted by: SnarkSlope at September 17, 2008 1:48 PM
Dave, your post at 1:29 was the funniest thing I've seen here in ages. Personally, I would have no idea what it's like to feel like an idiot on Brownstoner :-)
As for the listing. Why on earth do people cheap out like this on brokers? Especially when trying to move a $5MM+ property in this environment? And would you buy Brooklyn property from a firm whose motto is, "the only company to exclusively sell and lease Real Estate in Tribeca."?
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 1:48 PM
...and which one did Sarah Palin shoot first??? SnarkSlope
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 1:53 PM
5.25mm 6% commission 315k
ok let's say 5% commission and co broke so 131k
Spring for the digital camera and maybe even a website to market this property. Cheapskate.
Posted by: Adam Dahill at September 17, 2008 1:55 PM
I got a reply back from the broker who said he had just listed it and "the photographer will be taking pictures and they will be up soon." The he reminded me of the open house.
So, no help whatsover from Mr. Melnick.
Maybe only 3% Adam.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 2:04 PM
for that kind of price, I hope the prominent lightpole is included!
Posted by: bobbyd at September 17, 2008 2:07 PM
For what it is worth, Sydney Place is a lovely, lovely street in Brooklyn Heights. I would move there in an instant if I could afford it.
Posted by: Schultz at September 17, 2008 2:07 PM
This place would be listed for $325,000 in Wasilla. But to Schult's point, Sydney Place is indeed a beautiful block.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 2:09 PM
It would be about $850,000 in Bed Stuy and that's a hell of a lot closer than Wasilla. 12-15 minutes to Manhattan on the A train "experience"
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 2:12 PM
They're at least $1 million too high in this market. No Brooklyn Heights house has cracked the low 4s in the past 2 years (and those were the peak bubble years) except for a few super primo locations/houses. This is nice but it's not quite there.
Posted by: NorthHeights at September 17, 2008 2:15 PM
I used to live on this block and its great but agreed that the price is not going to fly.
Posted by: wasder at September 17, 2008 2:19 PM
Remember folks...if Barbara had it and it was in Carroll Gardens?
9.5 mil
Fuhgeddaboudit!
Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 17, 2008 2:20 PM
This is not saying: $5.2 Million to me.
It is not as nice as the Moonstruck House and that went
for 4.
They should have used regular old exterior latex on the trim rather than the "self-washing" paint, which streaks and makes a mess.
Better yet, they should have removed the white paint altogether and restored the brownstone trim.
Posted by: sam at September 17, 2008 2:23 PM
I can see Russia from Brooklyn Heights.
Posted by: buttermilk channel at September 17, 2008 2:24 PM
In Wasilla, a comparable home would be more horizontally oriented, clad in aluminum, and perched on wheels and/or cinder blocks. But with the de rigeur meth lab, it would be a more profitable investment than this place.
Posted by: SnarkSlope at September 17, 2008 2:26 PM
I made it a point to never go see a place that didn't have interior pics shown on the website. I didn't care how great the agent described it. I wasn't about to waste my time on speculation.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 2:41 PM
Hey Dave,
I couldn’t stay away from the TV. So last night I watched a PBS special on debates. And they showed the clip of the debate where Bush and Gore were arguing on who was best equipped to utilize the 230billion surplus. Ahhh those were the days!
If McPain wins this house is worth 450K in Brookln Heights. And $5000 in Alaska.
Posted by: 7andfive at September 17, 2008 2:55 PM
For the same price in Mill Basin, you could get this!
http://brownharrisstevens.com/detail.aspx?id=893651
Posted by: Heather at September 17, 2008 3:04 PM
Middle America PBR drinkers and NASCAR goers now have a MILF they can vote for. Thats a sizable block that probably never voted.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:06 PM
WOW Heather...
YOU ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT MILL BASIN LISTING...It's the Dyker Heights house with lipstick!!!!!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:08 PM
Heather, I just clicked on the link. First time in my life I'm absolutely speechless!
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:20 PM
Nice, huh Biff. What the hell is going on in all those rooms. At least there was some tasteful austerity in Dyker Heights.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:22 PM
First off...no making fun of NASCAR, I am a HUGE fan (sorry, can't help it)!
Woah! That house is insane. I don't even know what to say.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:23 PM
Just say YES!
Posted by: SnarkSlope at September 17, 2008 3:24 PM
Yeah, I know...
And in a sick way, if I won the lottery, it would be a toss-up between that and yesterday's HoTD. But I mean, if you have $5MM to spend on a house, why not live like a mafia princess?
Posted by: Heather at September 17, 2008 3:25 PM
This looks like it was designed by Elton John on LSD. I feel like a 3 year-old in an advanced calculus and linear algebra class. I'm staring at the images but don't know what to make of it.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:28 PM
Sorry, I needed a second to compose myself after seeing that. Now I can't stop the questions from forming...
How did they manage to get 4 lots? Did they just buy people out?
What's with the Teal? That's a hell of a lot of Teal.
Do you think that NYC skyline mural (which I am assuming lights up) will go in the parlor of my 1890's townhome and if so where can I get one?
Can you say Crystal??
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:29 PM
THL... I own 2 hot rods and a 442...I'm not judging them. I also have had a few PBRs in the last few years as well
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:29 PM
Nice! You should buy this house then Dave it's got 4, count 'em, 4 garages!
It looks like it should be the set of a porn movie, right? Anyone recognize it?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:32 PM
I spotted a Menorah in the bedroom so we now know where the money came from PropJoe.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:34 PM
Debbie Does Dallas?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:35 PM
THL, I completely missed the skyline mural. But this is like watching a movie like Memento. Each time it is viewed, one finds new things that were originally missed. Regarding your porn reference, I could swear this place was featured in the '70s classic Milly Does Mill Basin.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:40 PM
I just admire the bold use of marble and floating staircases. Do you think those marble floors are heated?
Posted by: Heather at September 17, 2008 3:44 PM
Dave, a menorah? Now I'm thinking this place was used to film Mitzi's Honor.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:45 PM
"Magnificent is an understatement for this home extraordinaire" who writes this crap?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:47 PM
Memento, one of my favs.
Know what? This has both a Chandaleer AND a Marble Cawlumn!
Heather, I can not express my gratitude! Seriously, I get way too much pleasure out of looking at houses like this. You made my day!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:47 PM
They have to be Heather since it was...
"Built with uncompromised quality this home will exceed all your expectations."
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:48 PM
Dave, upon further inspection, I'm beginning to think that isn't a menorah after all. I believe it's a coin-operated fireworks launcher.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:50 PM
Dave give the agent a call and say, I'd like to make an appointment to view the home extraordinaire please.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:50 PM
Have you ever been to Bangkok and seen the "sparklers show" Biff??? It usually comes after the ping pong balls!!!!
See Tabac...if you had posted pics and a floorplan and had a reputable listing this thread would not have degenerated into this kind of stuff. Serves you and your client right.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 3:52 PM
Heather speaks French. Perhaps she should call the agent, although I'm fairly certain anybody who uses the phrase "home extraordinaire" has never spoken French in his / her life.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:53 PM
I think Tabac is breathing a sigh of relief the pressure is off the Sidney Place listing.
Dave, yes, I've been to Bangkok (and Phuket and Chiang Mai). I recall losing a game of darts to a bar girl one night whose dart releasing technique cannot be described here without risking getting permanently banned from posting.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 3:57 PM
Now you don't have to go all the way to Bangkok you can just head over to Mill Basin.
I can't wait to show my husband "our new house" when he get's home.
I regret that I have to leave you all (and this brilliant listing) since I have to get a roast into the oven.
Thanks again Heather!
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 3:58 PM
How many knew what a 'salamander' (in the kitchen) is? "cooking device with an overhead heat source like a broiler"
Boohoo, I want one!
Posted by: cmu at September 17, 2008 4:03 PM
You guys are killing me.
"This looks like it was designed by Elton John on LSD. I feel like a 3 year-old in an advanced calculus and linear algebra class. I'm staring at the images but don't know what to make of it."
Biff, you win, although the rest of you gave him a run for the money. You all made my day.
I looked up conspicuous consumption, and this listing was right there. Wow. How horrifically overdone.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 17, 2008 4:23 PM
Er- hate to throw a wrench in the works but that's not a menorah. A menorah would have 8 candle holders, 1 for each of the 7 days of the week and one more to hold the candle that lights them (losing brain cells- can't recall the Hebrew name for it). And they aren't exhibited year round on an end table. We keep them in our grandmothers oversized walnut buffet with the tacky china and the pesach plate a family friend "regifted" us with. I think this is a kwaanza candelabra.
Omigod, I can't believe I am engaging in a debate about the ethnicity of candle holders.'scuse folks- I need a drink.
Other than that, I find this house to be tasteful and understated.The subtle use of color and the right on target accessorizing really show what a good stager can do with very little.
Posted by: bxgrl at September 17, 2008 4:40 PM
bxgrl, you're right. This home will bring out the minimalist-seeking buyer. My only complaint is the plain wooden cutting board on the counter in the kitchen; it's completely out of context. A sequine-laced, leather-bordered marble cutting board shaped like a Travelocity gnome would be so much more appropriate.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 4:49 PM
Now with the salamander (I rally have alwasy wanted one)it all makes sense -- if only it had TOTOs!
Posted by: BH76 at September 17, 2008 4:52 PM
bxgirl, I think the waterbug has made you lose the few brain cells you were trying to hold on to. A menorah has seven candles, the object in the bedstand is most definitely a menorah. A plain, understated menorah I might add, the kind I saw in shops in St. Petersburg a few years back. (Kwansa, yeah right. Ha ha.)
I actually like the pool.
Posted by: sam at September 17, 2008 4:56 PM
Oh no!!!! Just when I thought the thread had been upgraded to some serious discussion here we go with the toilet talk now!!!
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 4:57 PM
I've been so busy working today, this is what I miss..darn.
Between the pics of the roach and the Mill Basin house...my stomach and eyes can't take any more.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 17, 2008 4:59 PM
Oh biff- you are so right. And I also noticed there was a blank space on one of the living room walls which really is a design faux pas for this place.
BH76- TOTO is still in Kansas. Perhaps CUJO would be an acceptable replacement. You know, when all those bad foods you ate come back to bite you on the ass? (apologies to biff- you do this so much better than I).
Posted by: bxgrl at September 17, 2008 5:01 PM
Ceilings that sore 30' = 30' walls.
And not one inch left bare.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 17, 2008 5:02 PM
I just posted this under the QOTD, but will repost here since this seems to be where all the fun is happening:
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Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 5:03 PM
DAMN spelling
Sore = Soar
But I think in this case, SORE is more appropriate.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 17, 2008 5:05 PM
Do I dare say it, but the pool and pool area is nice, except for the fact that you have a view of the house.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 17, 2008 5:06 PM
I can't believe that no one is mentioning the global financial meltdown and its effect on the bklyn real estate market. No way can these prices hold...
Posted by: xanadu at September 17, 2008 5:07 PM
xanadu, you must be a lot of fun at parties.
bayridgegirl, the pool area is ok. I think it's just missing a little something. But nothing a skyline, a wooden horse, menorah or some crystal wouldn't fix.
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 17, 2008 5:10 PM
xanadu...the global financial meltdown is out of your control..and also taking a breather now until Japan opens tonight at 8:00.
Concentrate on something that you can have a real effect on like the decorationg touches of this Mill Basin monstrocity.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 5:16 PM
sam- well- we're both right and both wrong.
"# Menorah (Hanukkah), a nine-branched candelabrum used on Hanukkah
# Menorah (Temple), a seven branched candelabrum used in the Temple in Jerusalem"
Two different types. However the 7 branch menorah is used in temples- not on a nightstand at home. The 9 branch menorah is used in Jewish homes to celebrate Chanukah. I was off by one day - forgot the story for a moment.
In any case, that candleabra is not an indication of what religion the homeowners are. So obviously I still have plenty of brain cells left (certainly more than you do).
Posted by: bxgrl at September 17, 2008 5:16 PM
So does this mean that whenever we find the HOTD uninteresting we just revolt and post our own?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 5:23 PM
Its not that the HOTD was uninteresting; its just that we weren't given ANY information to assess its value. None of us would want to make snap judgements and snarky comments that would be ill-informed here.
The HOTD discussion should be the one sacrosanct thread on brownstoner that maintains the integrity of the discussion of real estate.
Are we all in agreement?
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 5:28 PM
So THL that would be a YES.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 5:28 PM
Is it just me or does the floral wallpaper and bedding look out of place in this house?
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 5:29 PM
agreed
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 5:30 PM
I would love to be able to have a bed underneath those skylights listening to the rain. I'm actually being serious here. I remember the rain on the tin roof outside my bedroom when I was young.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at September 17, 2008 5:32 PM
So, is this house worth the ask?
Brown, how about a THOD..Tacky House of the Day, they seem to generate alot of great posts.
Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 17, 2008 5:35 PM
all I can say about the price is that The What was really on to something.
Posted by: xanadu at September 17, 2008 5:39 PM
Right on Dave. It would be nice to look up and see the moon on those clear nights as well.
We have a skylight over the stairwell and another in the upper floor bathroom with the tin vents in the peak of each. I remember how when we first moved in how loud it sounded when it would rain. Now it's soothing.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at September 17, 2008 5:46 PM
whoa! bxgirl, you are messing with my head.
First the picture of the waterbug, then the mabble cawlums, now you are trying to tell me that a menorah has nine candles? so in your house, you had nine days of Chanukah? I am begining to suspect that you are not a good jew.
But that's OK, I'm not a good Protestant (although at least I know there are forty days in lent and twelve days of christmas).
Posted by: sam at September 17, 2008 6:43 PM
sam- don't make me break out the reading comprehension comment. I'll have to pay myself royalties.
If you bothered to read- 8 days of Chanukah. The 9th candle, the shamash, is used to light the others so a true chanukah menorah has NINE.
I guess that makes me a better Jew than you are a Protestant. Or at least my reading comprehension is better :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at September 17, 2008 7:02 PM
Sam, I don't think most Protestants observe Lent. That's a Roman thing, (although held on to by Anglicans and some Lutherans). You can get drummed out of the club for a faux-pas like that. ;)
We can't have a Tacky House of the Day, sadly. As Dave said, that would make us judgemental and would elicit snarky remarks, something that never happens on this site. Ever.
Posted by: Montrose Morris at September 17, 2008 7:12 PM
well, MM...nuts! grumble...grumble...@#$$*(#&@...snark, snark...
(Just my sam imitation)
Posted by: bxgrl at September 17, 2008 7:20 PM
WOW. I missed all the comments today. I was too busy with the crumbling stock market and mortgage applications out the ying yang. Enough about me.
I love how the Mill Basin house stole this thread.
one word.
LIBERACE!!!
I don't have any other words to describe and I just had my neighbors come over to look at the photos of this house. Probably one of my all time favorites.
I have an appraisal of a 12 million dollar penthouse in Las Vegas that rivals this. It has real flames that come out of the door frame when you walk thorugh them. Do you think brownstoner will let me post photos of it? The owner sold the place so I don't feel it would be inapropriate to post the pics. You got to see this penthouse.
Posted by: Adam Dahill at September 17, 2008 8:25 PM
"However the 7 branch menorah is used in temples- not on a nightstand at home"
You don't get it, bxgrl. Obviously this home IS a temple.
Posted by: cmu at September 17, 2008 11:36 PM
This huge house is owned by the Falco family - not Jewish. Their house is on Ave W between E68th and E69th right near their construction biz on 69th. Oh, and it's not Mill Basin, it's Bergen Beach which is the neighborhood immediately to the west.
I can't imagine who will buy this place cause the mob is dead and the rich Russians, Israelis et al want to live amongst their own in Mill Basin. Fwiw, there are no Syrians here in the Basin.
Posted by: pattunia at September 18, 2008 1:32 AM
ohhhh, damn! How did I miss that cmu? Of course- er....just not sure a temple to what. well, at lest we know now why its not a menorah. thanks pattunia! :-)
Posted by: bxgrl at September 18, 2008 9:04 AM
Not Jewish and not in Mill Basin? Ok, so maybe we say this one featured in Bertie Does Bergen Beach?
Posted by: Biff Champion at September 18, 2008 9:41 AM
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