Co-op of the Day: 40 Prospect Park West, #6K

This is like the size of my apt and my apt. is not nearly worth this, but, I'm in Bay Ridge.

I like all the closets, and the 4-fixture bathroom, but not the bathroom itself, tiles, sink, tub, etc.. I don't like the kitchen either....but, hey, the apt is in MIC.

This will sell and fast at this price.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 1:04 PM

I'm not trying to defend the apt...but I live in a very sim. apt. and my second bedroom is off the living room (we use it as an office).
The living room is still fairly large. It's 21'x13', if someone needs more space for a living room, their furniture is HUGE. I have two different seating groups in my living room of the same size.
The dining area in this apt. is 12'x9.5'..you can get a table for six in there.

The smaller bedroom is not small by NYC standards. The size is fine for a child, even a teenager or a home office. Ikea has great closets - PAX...I have three.

This apt. can be really sweet and the location is great...view of the park can't be beat.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 1:31 PM

For a young family, this apt. is great.
One bathroom is not going to be an issue.

Biff, we had 48 people over once for hubby's birthday..and a clown...and nobody was waiting on line to use the bathroom. Everybody doesn't crap at the same time.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 1:57 PM

and a magician!!
everybody was in the living room watching the magic happen. Sure people were sitting on top of each other, but it was a good time.

BTW....I highly recommend the magician and clown, if anybody needs.

FYI - I don't think the clown used my bathroom.

I really like this apt, cause it reminds me of mine :)

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 2:44 PM

Biff, great idea!

Partial views of the park...hhmmm. Still a good price and will sell.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 3:35 PM

Each toilet needs its own waste. Which go back to the building's main waste line. The building's main waste line is probably near the existing toilet. So new toilet needs to be near there. Don't think that you can put a toilet 10' away from the main waste line! There are pitching issues.

Also, co-ops tend to disapprove a wet area over a dry area below.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 11, 2008 5:40 PM

bayridgegirl, have you ever known anyone that added a second toilet on the same soil pipe, or waste line? In old apartment buildings, it is usually one connection per floor per line. I wonder if it would be pemissable by code to have to connections on the same floor? Probably not.

Sam - not sure I understand what you mean, but here goes.
There is a main waste line that runs vertically through a building. When you flush a toilet, the stuff goes out of your toilet through a pipe to the main waste line.

If your toilet is father way from the main waste line, then there is a horizontal pipe connecting your toilet waste line to the main waste line.

Here's some photos (the best I can find with out spending a lot of time looking. This from UK, but it works the same.

http://www.apollo-plus.co.uk/wet2.htm

If you look at the picture labled 'shower drain', you can see the black pipe running vertically in the corner, that's the main waste line. If your toilet is near there, then you just have a waste pipe going from your toilet to the main.

If your toilet is further away from the main. Look at the photo labeled 'plumbing'. They branched off from the main waste (the grey pipe). The toilet waste will go from the toilet to the 'grey' horizontal pipe to the main vertical waste pipe. You can add multiple toilets on that 'horizontal' waste line. Think of a public restroom, where there's alot of toilets.
Usually, these pipes are done in the slab (area between the floor and ceiling below).

In a apartment, if you are adding a toilet, it's the same concept. However, working in the slab is near impossible, you need access from below. Yes, asking your neighbor to rip up their ceiling to gain access to the existing plumbing or to add new. It's done all the time, you pay for all expenses and have to bring neighbors ceiling back to original condition.

Another option, is to do what was done in the photos, and have a the veritical waste run above the floor (in your space), you are then limited to using a rear discharge toilet. (the waste goes out the back of the toilet, not the bottom) - Look at photo labeled 'Design', you see the pipe connecting the toilet to the step up they created to cover the pipes.

This is very commen in NYC buildings, because you can do all the work from above (your space). No asking your neighbor to get into their ceiling.

Their are limits how far you can be from the main vertical waste, because of pitching the horizontal pipe. I just did 4 bathrooms this way (they were back to back). I think the furthest we were, was 12' (don't quote me on that). It was very diffucult, but the plumber made it work (and I just gave you guys a glimpse into what I do).

Also, there are different types of rear discharge toilets. there is a floor mounted rear discharge (the discharge tends to only be 4" above the floor). This won't work if you are far from the main. You need a higher waste. There are wall hung toilets, where the discharge is heigher up and the carrier is in the wall. (You're wall behind the toilet then needs to be deep to accomodate).

There are many types of rear discharge toilets with the carriers in the wall. This is one of my favorite toilets to use for wall hung (traditional) residential. The waste discharge is about 9" high. $700-800 not inculding the carrier

http://www.duravit.com/products/series/happy-d./toilets/toilet-wall-mounted--017109_toilets_92948_useo6q3rqe.html

Carrier
http://www.geberit.us/catalog/cis/inwall_list.php?inwall_name=Wall-hung%20Washdown%20Toilets

Hope this helps, sorry for the long winded post.

BTW, I see no way of adding another bathoom to this apt.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at September 12, 2008 2:21 PM