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September 9, 2008

Brooklyn's Dangerous Intersections

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The tragic death of an eight-year-old boy on Saturday, who was struck by a car on Adams and Livingston Streets while riding his bike with his dad, is raising awareness about the dangers of downtown streets to bicyclists and pedestrians. The Brooklyn Eagle reports that "residents wonder if a solution for a gauntlet of deadly Downtown intersections will ever be found." The non-profit Transportation Alternatives has compiled statistics for the area, showing that 39 people (28 pedestrians and 11 bicyclists) were hit by motor vehicles at that same spot from 1995 to 2005. "A half a block east on Livingston Street, eight pedestrians were struck during the same time period; one of them died. A block north, at the notorious Adams/Livingston/Fulton Street intersection, 32 people were struck and injured," they write. "A few steps away, at Adams and Willoughby, 11 people were hit. Next to this, at Fulton and Willoughby, one more. At Fulton near Red Hook Lane, another one." We have 150 miles of bicycle lanes in Brooklyn, with many more in progress, and the DOT instituted a six-month trial of a new downtown traffic plan beginning in June, hoping to ameliorate the recurring issue. Clearly, though, it's not enough. One Brooklynite has been lobbying for a pedestrian overpass to curve over Adams Street, so pedestrians and bicyclists can avoid it altogether.
Another Victim of Downtown Traffic [Brooklyn Eagle]




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As an everyday bike rider, I'll never understand bike lanes near highway entrances/ exits.
Especially when near any traffic hour(morning or evening) cars are very aggressive to
get onto these ramps, creating very dangerous nearby intersections.
Note* the intersection leading to the entrance of the Manhattan bridge on the Bklyn side is a death trap in the morning and evening..

Posted by: TDO at September 9, 2008 10:39 AM

Class action against the City by family members of those who were killed? Money is a good motivator for change.

Posted by: MacD at September 9, 2008 10:40 AM

I ride onto the Manhattan Bridge several days a week.

It isn't so bad, but a simple solution would be to have a light mediate the intersection such that traffic waits on the ramp before merging onto Jay Street.

Personally, I have WAY more trouble with the fools double-parking on Jay Street for the various remedial education institutions there than anything else. It's also really spectacular when a double-parking fool decides to make a U-turn.

It's lawless out there. Get bright lights and carry a big chain.

Posted by: Polemicist at September 9, 2008 10:49 AM

Every day I pass the 'death corner' of Fulton and Flatbush (and Nevins). The traffic pattern is set up so that cars make this huge left turn from Flatbush on to Fulton and pedestrians cannot see them coming since they are walking away from the oncoming cars. Also the light known to be is short, and cars speed through red lights to make the turn in time. I have seen many near accidents, and a few ambulances.

If they posted a good traffic cop there, they could catch at least 1 violation every 60 seconds. While DOT has posted a traffic cop before, they just stand around talking to vendors and eating dunkin donuts and I have not seen one in months. DOT just does not care.

Also, bicyclists should be given a ticket if they are riding on the sidewalk. I grew up in Manhattan and the cops used to make me get off my bike (at 10 yrs old) and ride in the street.

By law, pedestrians always have the right of way. Unfortunately, no one seems to believe that anymore.

Posted by: Knickerbocker at September 9, 2008 11:11 AM

I ride often as well and while the bike lanes are a great option, bikers constantly have to avoid yahoos double parking in the bike lanes or as I've witnessed on several occasions, using the bike lane to pass slower (read: driving the speed limit) vehicles.

Also, getting into Prospect Park via Grand Army Plaza from Prospect Heights or Park Slope can be dangerous, but for the most part it is just frustrating-one has to cross a street a minimum of three times just to enter the park. Next week begins a public art installation of the Rethinking Grand Army Plaza project—this area,like so many others in the city can become significantly more pedestrian and biker friendly; let's hope that some good ideas are actually seen through to fruition.

Posted by: Fjorder at September 9, 2008 11:18 AM

Absolute tragedy.....seriously can not imagine the horror of being that father.

I also can not imagine allowing my 8 yr old child (with me or not) to ride his bicycle on Adams, Livingston or virtually any other street in downtown brooklyn (except maybe some in BH).

I also think that for the most part (and having nothing to do with this article or tragedy) that the vast majority of bike riders in this city are a bunch of self-entitled, arrogant pricks, who love to complain (rightly) about the recklessness and insensitivity of the average driver but fail to see the same behavior in their own ranks.

-Stop lights are mandatory for bikers and automobiles
-Sidewalks are for people
-(while I am sympathetic that too many people are oblivious to the bike lane on the Brooklyn Bridge) It is not appropriate to drive 30 miles an hour when you are inches from pedestrians (this is the equivalent of putting a bike lane on a lane of the NJ Turnpike) and when pedestrians occasionally HAVE to step into the bike lane due to the narrow pathway. - And when a SINGLE bike rider actually stops at the MANDATORY x-walk at the bridge entrances - maybe I wont think you are all a$$holes for screaming at pedestrians who dare stray 'over the line'

In NYC Biker=Self-Righteous f^cks! (true most auto drivers are just f^cks)

Posted by: fsrg at September 9, 2008 11:18 AM

Every day that I cross Boerum at Livingston I feel like I just made it through another minefield. Yesterday two cars went through a red light, around a bus that was turnng and and narrowly missed pedestrians crossing Livingston with the light. That is typical.

Knowing how dangerous our streets are, I am constantly dumbfounded by people riding bikes with small children. Parents who would never let pre-teen walk alone have them on bikes going through city traffic! No one can protect a child who is on a bike on a street. You can't hold their hand, pull them from danger. So why do these people do it? I see no good reason -- you have a child so take the subway! And walk your child to a park to ride a bike!

Posted by: BH76 at September 9, 2008 11:21 AM

I walk through all these intersections multiple times each week and am amazed at some of the irresponsible pedestrians I see: stepping off the curb halfway into the lanes, ignoring the signals when the buses make their turns, playing chicken with speeding cars as they hopscotch from median strip to median strip. I certainly do see lots of bad driving but there's some stupid foot traffic out there too. I'm all in favor of traffic cops to monitor the chaos but I'd ask them to ticket equally, drivers and pedestrians.

Posted by: zeebee_in_bklyn at September 9, 2008 11:23 AM

class action suits against the city? your insane. the problem with everyone is a lack of responsibility. i see it on both sides. as polemicist said there are just foolish drivers, but i see so many either bold or stupid bikers who ride like warriors and expect that every driver is going to see them.

im a biker, but a driver too (daily from bklyn to jersey) and realize how difficult it is to pay attention to all the madness going on with traffic and other drivers, which means its all that much harder to see bikers suddenly darting in and out of traffic. and when its a dark, bright, or rainy day? forget it.

Posted by: goldie at September 9, 2008 11:37 AM

Yes, yes, bikers are assholes, pedestrians don't look where they're going, etc, etc. But the reason people die is because cars don't yield when they are supposed to. They run red lights and they park in bike lanes. DOT can design streets and intersections to be as people-friendly as possible -- and frankly in this case they've done about as good a job as can be expected, with bike lanes the whole length of Adams and protected left-turn lanes with dedicated signals. But the cops don't enforce any of the rules and so chaos prevails. The bike lanes are mostly unusable (when I ride toward the bridge, I usually do so in the express lanes because the bike lane is *always* blocked in front of the Marriott and the high school). Cars speed and jockey for position and don't give way to pedestrians with a walk sign (particularly bad is the cross walk across Atlantic on the east side). Delivery trucks and placard holders park wherever they want with total immunity, creating dangerous blindspots and bottlenecks.

Frankly, the only thing that's going to change any of this is a cultural shift in the NYPD. Oh, and congestion pricing probably would have helped.

Posted by: zgori at September 9, 2008 12:00 PM

goldie - why would that be insane? the problem isn't just a "lack of responsibility." it's a lack of complying with traffic laws, and a failure of the NYPD to enforce them. you can bet that if the NYPD starting making violators feel the consequences, then they'd start complying.

and i agree that, on occasion, bikers or pedestrians do some silly things. but their numbers and the consequences of what they do by far pale in comparison to the numbers of and potential harm caused by drivers of gigantic hunks of steel barreling down flatbush. if you find it too "difficult" to pay attention to other street users, maybe you shouldn't be behind the wheel?

Posted by: i disagree at September 9, 2008 12:14 PM

a bicyclist going through a red light is more like jaywalking than anything else. bikers should stop and wait at every red light to the same extent that a walker should (in other words, they shouldn't).

a bicyclist should regard a red light like a stop sign, much as a pedestrian does. a stop sign should be treated like a yield sign.

Posted by: ell442 at September 9, 2008 12:17 PM

I happened to be walking down BK Bridge Blvd (or Adam, or whatever) about 2 minutes after the collision. The ambulance was there, but cops were still trying to divert traffic from the accident. All we saw was a cop walking with the father (and we saw the smashed kid's bike), so what we imagined is what actually happened. Horrible. Parents shouldn't outlive their kids.

Posted by: broadwayron at September 9, 2008 12:26 PM

ell442 - have you ever been hit as a pedestrian by a bicyclist going at full speed....the consequences can be life threatening

Posted by: fsrg at September 9, 2008 12:35 PM

First, everyone should obey the laws of the road. Drivers, bikers and pedestrians all have a responsibility.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way cars and trucks have a greater responsibility to get it right. Why? Because motor vehicles can crush you. End of discussion. I routinely see the most asinine maneuvers by NYC drivers. Calm the f**K down with the the driving. I'm afraid for myself in my own car with these idiots on the streets let alone on my bike.

The city needs to put up or shut up. Enforce the laws with some traffic cops. Build some real bike lanes that work for cyclists like in Copenhagen for instance. Start a real dialogue with the residents of this city to create awareness on these issues.

Take a look at the photos of the accident scene of the boy that was struck down. He clearly had the right of way when that truck took a right turn and killed him on the bike path.
http://www.wnbc.com/news/17412783/detail.html

Sincerest condolences to the family of Alexander Toulouse for their loss.

Posted by: pensnyc at September 9, 2008 12:38 PM

I bike regularly on Eastern Parkway and in Prospect Park. Sunday I saw the Transportation Alternatives ride on Eastern Parkway. Many were unaware the reason Eastern Parkway was on their route was because if its dedicated bike lane on the south median. Transportation alternatives promotes safe and legal riding but needs to inform its riders to follow the rules. I've decided to join the organization this week in order to participate and encourage rational behavior among cyclists. I agree that many cyclists disregard the traffic rules, and especially in these kinds of organized rides, does no service to the cause.

Pedestrians, cyclists, and motorists would benefit from a massive media/education blitz that explicitly states rights and responibilities, and the law.

Posted by: Hal at September 9, 2008 12:43 PM

if the cyclist stops at the stop light before proceeding, as i advocated in my post, there would not be an increased likelihood of hitting a pedestrian.

i am just trying to put an end to this ridiculous fiction that anything that happens to a cyclist who disobeys a red light is his fault.

and, for the record, i have never been hit by a cyclist going full speed. once, however, i hit a pedestrian who stepped from between two cars into a bike lane, knocking the both of us down, me into traffic. it goes both ways.

Posted by: ell442 at September 9, 2008 12:43 PM

Let me add that in no way does my post mean to suggest any fault by the 8 year old or his father. I was hit on Vanterbilt and Dean in April while following the rules and riding safely. Similarly to the above accident, the driver failed to yeild to me in the bike path through the intersection.

Posted by: Hal at September 9, 2008 12:53 PM

R.I.P. Alexander. R.I.P.

Posted by: Ahh beer at September 9, 2008 1:15 PM

pensnyc:

You are absolutely right, the biggest problem is the aggressive nature of many drivers. Personally, I'm glad summer is coming to an end. It brings out the serious craziness in drivers.

People think I'm crazy for biking in the winter, but unless there is snow on the ground - it is by far the safest time to ride. Everyone is just so much more calm.

You can't stop it entirely though. I've read a couple studies on the issue, and the best theory I've read is the confined, personal nature of an automobile leads drivers to incorrectly construe any impediment - traffic, cyclists, pedestrians, even read lights - as a violation of their personal space. Aggressive driving is best explained as neurotic territoriality.

This is one of the reasons driving has to be discouraged. It will never change.

Posted by: Polemicist at September 9, 2008 1:16 PM

My heart goes out to the family and friend of Alexander Toulouse. Sincerest, sincerest sympathies.

To reiterate, cars and other motorized vehicles are far, far more deadly than bikes or pedestrians. The burden is on drivers to excercise extreme caution.

Posted by: Brooklyn Chicken at September 9, 2008 1:19 PM

"a bicyclist going through a red light is more like jaywalking than anything else"

Thats absolute crap. Have you seen a biker hit a hapless 70 year old crossing with the light? I have, and the results are shocking. I am pro-biking, I think it makes the city a better place, but bicyclists should be ticketed when they disobey key road rules just like car drivers should be.

On another note, I can barely ready this story without feeling sick in the pit of my stomach. I was already trying to recover from reading this morning about some Brownsville family whose baby suffocated while sleeping after getting caught between the bottom of a crib and a mattress attached to it.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 9, 2008 1:29 PM

This area is just a crazy traffic mess. You see every kind of potential trouble. U-turns. Cars turning onto streets from two directions simultaneously. On top of everything else, the cop car parades seem to kick off in the area. Some days there are just tons of cop cars who seem to think that a little toot on their siren is all the need to illegally go through a red light. And the cops that are paid to direct traffic don't seem to want to leave the shady spots where they plant themselves. Ultimately the only way to sort it out is reduce the number of motor vehicles.

Posted by: Beau Guest at September 9, 2008 1:37 PM

"I also can not imagine allowing my 8 yr old child (with me or not) to ride his bicycle on Adams, Livingston or virtually any other street in downtown brooklyn (except maybe some in BH)."-fsrg

I'm guessing you can't imagine it because you're a jackass. Let's hope that no one callously blames the victim if something similarly tragic and undeserved should happen to you, (and it shouldn't).

If you resent occasionally sharing the sidewalk with cyclists, you should support the spread and enforcement of bike lanes, congestion pricing, and any other effort to make the streets safer for cyclists. I always prefer to ride in the street, but at certain intersections, (where the motorists like to pretend they're starring in Death Race 2000), the cyclist's choice is either a quick hop on the sidewalk or death.

Posted by: dannyhellman at September 9, 2008 2:07 PM

I'm on this one with dittoberg and fsrq. As pro bike as I am, bike riders need to get a grip on their egos. Save the planet won't do much when you're sending pedestrians to the hospital. A few weeks ago I watched a father with 2 very young kids biking down the street. The kids were on bikes behind the father- he couldn't see them. How much sense does that make? None to me.

I've been nearly hit, I've been yelled at on the Brooklyn Bridge when the subways were flooded and thousands of people had to walk across the bridge to work. the pedestrian lane wasn't wide enough to hold us all, yet bikers kept shouting and zipping by, nearly causing several accidents.

I think it's horribly sad a child was killed. I can't even address it- its such a painful thing. Kids and animals- can't stand to see them hurt.

The roads need an overhaul, the rules need an overhaul, more importantly drivers, bikers and pedestrians need an overhaul.but frankly, whether or not you're hit by a 200 pound guy on a bike, or a 2 ton vehicle, the effects are equally deadly so saying one or the other as more to blame is foolish.

Posted by: east river at September 9, 2008 2:09 PM

Brooklyn drivers have gotten much worse over the past ten years. You really don't know how bad it's gotten unless you're a bicyclist or a motorcyclist. I've all but stopped riding motorcycles in the city because it's gotten so dangerous with all the idiot drivers.

In addition to a shameless lack of law enforcement against dangerous drivers (the PD seems to be mostly interested in "crackdowns" these days), I blame cell phones and the mentality of invincibility of SUV drivers in general. I'd like to get all of the latter out of their steel cocoons and on the street on a push bike for a week s so they can see the threat that hotdogging SUV drivers are to the public.

That said, what possessed this parent to put his eight year-old on a bicycle in heavy avenue traffic, especially around Livingston and Adams where pedestrians and bikers get hit all the time? A friend of mine spent three months in the hospital after she was hit by an off duty cop at Tillary and Adams, and she's an experienced Motorcycle Safety Foundation instructor. That's about as irresponsible as it gets for a parent. The city lets kids up to 12 years-old ride their bikes on the sidewalk for a good reason.

Posted by: Steve at September 9, 2008 2:18 PM

Maybe bicyclists should learn to get off and walk their damn bikes on the sidewalk, instead of riding in between pedestrians and acting like the sidewalk is their own personal indy500 race track?

fsrq wasn't out of line- especially in reference to Adams. It's a huge roadway- people zipping off the bridge at high speed, huge amounts of traffic in both directions. A little reality here. It's dangerous. No one is blaming the father- no way. but if I had a kid, like fsqr, I wouldn't have him- or me- bike riding there. The city is stupid to even put bike lanes on major thoroughfares like that. Sorry- there it is. On high speed roadways, bike lanes are stupid. Riding a bike in the middle of high speed traffic is asking for trouble.

Posted by: east river at September 9, 2008 2:22 PM

"On high speed roadways, bike lanes are stupid. Riding a bike in the middle of high speed traffic is asking for trouble."

Agreed. The high-speed roadway should be eliminated.

Posted by: zgori at September 9, 2008 2:31 PM


"Pedestrians, cyclists, and motorists would benefit from a massive media/education blitz that explicitly states rights and responibilities, and the law."

I think Hal said it all. As a biker (biked daily to work from Prospect Heights to Midtown from 1991-1998), pedestrian (now taking subway to work) AND automobile owner, I don't think any single party bears more responsibility than the other. We're all making mistakes, and we all have to get it together.

Posted by: East New York at September 9, 2008 2:53 PM

Can we have an anti-litterbug campaign as well?

That new picture is too much for me. Can't you put the old one back.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 9, 2008 3:01 PM

That photo is -over the top- and in extreme poor taste.

Its like the suicide photo from last month in Brooklyn Heights with the bloody knife, can't remember the paper.

Change the picture back. Thats just disrespectful to the family.

Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 9, 2008 3:27 PM

Agree. Picture too much. RIP Alexander!

Posted by: Ahh beer at September 9, 2008 3:54 PM

disagree. the explicit nature of the photo conveys the seriousness of the issue in a way that words alone could not. we're talking about kids getting killed in traffic -- why sugarcoat it?

Posted by: z at September 9, 2008 4:09 PM

Because everyone is already appalled that it happened, and have stated so above. The picture doesn't convince anyone any more, its just ghastly.

Posted by: dittoburg at September 9, 2008 4:14 PM

As a cyclist, cardriver and parent, I find this photo insensitive and tacky.
Changing the photo does not sugarcoat it, it respects the family.

Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 9, 2008 4:35 PM

Apologies. We replaced the photo.

Posted by: brownstoner at September 9, 2008 5:26 PM

Thanks

Posted by: dittoburg at September 9, 2008 5:59 PM

Thanks, as well.

Ironically I am 100% anti censorship.
But I'm all for maintaining dignity and resisting the exploitation of a minor's death. That photo pushed the limits.

Posted by: Prodigal_Son at September 9, 2008 7:12 PM

Is automobile traffic as inevitable as rain? Will we let our children be run down in the streets, like dogs?

Why does nobody blame the driver, who apparently failed to yield to a young cyclist who had the right-of-way? Not even a measly $25 ticket? I know he felt bad, as he should have, but he broke the law, and it led to a death. In my book, that's manslaughter. Did anyone check his cell phone records? Was he on the phone when the accident happened? Certainly seems like a lot of people driving in downtown Brooklyn are talking on their phones, even though it's the equivalent of driving after 3 drinks.

Why does nobody blame the DOT, who in the interest in auto-efficiency, won't take a lane away so that there's a true protected bike lane on Adams Street? Is one death worth saving a few seconds for people who should be taking public transportation anyway, who are just too cheap to pay the tolls on the Battery Tunnel, where they wouldn't even have the option to run down helpless pedestrians and cyclists.

And why blame the Dad? Wasn't he riding on a city-provided bike path on a Saturday? Perhaps he was going to the protected bike path on the Brooklyn Bridge. Isn't the city encouraging us to cycle. This same accident could easily have happened if they were crossing the street as pedestrians.

This is a horrible tragedy, but it doesn't have to be this way. In other countries, they target ZERO pedestrian and cyclist deaths, and they are succeeding. In Europe, you are 1/3 as likely to die in an accident as a pedestrian or cyclist, and many more people cycle. Here, we don't seem to care.

Enough!


Posted by: carfreenation at September 9, 2008 9:22 PM

Amen, carfreenation. I'm not anti-car by any means but it's clear to me that at least 1/4 of the drivers currently on American roads shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel, ever.

There's a personal responsibility disconnect with cars that we don't find with anything else. We even call them "accidents", as if collisions aren't the result of careless or inept drivers but a roll of the metaphysical dice.

Let's say the guy driving that car was instead carelessly cleaning his gun and it fired, killing the same kid. Would he get off? Hell, no. He'd likely be charged with reckless endangerment if not involuntary manslaughter.

Four years ago, a female acquaintance was killed on her motorcycle in Red Hook by a truck running a stop sign. The driver didn't have a license either. He got a ticket for "failure to yield".

Nevertheless, I do blame dad. NYC streets are what they are, not what we'd like them to be. "Rights" aren't a bulletproof vest. Putting a little kid on a bicycle on a busy avenue, bike lane or not, is simply being ignorant of the reality of the danger out there.

Posted by: Steve at September 9, 2008 10:55 PM

I've often wondered why drunk drivers get off so easily too. And steve does make a good point- the father bears some responsibility which I am sure is causing him great pain.

I don't want to say give the driver a pass- and I am not -, but there is another part of the reality. Driving a car demands focus but think of how visually distracting a NYC street is. It's hard enough to keep track of the cars around you, the lights, the pedestrians. But then add in bike riders, who are far smaller and more agile than cars, and don't necessarily wear bright colored clothing that could catch your eye. It's almost like camouflage- in daylight, bike riders can be less visible than at night when they're using reflective clothing and bike lights.

bike riders also seem to think that because they are in a bike lane, nothing should happen to them. Sad to say, there's no force field protecting the bike lane, and cars may swerve to avoid another car. If you've ever been forced off a road because someone veered out in front of you, the last thing you're worrying about is the bike rider when you're trying to control your vehicle and avoid crashing into another car full of people.

Then put all of this together on a frenetic, hi traffic roadway and you are asking for an accident to happen.

I think the city really bears the responsibility on this for not thinking out bike lanes and car traffic. they're a great thing, but a lot more thought and design should have gone into it. And I'm a great believer in public transportation. For my money, the City should be doing a lot more to improve it, but the reality for the moment is that the city is packed with cars, and not just personal cars. Vehicles are the lifeblood of the city and taking away car lanes to make protected bike lanes will just make traffic even worse.

Posted by: bxgrl at September 10, 2008 10:21 AM

I was thinking about this on my bike ride in to the office this morning (downtown brooklyn over manhattan bridge and up first ave) -- running the usual gauntlet of double-parked trucks, blocked bike lanes, crazy taxis, etc.

I think what we need is a new team of "elite" traffic enforcement agents who focus exclusively on issuing citations for traffic flow issues. Currently, violations are issued primarily by traffic agents who spend most of their time writing tickets for double parking, expired meters, parking in no standing zones, blocking hydrants, etc. In many cases, the ones actually causing problems for bicyclists, pedestrians and other motorists, and often creating blind spots and bottlenecks (which, in turn, endanger bicyclists and pedestrians) are vehicles which are either immune, with placards, or get their tickets dismissed en mass. Most are never ticketed anyway.

So, I propose hiring specialized, trained DOT enforcement agents charged with enforcing the rules of the roads they create -- bike lanes, bus lanes, triple-parking, crosswalks, left turns from center lanes, blocking the box, etc. Just as DOB inspectors issue citations to those who violate DOB rules. They would be classified as non-moving violations, but would carry steep, punitive fines (maybe $300 and up). They would be different color and would not be subject to the same appeal process and bulk dismissals process as parking tickets. Give these agents a device that allows them to take a date- and time-stamped picture of the violation and files it electronically with each violation. Dispatch them on foot or on bikes or scooters to patrol high-incident areas. Maybe they wouldn't need to even stop moving violators -- just photograph, enter the plate, and let the system mail a citation.

NYPD has proved time and again that enforcing road rules simply isn't a priority. DOT has no teeth. The parking ticket people, while they perform an important function, simply aren't enough of a threat. Only by creating a new agency with real authority and a mission to clean things up can any progress be made towards bringing order to the streets.

Imagine what the roads would be like if the authorities managing them had a reputation of being efficient and ruthless with violators.

Posted by: zgori at September 10, 2008 11:56 AM

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