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July 21, 2008

Saint Ann's To Make the Best of Probation Office Move

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While plenty of parents of St. Ann's students have expressed their opinion about the impending relocation of a Federal probation center to a building in which the school leases space and which abuts its lower and middle schools, there had yet to be an official response from the school administration. Until this weekend, when the Brooklyn Heights Blog posted a leaked letter to parents from Headmaster Larry Weiss and Board President Peter Darrow. In it, they set out the school's position that, while it will take every appropriate measure to protect the safety of its students, it recognizes the fact that the school is in an urban environment and does not feel it should try influence or dictate who its neighbors should be:

We believe that as long as the school and its neighbors are doing everything they can to ensure student safety, there is a limit to the extent to which the school can or should appropriately try to influence, block or change the environment and facilities in which Saint Ann’s has always chosen to locate itself...As New Yorkers, we all confront the daily reality that sending a child to school in New York City presents a host of issues that are unique to an urban setting...We feel that helping our children and students learn to deal with such interactions has been, and always will be one of the benefits, as well as one of the potential challenges, of attending school in a setting such as ours.

Click through to read the entire letter.
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July 2008

Dear Saint Ann’s Parents,

We are writing to discuss the impact on Saint Ann’s School of the agreement between the U.S. General Services Administration and the owners of Pierrepont Plaza to replace the U.S. Attorney’s Office (which is moving to the former General Post Office Building opposite the Federal Court House) with the U.S. Probation Office in the Eastern District as a tenant in Pierrepont Plaza. The move consolidates Probation Office facilities formerly located in other Brooklyn Heights locations including 75 Clinton Street, a building near Packer Collegiate Institute.

For many years, up to the present, the main offices of the U.S. Attorney, Eastern District, have been located in Pierrepont Plaza directly adjacent to the Lower School and Middle/High School buildings on Pierrepont Street and in the former Brooklyn Union Gas Building opposite the Lower School. Saint Ann’s is also a tenant of the Pierrepont Plaza building. The Computer Center and four classrooms are located in two different ground floor areas of this building, each with a separate entrance with its own security guard, used only by Saint Ann’s students and faculty.

Saint Ann’s School places the highest priority on its responsibility to protect the safety of our students as they engage in school activities during the school day. Our school is located in an urban area in which our neighbors include federal, state, and city institutions that are part of the criminal justice system. Within the U.S. Attorney’s offices, employees regularly conducted active criminal investigations under high security conditions involving armed guards. Saint Ann’s School administrators and security staff have always taken these facts into account in developing supervision procedures for our campus during school hours. We do not know of any incidents in which the presence of the U.S. Attorney’s office compromised the safety of our students in any way over the years.

Consequently, we have begun meeting with the Chief of the Probation Office to ensure a cooperative and collaborative relationship between Saint Ann’s and the Probation Office that will maximize our joint efforts to ensure the safety of Saint Ann’s students. Discussions with Packer and Probation Office administrators and the Brooklyn Heights Association have indicated that the history of the Probation Office’s facility on Clinton Street has been without incident. We have been assured by the Chief of the Probation Office that loitering outside the office’s entrance will not be permitted, and that the office’s security personnel will be located within the office and will not be stationed on Pierrepont Street or routinely visible to our students.
We believe that as long as the school and its neighbors are doing everything they can to ensure student safety, there is a limit to the extent to which the school can or should appropriately try to influence, block or change the environment and facilities in which Saint Ann’s has always chosen to locate itself.

As New Yorkers, we all confront the daily reality that sending a child to school in New York City presents a host of issues that are unique to an urban setting.. Walking to school or taking public transportation, going out to lunch, hanging out, or playing after school all involve interactions with a far more diverse community than would be true in a suburban or rural location. We feel that helping our children and students learn to deal with such interactions has been, and always will be one of the benefits, as well as one of the potential challenges, of attending school in a setting such as ours.

We recognize that some members of the Saint Ann’s community may disagree with our conclusions or merely want more detailed information about the facility. We are actively cooperating with the Chief of the Probation Office and with elected officials in their efforts to disseminate information via e-mail and to schedule face-to-face informational meetings with Probation officials.

Sincerely,
Dr. Larry Weiss, Head of School
Peter H. Darrow, President, Board of Trustees

Sent via e-mail.
Hard copy will follow in regular mail




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rather enlightened of them, i must say.

Posted by: plgdude at July 21, 2008 9:30 AM

Amen.
Much ado about nothing. A sensational headline gets wo much knee-jerk reaction when the reality is not much is really changing for the area.

Posted by: Petebklyn at July 21, 2008 9:37 AM

This has been discussed to death. It's a terrible idea. It's one thing to have this in the same neighborhood, but in the same building that the kids attend is not appropriate all.
Urban setting or not. Maybe St Ann's should look for a new location?

Posted by: jbes at July 21, 2008 10:11 AM

This is such a non-story, moving some probation offices a thousand feet closer to one private school (St. Anns) and a thousand feet away from another (Packer) is hardly a big deal. Not to mention that the 'community' during this time has also benefited from the U.S. Attorney's Office with visits by scores of violent criminals being moved across Cadman Plaza.

Frankly the bigger scandal is that you have parents spending 20K a yr on school for their kids and all many of these kids seem to do is hang out outside and smoke cigarettes (and weed) on the corner of Monroe Place. - Dont get me wrong - I did the same thing in H.S. but my Parents didn't pay for the privilege.

Posted by: fsrg at July 21, 2008 10:59 AM

I read an article recently that stated that they've actually been there for about 30 years now. Having the Fed's there is not new. I think the fact that the public has just become aware of this is the issue. I lived in the Heights for many years and never knew they were there. Now that I know, I don't think it's changed my opinion on their location or mine. St. Ann's probably came after and may not have been aware of their presence since they were a little known secret. HOWEVER, you always had the presence of the courts, marshalls, and FBI right there. NOW you also have OEM (the old red cross location on cadman plaza east) and the mayors bunker...It's a big city out there and our school's are bound to be near something like this...it's inevitable (maybe avoidable but never the less inevitable)

Posted by: just me at July 21, 2008 11:04 AM

Maybe I'm missing something? Isn't this located in the same building as the school? If so frankly thats a different issue than the same neighborhood. This would never happen in a public school.

Posted by: jbes at July 21, 2008 11:26 AM

10:59, Even though it is Saint Ann's, I can tell you that none of the Lower Schoolers hang out on the corner and smoke (weed or cigs). I think a lot of the Lower School parents are concerned with their kids being right next door to convicted sex offenders, and I think reasonable people would agree that it's a situation that needs to be looked into further.

Posted by: DMA89 at July 21, 2008 11:33 AM

So much hype and drama. I would think that ex-offenders who are actually showing up for a meeting with their probation officer are no more likely to commit a crime on that site than still-in-the-closet sex offenders who may be living right next door to you and your children in your neighborhood. I applaud the realistic and reasoned approach of St. Ann's Headmaster.

Posted by: Brooklynista at July 21, 2008 12:16 PM

jbes - Yes its the same building - but on the ground floor - so they have separate entrances and are totally walled off from each other - being in the "same building" is really just a technicality - Did you realize that the Brooklyn DAs office (where defendants, armed officers, and confidential informants all visit regularly - is in the "same building" as the most successful Marriott Hotel in the country? - Bet you didnt and neither do the guests).

Posted by: fsrg at July 21, 2008 12:17 PM

Convicted sex offenders + lower school students...hmmmm, doesn't take a genius to know that this is a time bomb waiting to explode. Wonder what the headmaster will write then...

Posted by: pierre at July 21, 2008 1:31 PM

It's always great when people are cavalier about the safety of other people's children.

Posted by: DMA89 at July 21, 2008 1:32 PM

DMA89 - Great red herring argument.

Posted by: fsrg at July 21, 2008 2:01 PM

Oh, please. To you, the kids who go there smoke, so who cares what happens to them? There are 5, 6, and 7 year olds right next door to that building and anyone with two working brain cells would realize that it was a very odd decision to require convicted child pornographers to hang around on the block. It would never be allowed next to a public school.

Posted by: DMA89 at July 21, 2008 2:13 PM

DMA - show me a SINGLE complaint, problem, issue, comment or ANYTHING else regarding the 1. U.S. Probation Office being less than 100 yards from Packer or 2. 3 blocks from St Anns or 3. The fact that the same type of criminals were regularly shuttled in and out of the SAME space when the U.S. Attorney's Office occupied the ground floor and I'll support your outrage. You can cite anything over the last TWENTY years (the time that the above facts were in place)

Posted by: fsrg at July 21, 2008 4:11 PM

You honestly think the bigger scandal is parents spending 20K a yr on school and the kids hanging out outside smoking cigarettes?

I think it is a scandal that they spend 20K a year and get such a lack of concern from the school officials to a ligitimate (although soemwhat overblown) concern.

As was pointed out, you would probably get more responsiveness from the public schools. Sad state of affairs when private schools are less "caring" about the parent concerns than public.

Posted by: pmmtenement at July 21, 2008 4:34 PM

Tony, I mean fsrq, I can't reply to your request accurately, because the probation office has yet to send me its security logs. But you're right, perhaps a FOIA request is in order.

My issue is that for you it's a "non-story", which is very flip. For any parent with a child at the school, it is a legitamate concern, and needs to be investigated further. Also, "a hundred yards away" is not the same as sharing space in the same building. "3 blocks away" is not the same as sandwiched in the middle of the school.

Perhaps the situation will be manageable and the kids won't be impacted. But hype and drama? Hardly. Just normal concerned parents acting as any responsible parents should.

Posted by: DMA89 at July 21, 2008 6:30 PM

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