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July 16, 2008

Federal Probation Officer Defends Proximity to St. Ann's

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In response to the story we broke last week about the federal parole office set to share a building with St. Ann's School, Tony Garoppolo, Chief Probation Officer of the Eastern District, pictured above, forwarded us a letter he recently sent to parents defending the decision. "Our anonymity has been blown," he told us, adding that his agency has been in the neighborhood, within walking distance from the court system, since the 1930s. "So I guess the best solution is to be out in the open with everything." The new office would share One Pierrepont Plaza with St. Ann's middle and high schools, and is flanked by St. Ann's main elementary, middle and high school buildings. The parolees and students would not share an entrance, he said. In the letter, Garoppolo discusses the level of security expected at the new building, owned by Forest City Ratner; that they moved after being forced out of their present office to make way for condos; and the types of crimes committed by their parolees. Yes, there will be sex offenders. "Our sex offenders generally have no criminal record for ever having abused a child," he wrote. "Their crimes are generally downloading child pornography images onto their personal computers and being stimulated by viewing the images." The Brooklyn Eagle has a follow-up article and a column further delving into concerns about the move, and frustrations among parents and elected officials over not being notified of the decision in advance. Click through to read the letter. Editor's note: The final paragraph of Garoppolo's letter was omitted in the original post. In it, he invites St. Anne's parents to a meeting to discuss the move and included his contact information. He asked that we include that paragraph in the post.
Parole Facility Planned Next Door to St. Ann's School [Brownstoner]
Probation Office to Share Building With Elite Brooklyn Hts. School [Brooklyn Eagle]
Probation Office Controversy: Consequences of Hiding Decision [Brooklyn Eagle]

33-Clinton.jpg Parents, I am the Chief of U.S. Probation Office in the Eastern Disrict of New York. I'm going to provide you with some historical background and factual information about our agency and its long standing location in Brooklyn Heights.

First let me address the security guard concerns that I know some of you have. All non-law enforcement visitors are screened for weapons prior to entering our reception area, and this is done inside the building. Our security for Pierrepont will be upgraded as we are being assigned Court Security Officers (CSOs) to conduct the weapons screening. Weapons screening is performed to enhance the safety of the office work environment for our staff.

I obtained more detailed information this morning about the CSOs from the Chief of Operations for the U.S. Marshals Service in our district. The Marshals Service will be supervising our security at Pierrepont. The CSOs are the most upscale and professional contract security officers employed by the federal government. They are the same security officers who screen vistiors for weapons in the lobby of the U.S. Court House, the U.S. Bankruptcy Court and U.S. Attorney's Office on Cadman Plaza East. They are retired, federal, state, and local law enforcement officers who are carefully screened for their positions, and all have to pass a firearms proficiency and safety examination every year conducted by the U.S. Marshals Service. They are also deputized by the Marshals Service to provide them with federal arrest power if needed.

Our Probation Office is an agency of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, which covers the counties of Richmond, Kings, Queens, Nassau and Suffolk. We have been located in the Brooklyn Heights area since the inception of our agency in the 1930's, first being located at the Post Office on Cadman Plaza East, which formerly housed the U.S. Court House. In the 1970's we grew to be too big to stay in the Court House, and moved to our first commercial office building at 175 Remsen St. Several years later we had to expand and we added an office at 189 Montague St.

We have to be located within a very short walking distance of the U.S. Court House and the U.S. Attorney's Office, as our officers are streaming back and forth between those locations and our offices every weekday. Further, our judges sometimes need to see one or more of our staff on almost an immediate basis. We also need to be located very near a major subway complex with the most lucrative subway lines for easy access to our office, and being near the 7th Avenue and Lexington Avenue lines, among others, serves that purpose. In 1988, we moved to our present headquarters location at 75 Clinton St., and expanded a few years later to a smaller office at 111 Livingston St.

Until now, community residents have generally been unaware of our presence. We have been unknown because during the entire history of our agency, we have never had any type incident near our building space, and none of our offenders have ever been arrested for any criminal acts in Brooklyn Heights. This is the last place they would misbehave. Also, our offenders have never loitered in front of our building space, and we would never allow it. They generally want to get away from us and leave the area as soon as their office business with us is over.

Our building at 75 Clinton St. is now delapidated and has become a very uncomfortable work environment for our staff. To address that issue, the original plan was to have the landlord renovate the building, close 111 Livingston St., and consolidate all of our staff in a newly modeled 75 Clinton St. But the landlord was dissatisfied with the rent offer made by The General Services Administration (GSA), and he sold the building to a developer who is waiting for us leave so that he can, as I have been told, convert the building to condo apartments. GSA canvassed landlords in this area about taking us in, and the only suitable building that expressed interest was Pierrepont Plaza.

Pierrepont management vetted us thoroughly, coming to our offices several times, touring our entire faciltiies, and interviewing members of my staff. They correctly concluded they we are not much different than the U.S. Attorney's Office which they had at Pierrepont for many years without incident. Offenders out on bail enter and leave the the U.S. Attorney's Office on a daily basis. Our officers see up to half of our NYC offenders in the field in lieu of coming to the office.

Our Brooklyn based operation supervises slighlty over half of our offenders, the remainder, living in Eastern Queens and Long Island, being covered by our Central Islip Office in Suffolk County. Most of our offenders have no history of violence. They are mostly wholesale, high level drug distributors and smugglers, and various types of white collar offenders. The wholesale drug traffickers are not the type of offender that sells drugs in the street to drug abusers and addicts.

Such offenders are prosecuted by the local district attorneys and supervised by NYC Probation and NYS Parole. Our white collar offenders were involved in crimes such as myriad financial fraud shcemes, money laundering, bribery of public officials, income tax evasion, customs violtions, defrauding medicaid and medicare, and defrauding financial lending institutions. I know one or more parents were concerned about us supervising murderers. That would be a very rare occurrence. Those prosecuted in federal court for crimes involving murder are generally sentenced to life or the death penalty. Parole in the federal system was abolished in 1987, so a life sentence means life, unlike the NYS system.

We have a small subset of offenders who are classified as sex offenders. But these are not the type of offender who a parent would understandably first think about. Our sex offenders generally have no criminal record for ever having abused a child. Their crimes are generally downloading child pornography images onto their personal computers and being stimulated by viewing the images. They also usually traded such images with other like minded people over the internet. The viewing of child porn tends to be an addiction. We have the best sex offender officers and program in the country.

Our protocols and equipment are being studied by NYS as a model for supervising sex offenders, as we have been assisting NYS in the State's plans to upgrade its handling of sex offenders in the NYS system. We realize that an individual who views child porn may be more likely than the average person to abuse a child. With that in mind we routinely conduct physical surveillance on such offenders, and we subject them to polygraph (lie detector) examinations periodically with our own officer doing the tesitng. Further, we place security software on any internet portal they have to check on which web sites they are visiting. They are also in treatment with contract psychotherapists who specialize in treating sex offenders.

I hope that Ben and I will be able to organize a meeting soon to address all of your issues, and to give you an opportunity to ask as many questions as you wish. I will await contact from Ben about suggested dates and times for such a meeting. My Court can provide meeting space in the late afternoon/early evening. For the time being, if you have one or two questions you would individually like to get answered, feel free to call me at my office at 347-534-3717. The best time to call is in the early morning.

Tony Garoppolo

In above photo, St. Anne's School main building is at left; the building that houses some middle and high school classes, where the parole office is set to move, is at right.




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"Their crimes are generally downloading child pornography images onto their personal computers and being stimulated by viewing the images."

Yeah, that'll put the parents at ease.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 16, 2008 10:31 AM

"We have a small subset of offenders who are classified as sex offenders. But these are not the type of offender who a parent would understandably first think about" that was a joke, correct?

Ok- so the parole office is actually sharing the building- this is not the same as being in a separate building at all, which is what I had thought would happen.

So how is this going to work? Are there separate elevators and stairwells? are they going to be able to completely close off every area of common access (by this I mean non public maintainence areas.) How are they going to check the comings and goings of parolees in the building?

Sorry- I think this particular location is seriously insane and any public official who condones it should be thrown out of office. On the last thread someone made the suggestion they put it at the BHOD- why not? They can combine the facilities there. And it would be much more manageable.

Posted by: bxgrl at July 16, 2008 10:46 AM

Perhaps the parole office could be transfered to the Wall Street area. Lots of predators already there...

Posted by: qis4quincy at July 16, 2008 10:56 AM

that would certainly give them easy access :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at July 16, 2008 10:57 AM

This set up is insane. The fact that there have been no crimes committed in the proximity of the old location means nothing. Our children are our number one priority. They and we deserve the peace of mind that comes with knowing our children are in positive, safe environments while they are out of our sight. Saint Ann's is a very liberal school that empowers children to be independent. It is a model that works and attracts families from all over. Tightened security, off-limit spaces, and the presence of the top-notched security described in the article changes the environment the children enjoy and, let's face it, we parents pay heftily for.

Posted by: nextup at July 16, 2008 10:58 AM

This school has always been around criminals - why is this that much different?
St. Ann's Established in 1965 - Brooklyn court houses est 19th Century.

Reminds me of when I was living upstate and a church moved in next to a porn movie theater that had been there for ages - very tasteful place - no inapropriate signs out front or sleezy characters hanging around. Then the church spent hours a week walking up and down protesting the place saying something like that shouldn't be near a church.

Posted by: Flatbushrising at July 16, 2008 11:02 AM

The St. Ann's kids don't want parolee's, they need practicing felons to sell them their droogs.

Posted by: Geddy Lee Meriwether at July 16, 2008 11:03 AM

The St. Ann's kids don't want parolees, they need practicing felons to sell them their droogs.

Posted by: Geddy Lee Meriwether at July 16, 2008 11:04 AM

Don't have kids at the school, so I don't know how I would feel about this. I strongly disagree with the assertion that someone who downloads child porn hasn't abused a child. Sure, not directly abused, but not above asking someone else to do it. That's splitting hairs.

On the other hand, given that everyone will be watching parolees when they arrive at the building, these kids probably could not be any safer.

Posted by: BrooklynButler at July 16, 2008 11:06 AM

The argument against this would make more sense if:

1. The Fed Parole Office wasnt already 2 blocks south on Clinton - across from a Jewish pre-school and 1/2 block from Packer - and there has been no issue and no complaints

and

2. If the space that Parole is going to occupy wasnt formerly occupied by the US Attorney's Office who used the space to interview defendants (generally cooperating) who were incarcerated and therefore violent offenders have been coming and going into that space (as well as across the street to the BUG building) for decades.

Therefore, while the residents may complain - the question has to be asked - if it wasnt an issue for the last 20yrs or so - why is it now?

Posted by: fsrg at July 16, 2008 11:23 AM

bxgrl, the offenders visiting the probation office will (if the move goes forward) enter through an entrance that serves them and them alone.

Posted by: g_man at July 16, 2008 11:31 AM

Thanks g man- but I'm wondering about the rest of the building. Stairwells, maintenance areas, etc. What would be done to secure those?

Posted by: bxgrl at July 16, 2008 11:51 AM

This is ridiculous. Saint Ann's should not be sharing a building with this office. The school needs to find other space. The idea that the sex offenders are only guilty of "downloading child pornography" and therefore are not much of a threat is surreal. Just because they have not been convicted of molesting doesn't mean they won't, or haven't done so. There is a reason laws keep sex offenders away from schools. I have a son who will be attending Saint Ann's next Fall, and I fully expect the school to move those classrooms.
Anything less would be exposing them to very serious insurance/litigation risks.

Being across the street is not the same as being in the same building.

Posted by: homey at July 16, 2008 12:04 PM

there is no such thing as federal parole. it was abolished in the 1980s.

This is the United States Probation Office. Might as well get it right.

Posted by: ell442 at July 16, 2008 12:08 PM

bxgrl, people under supervised release do not have access to "stairwells, maintenance areas, etc." The areas that offenders have access to are very limited and sequential, with locked doors separating each area.

Posted by: g_man at July 16, 2008 12:41 PM

10:58, I'm a little confused. How does one come to *deserve* peace of mind? I would also like to claim my right to calm, happy thoughts...

Posted by: deadnancy at July 16, 2008 12:50 PM

Also: fight on, #666 rebellion! To freedom!

Posted by: deadnancy at July 16, 2008 12:54 PM

What I can't believe is that St. Ann's is officially quiet on this subject - what does THAT mean?

Posted by: pierre at July 16, 2008 1:06 PM

If you walk down Court Street on any given day you're passing by—and might be interacting with—tons of folks at various stages of dealing with the criminal justice system. It's just a fact of life. And it doesn't mean the area is less safe. If anything it's MORE safe because what idiot is going to do something right there with cops and court officers all over the place.

In general folks, clam down. Because I'm sure that everyone lives at least one block away from something or a place that houses folks of questionable backgrounds.

Posted by: Jack at July 16, 2008 1:25 PM

I wonder how many concerned parents are well rounded in their concern for their kids safety. How many check the neighborhood sex offender registry (there are sex offenders living among you in the Heights folks, maybe even next door, same building, or the same block) . How many concerned parents monitor their children's computer usage the clothes they wear to school,the friends they keep,or even sit down and actually talk to them about strangers and defending themselves? or how many just bitch on an anonymous blog and think thats enough.

I agree people need to calm down about this and pay more attention to the basics. One should never have peace of mind when dealing with their children's safety, ever, and if this "problem" was to go away, many parents would go back to thinking their kids safe again, when they are never really safe.

I grew up in Cobble Hill, and when i was a teenager I went to parties of St Anns kids and Packer parties where there was tons of drinking and drugs in beautiful houses in the Heights, and the parents were away in Europe, or in their country house oblivious to what was going on in their lovely brownstone. Just one example of parents general complacency, and i dont mean to pick on Heights parents, thats just the location this thread involves

Posted by: lifer at July 16, 2008 1:49 PM

thanks, g man- that was what I was asking about. Since I've never been a parolee (despite what my old friend the troll might say) I wasn't sure how freely they come and go when they report in. I didn't think they would be escorted by armed guards, like prisoners.

Posted by: bxgrl at July 16, 2008 2:36 PM

probationer! or pre-trial defendants! no parolees will be at the office! they don't exist!

Posted by: ell442 at July 16, 2008 2:53 PM

Well, some of the offenders will need to 'go freely' -- many of them go to the office sole to provide a urine sample under supervision. (Sorry, couldn't help myself. Must of watched too many Flomax commercials during last night's All Star Game.)

Posted by: g_man at July 16, 2008 3:07 PM

Jack- When you walk down Court Street do you notice how dirty it is and notice the people that you encounter? social service offices (Housing, Parole, etc) while they provide people with assistance don't always make a great neighborhood. It is a pleasure to walk down Clinton Street. Put social services like this on that street and into a school no less not only are you destroying a community, I would think that the appeal that neighborhood and that stretch of Clinton attract would ultimately leave people with a bad taste in their mouth and destroy what Clinton St. now is.

And seriously not to knock on cops but how many of them are on their cell phones, chatting with each other or reading the paper while sitting in their car not paying attention while on the job?

Maybe they are taking a break but you can't count on the cops being in the area and paying attention to the sex offender that is oogling at your kid which by the way isn't a crime but leaves you with such a feeling of being coated in slim that you want to bathe in hydrogen peroxide.

Posted by: Caitrus at July 16, 2008 3:26 PM

Well, I was going to foolishily ask what "under supervision" entails but never mind, it's ok. I can always give free rein to my imagination :-)

Posted by: bxgrl at July 16, 2008 3:30 PM

Reading this entry seems that the Probation (not parole as Brownstoner keeps insisting on using to sound more inflammatory ala NYPost style) office is currently partly located on Clinton Street and they want to consolidate on Cadman Plaza across from the court house. Not the other way around that Jack sounds like he believes.
I can't really figure out from reporting here and BrooklynEagle if St Ann's is next door only or has it also leased space in the office building next door also? And if St Ann's has space in the office building - that it would appear they have (and appropriately) separate entrance from Fed office and other office tenants. And if St Ann's has leased in an office building - maybe the problem lies with St. Ann's. Who else is in that building ? Lawyers with violent criminal clients,etc, etc?

All this hullabaloo seems based on superficial info about proposal and lack of knowledge of where these offices are now. And if parents had real problem (which I don't think there is a real one) why are they sending their kids to school so close to all the criminal court system to begin with?

Posted by: Petebklyn at July 16, 2008 4:00 PM

back in the 90s we lived near a parole office on irving place in manhattan and they shut down our block once, b/c a parolee grabbed an officer's gun and got out of the building and noone could find him...Anyway, I'm concerned only about child porn downloaders being THAT close to little kids all the time. it's not good for the kids and it's actually not good for the criminal either. i don't really believe that some mafioso is going to gun the kids down, nor do I think that a wall street offender will try and arrange a price-fixing deal with them, but no-one can honestly believe that it's healthy for the porn guys to be there.
one more thing, does anyone know ANYONE who went to high school who didn't engage in underage drinking and drugs?

Posted by: miss priss at July 16, 2008 4:06 PM

I hope the reason the school hasn't made an official announcement is that it accepts the argument posted on Brownstoner by one of its senior teachers:

"It's a city school--safe for reasons that make suburban schools unsafe. Our safety comes from knowing all kinds of people firsthand, and knowing that people, young and old, live in the same society, gate their communities how they will. ... That's the paradox: protect yourself by excluding others and you run the greater risk that the protection will fail."

New York, and indeed America, would be a stronger place if more private schools were next to probation offices. Less segregation, not more, is what we need.

Posted by: Alum at July 16, 2008 4:18 PM

Miss Priss -- I didn't. Got over that phase in junior high. And I was no puritan by local standards. Half of my St Ann's classmates never touched the stuff.

Posted by: Alum at July 16, 2008 4:29 PM

In response to confusion about where St. Ann's classrooms are located in relation to the probation office, according to St. Anne's website there are classrooms in One Pierrepont Plaza and on either side, as I wrote in the post. Garoppolo told me they would not be sharing an entrance, and the entrance he said they would use is under construction. So, it appears they would just be sharing a sidewalk with the students.

http://www.saintannsny.org/info/info.htm

Posted by: sarah ryley at July 16, 2008 4:42 PM

Also, regardless of what you think about Jane Jacobs and/or gated communities, how about a little common sense? The office is moving from a building one block away, on the corner of Montague and Clinton, by the subway, the local commercial and lunch strip, and St Ann's Church. There were just as many children, less supervised, at the old location as there will be at the new one. If there were no problems at the old office, why will there be any at the new one? The whole thing is a 100% non-issue.

Posted by: Alum at July 16, 2008 4:43 PM

Deadnancy, what makes you think you have to DO anything to deserve peace of mind. It's obviously something we may have to work for, but we all deserve it. Teenagers the world over experiment. That doesn't mean we adults are excused from creating appropriate environments for them to grow.

Posted by: nextup at July 16, 2008 5:08 PM

Caitrus, here is my message plain and simple:
Most people don't know anything about anything in their neighborhood and suddenly act shocked like quivering biddies when someone brings up something "shocking". There are tons of offices for all kinds of stuff spread out all over this city. And you know what? It's not an issue. The idea that NYC or any city is a homogenous location that is 100% "safe" is nutty.

"Not the other way around that Jack sounds like he believes."
Petebklyn, I have no idea what you mean. See my point above.

The reality is this: You cannot keep yourself any "safer" by moving things you perceive as "bad" away. It's all panic and fear based on little facts and based on the idea that somehow someone visiting his probation officer is somehow going to go, "Well, I have 1/2 hour... Time for some crime!"

And FWIW, when it comes to child abuse/molestation crimes it's predominantly done by people the child knows and not some random stranger. The image of a flasher is shocking and hilarious to an extent, but better keep tabs on nannies, school teachers, bus drivers and others and not worry about the magical "stranger" who is out to get you. They simply don't exist.

Posted by: Jack at July 16, 2008 6:26 PM

Am I missing something? Aren't the streets full of children and felons all the time? I could do without either myself but unless you live in a cloister somewhere you have to deal with it.


Posted by: Gary Cooper at July 16, 2008 8:24 PM

This guy Garrapola is a joke. Is he a perp or is he the Probation Chief? Jesus Christ, he is trying to put us in the community at ease and he poses for the picture wearing a hat with guns on it. Thanks alot Mr. Chief, I feel alot safer knowing a goof ball like you is running the probation department. Everyone knows that sexual offenders are extremely dangerous and our kids are being put in harms way. You scare me.

Posted by: CitizenKane at July 17, 2008 1:36 PM

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