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July 2, 2008

House of the Day: 64 Lefferts Place

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This four-story, three-family limestone at 64 Lefferts Place on the southern edge of Clinton Hill has some beautiful original detail (we're particularly taken with the plaster moldings shown in the bedroom and, in this slideshow, in the stairwell). We're less enthusiastic about how the new(ish) kitchens look, but each to his own. The asking price for the 4,200-square-foot house is a "negotiable" $1,750,000. (Taxes are less than $2,000 a year!) How much negotiation do you think the seller will actually have to do to get this deal done?
64 Lefferts Place [Marcia Clark] GMAP P*Shark




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Why did they take a photo of the bathroom with what appears to be an overflowing hamper/pile of clothes?

Price should be dropped. There are house in primely-located FG for a little bit more than this.

At least this house is not an long walk to the subway since it's right between two stops.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:42 PM

given all the muggings in the area I would say it sells for 1.6

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:43 PM

Taxes are less than $2,000 a year!
Not for much longer!!!

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:44 PM

The offending kitchen is Ikea. (I have the same one--but now that I know that Brownstoner doesn't like it I'm going to have to renovate. Right after I replaster the exposed brick, of course.)

I'd say 1.6M tops.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:44 PM

"How much negotiation do you think the seller will actually have to do to get this deal done?"


I'd say a million.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:45 PM

I am both cheap and poor but 1.7mil for this place seems just about right. In San Francisco this house would be twice as much (or even a 15 minute walk away for that matter).....How could anyone say it's over priced?? I hope it sells soon (maybe they can rent to me..)

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:52 PM

That kitchen is horrible, or is it just a bad picture.

Actually, all the pictures are bad.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:53 PM

Slow day for stoner.
I think Biff is on vacation and I'm beginning to think he was responsible for 75% of the postings.


Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 1:56 PM

More importantly 1:42, why is the newspaper spread on the bathroom floor looking like its there to absorb something?? And where do you work on those kitchen counters with all that clutter?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 2, 2008 1:57 PM

this neighborhood is not great.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:02 PM

It is financial suicide to spend 1.7 million dollars for an ordinary rowhouse in this marginal section of the Borough of Brooklyn. There is nothing there to justify the price.
Many of your neighbors are on welfare. This is a working class community pretending it is middle class and charging upper class prices for real estate. Insane.


Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:09 PM

Could not agree with you more, 2:09.

This sure as hell ain't Park Slope, Carroll Gardens or Ft. Greene. BTW, you can get a house there for the same price, if not less.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:12 PM

I have been mugged at gunpoint four times in Clinton Hill this month already. And it's only July 2nd!

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:14 PM

"I have been mugged at gunpoint four times in Clinton Hill this month already."


I'm not at all surprised.

Too bad we aren't talking about Clinton Hill today.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:17 PM

broker should be slapped for letting those pphotos be posted. c'mon, take an hour to stage the hosue and earn your commission. but i have to agree, even with better photos it's overpriced in this area. but then i suppose that's what they mean by negotiable isn't it. My vote is it goes for 1.4.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:22 PM

This house is in Clinton Hill.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:22 PM

I just had my ass kicked on Lefferts Place about ten minutes ago. I'm moving to Park Slope!

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:24 PM

Oh, if this is Clinton Hill, then I say it goes for 600K.

The neighborhood is goin to sh%t.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:24 PM

I don't get it... I live a bit closer to the bed-stuy border and walk EXACTLY pass this place on my way to a friends 3 family home on Vanderbilt and St. Marks (10 minutes away and sold for 1.5mil 4 years ago). This neighborhood is beautiful! Clinton Hill Co-Ops are just a block away and it's pretty easy access to the Dekalb stretch of cool spots in Fort Greene...I think a they will get quite a few offers!! This neighborhood isn't as crazy as some may think (especially if they haven't actually walked through it). Do a google maps and really look around the neighborhood! It's gorgeous!

On a side note....The Renovation is a tad cheesy!

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:26 PM

You people are insane. This place will go for ABOVE asking easily. PL is the new Park Slope.

My vote: $2.1m.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:26 PM

My friend had his pants stolen from the stoop of this house two weeks ago. Now he's moving to Murray Hill.

No, enough of this. This neighborhood *is* beautiful. Karl Rove Wannabe realtors from Park Slope will do whatever it takes to make you think otherwise. So be it, that's what this website has become.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:31 PM

This house really is worth about $800,000.
If it were in San Francisco it would be worth double that. Although in San Francisco most rowhouses have a garage or a driveway where you can park your car so not having would be a minus there. Also people do not split up their houses like this in San Francisco, it's considered declasse, can you imagine?

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:31 PM

this price is silly.

1.2 tops.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:31 PM

We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s sWe narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? cope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s sWe narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need two perfectly good wooden doors, handles and hinges included? How about three electric bathroom fans? 10 built-in speakers? An old Amana washing machine? Three toilets? Three sinks? Faucets? Light fixtures. . . . . ? We narrowed our choice of demo contractors to two, Paul and Bill, and we asked our architect Ole to sit in on the second round of interviews. He was in the process of finalizing the demo plan. The demo plan details everything that is to be removed from the space, and it has to be filed with the city before a permit can be issued. Since the plans weren’t yet complete, the contractors originally bid on the job just by seeing the space. In order to compare each bid, I needed to review each contractor’s scope of work. Did they both include ripping up the tile floors in the back half of the store? Did both bids include taking down the dropped ceiling and the upper ceiling? Did both bids cover insurance, removal fees and container costs?

Even more interesting to compare, was how each contractor planned to handle the waste itself. Paul was planning to collect all the waste in one dumpster and then let the hauler (hopefully) sort out the recyclables, whereas Bill had an extensive list of recycling/salvage contacts including a metal recycler in nearby Greenpoint and Build it Green in Astoria, where he was planning to take any reusable/recyclable materials. I just kept asking myself, does a landfill really need

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:34 PM

What is "PL"? This is in Clinton Hill (CH) on Lefferts Place (LP).

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:44 PM

why does this happen brownstoner? what is it with the weird spam.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:44 PM

PL = Pretty lame??

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 2:51 PM

Obviously the "PL" poster doesn't know Brooklyn and ASSumes that Lefferts Place is in Prospect Lefferts Garden/Manor.

This is most definetly Clinton Hill and fringe hill at that - I def vote over price by at least 600k.

Brownstoner - please delete spam - so annoying this is the second time this has happened.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:04 PM

that would be PLG or LM, not PL. And certainly not 2M!!

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:10 PM

So this house is in the fringe of a fringe neighborhood of Brooklyn asking 1.7 million...

LOL

What bubble?

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:11 PM

I think the house looks nice. For all of those nay sayers On this board it looks as if you will have to move to North Dakota after all.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:18 PM

I think the house looks nice. For all of those nay sayers On this board it looks as if you will have to move to North Dakota after all.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:18 PM

Once again, a lovely house on this street sold for 1.5M in the fall. It needed work, but maybe it's a comp.

Since then, the economy in general has gone to crap and even those who were then ignoring the crumbling credit markets have had to recognize their impact on housing.

Oh, and 2 teenagers were shot to death right here on the sidewalk of pretty as a picture Lefferts Pl. on Christmas Eve.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:36 PM

"Slow day for stoner. I think Biff is on vacation and I'm beginning to think he was responsible for 75% of the postings."

1:56 = wrong = typical of faded type trolls when it comes to hypothesizing about me.

Posted by: Biff Champion at July 2, 2008 3:53 PM

atleast this is cheaper than yesterdays hotd LOL. still overpriced.

Posted by: armchairwarrior at July 2, 2008 3:53 PM

Ha 3:36 you posted that last time. how about Wisconsin??

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 3:54 PM

hey Biff...i finally went to the Excelsior on Sunday!!! Didn't realize it was across the street from that place next to the American legion that they are tearing down...last weeks brownstoner

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 4:31 PM

About time you got back, Biff!

Posted by: bxgrl at July 2, 2008 4:31 PM

Hi bxgrl
what did you do last weekend?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 2, 2008 4:39 PM

"Ha 3:36 you posted that last time. how about Wisconsin??"

Which is why I wrote "once again..."

Just because I've posted this very pertinent information about the houses location before doesn't make it less true and relevant to this discussion. Anyone considering the house should know this info and the broker is not likely to tell them.

As for Wisconsin, I've never been, but I hear it's pretty in summer and cold in winter. Why do you ask?

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 4:42 PM

I'm getting so damn sick of this personal attack bullshit. Whoever you are, crazy-stalker-of-bxgirl, you're not funny, but you are pathetic.

Get rid of anon commentators, please.

Posted by: Heather at July 2, 2008 5:26 PM

bxgrl - if that was an attempt at humor...well, let's just leave it at that.

p.s. why don't you guys get each other's email - this isn't really the place for sharing personal anecdotes about one's weekend.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 5:35 PM

Guest at 4:42 Keep up the good work. Maybe you can further spread this pertinent information by standing on the block with a sign around your neck?

Wisconsin sounds like it's perfect place for you. No? Another poster suggested north dakota.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 5:36 PM

wait bxgrl is married now?

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 5:38 PM

Heather you forgot switchneh the screeneh.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 5:46 PM

It's not her. See the space after the name?

Posted by: Heather at July 2, 2008 5:53 PM

1.7 to live near the What? hmmmm.

I wish the real bxgrl would go away. The fake one(s) are more interesting.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 6:13 PM


The US economy is likely at the beginning of a major recession.
Housing prices will plumet in the next couple years.
The rent to buy ratio is completely out of whack. As an investment, this houses wouldn't got for more that $700,000.

But I know, I know, it's not JUST an investment. . . ok add on another $25,000 for "pride of ownership."

I'm a real estate investor myself. I don't want my properties to go down in value, but I expect they will.

My guess is a decline of at least 50% in the next year or two. Ask any old time real estate investor you meet, and he'll tell you the same thing.

Take care dudes!

The Dude

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 7:04 PM

theres a 5 story for sale on Lefferts Pl for 1.2. http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/rfs/740452761.html

Posted by: slick at July 2, 2008 7:25 PM

They dress like suburban oldsters. They're boring, overrated, and all their songs sound the same. Dan Deacon may be a fat fuck, but he gets people MOVING. Coldplay may be bland megastars but they've got more catchy tunes than the FeelThese will ever come up with. Let 'em enjoy playing Maxwells for the rest of their lives--as much of it may be left. What are they--70 now? And by the way, David Sedaris has lovely eyes

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 7:41 PM

i agree...i much prefer the fake bxgrl.

she funny.

oh wait. they're both fake.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 7:47 PM

I don't know how anyone with a legal income would be able to finance this house at this time. I fully understand that many people in Brooklyn make tons of illegal cash and that this fact accounts for the ridiculous prices paid for dumpy houses in unsavory neighborhoods, but I don't know of anyone with a legal income, who pays taxes and does not deal in stolen property or narcotics, who would have the kind of money to pay for a house like this on a street like this. Because a bank is not going to give you a jumbo on this. Most honest people want to nvest their hard-earned money in solid investments and in respectable neighborhoods.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 9:04 PM

It's nice to know that even if I go away for two weeks, resident d-bag, Biff, is still here.

Posted by: guest at July 2, 2008 9:52 PM

And thank you Heather for realizing that. this isn't the first time the troll has done that to me.

Posted by: bxgrl at July 2, 2008 11:53 PM

I love nailing myself to a cross on this site when people call me out on my stupid behavior.

Of course, if you weren't so stupid, you would be able to see right through my tween immaturity :-)

- bxgrl

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 1:38 AM

Yeah, well, feeling safe isn't just about walking down the street. It's also about not having creepy idiots stalk you online. What kind of pathetic loser stalks someone on an internet messageboard about real estate anyways? Does his computer not run well enough to go stalk some night elf druid? I don't mind the What, and the copy/paste troll is just annoying, but when stuff gets into the realm of personal attacks that are that personal -- it's not good.

Posted by: Heather at July 3, 2008 4:12 AM

Clinton Hill is a lovely neighborhood with beautiful brownstones and great people. I am glad that you guys think it is fringe. Stay away, we don't want you there. As for those of you who been robbed, guess what, robberies happen all over new york. Maybe be a little cautious instead of stereotyping an entire community as "fringe" or not "respectable." So is park slope, carroll gardens and the other such white bread neighbhorhooods the only "respectable" neighborhoods in Brooklyn? Why do I get a feeling that code words are being used here to say far more insidious things. Shame on you and please stay out of my "hood."

signed,

young urban professional

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 7:32 AM

clinton hill would be another "white bread" nabe in 10 years.

Posted by: armchairwarrior at July 3, 2008 8:07 AM

bxgrl forges her own username precisely so she can pose as a "victim" and whine. The regulars on this board have seen it time and again.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 8:47 AM

Can we get more dramatic, 9:04? Plenty of people with solid, legal incomes are interested in homes, even in "fringe" areas (hate that term). Just because you are not interested in living there, does not mean that others feel the same. This looks like a perfectly good house in a neighborhood with strong community activism, pride of place, and some really beautiful homes in a desireable location. I'm not going to damn the entire neighborhood because of an unfortunate and horrible crime, when 99% of the time nothing horrible, or even exciting happens. If everyone deserted a neighborhood because of a crime, there would be no one left in the entire city, because every neighborhood from the best to the worst, has had a horrific crime at one time or another.

To state that no one reputable could get a mortgage is nonsense. You seem to forget that most people come to the table with decent down payments, and the ability to pay for what they want, whether that is a million dollar plus home, or not. If someone's credit is good, their finances in order, and they have their ducks lined up, they can get a mortgage. If that was not the case, this blog would be out of business as real estate would be dead in the water. Many "honest people", as you call them, would jump at the chance to own a home, and this house and this block would be just fine for many.

- Montrose Morris

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 10:18 AM

^^^Mr. B, can't you impose some sort of word limit on posts^^^

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 10:44 AM

Lovely block, great corner of the neighborhood. Price is a couple $100k too high (the same can be said for the rest of Brownstone Brooklyn.) It will sell, my guess $1.1 - $1.3 million.

Posted by: qis4quincy at July 3, 2008 11:00 AM


9:04 That is more about the company you keep than anything else. I pay my taxes and don't deal in stolen property or narcotics nor do I know anyone who does. I believe I fit your description as honest and I often work a 14hour day. I live just down the road from this house and I moved my family from the UWS.

There is a dynamic here that you are missing. The choices, in Brooklyn, for beautiful (and historic) family accomodation are limited. I recognise that Park Slope, Carol Gardens and other areas are also beautiful but for families wanting to go somewhere quiter still, both FG and CH are valid choices particularly if you are of a certain personality type.

My family did not have to leave Manhattan (we still own our condo on the UWS) we did not have to move to CH, we could afford PS or CG. The fact is I want to be part of change and I recognise what CH has become so far, and where it is going. I am not writing to boast (this is an anominous process). I feel sorry for those people in the area that have very little but I would say to them that anything is possible and you can create anything from nothing. The solution is not to bring everyone down it is to lift everyone up.

I can say from first hand experience of a very great man that I knew personaly - my father. He was the son of very poor immigrant farmers. They spoke very little english and were poorly educated. My father learnt not just English but 4 other languages as well, he educated himself in the hardest circumstances and became an attorney, he became vice-consul to the country of his parents and he never stopped helping people. He passed no money onto me, but he passed a belief that I could do anything if I work hard. He taught me never to give up and he taught me that all people are equal and that all people have potential. I am not smart or entitled and I am not better than one single person that I pass on the street each day, I just have a belief system that allows me to do anything.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 11:29 AM

Interesting post there 11:29am.

Can we talk about my problems now?

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 11:40 AM

You can talk about anything you like. I wouldn't have posted that at the beginning of the HOTD but I started typing a response to 904 and it just came out. Not meaning to lecture.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 11:55 AM

I thought that was a great family story, 11:29. Your father must have been an amazing person and it was it is such a classic American immigrant tale. I wish brownstoner would set up a genealogy thread so Brooklynites could post their family stories. NOP writes wonderful stories about growing up in Crown Heights.

Posted by: bxgrl at July 3, 2008 12:00 PM

montrose morris = bxgrl = NOP

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 12:04 PM

All the CH haters are annoying. I'm glad Mr. UWS'der wrote what he did. The fear of black people on these threads is palpable at times. I was been chastised by a number of posters when I pointed out the RACISM of the thread on the Washington Avenue HOTD this week.

Thank you UWS'der, not that I totally "buy" your supposed dearth of advantages (maybe you're not entitled, as you say, but you've had advantages that many people have not had or could, frankly, have access to in the US), your perspective and attitude should give some guidance to those who are stuck in the prison of what might be termed the "fantasy of security", those who might have trouble dealing with African-Americans who tell us that only PS, CG, BH et al are places worthy of being including on the Mount Olympus of Brownstone Brooklyn.

I feel that FG and CH are the Elysian Fields frankly (who wants to live on Mount Olympus?) AND we still qualify as wonderful communities within Brownstone Brooklyn, not the hand-maidens or poor cousins to the exalted Slope buyers.

I positively love FG. I'm not is some fog of admiration though and recognize the positive sides of other neighborhoods. I lived at a prime-UES address and eventually grew to hate it...for many reasons. I prefer FG and wouldn't go back to the UES unless forced to by things outside my control.

FGG

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 12:55 PM

guest=guest=guest

Posted by: Biff_Champion at July 3, 2008 1:33 PM

"It's nice to know that even if I go away for two weeks, resident d-bag, Biff, is still here."

Um, yeah...you thought faded guest trolls will ever keep me away? No chance.

Posted by: Biff Champion at July 3, 2008 1:36 PM

what did 9:04 write? why do they delete comments and keep the responses. so confusing delete it all.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 1:41 PM

FGG - you were chastized because of your charge of racism where there was none. People like you who bring up racsim so liberally and loosely devalue the impact of the charge of racism. Your kneejerk overuse washes it of its significance.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 1:49 PM

FGG = bigot.

Nobody said they were afraid of black people. People said there is crime happening here on the street just like on the one where the other HOTD was. Not black people. Criminals.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 2:20 PM

I think FGG is a racist troll trying to elicit a race discussion where there was none.

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 3:21 PM

Still trying to sleep with bxgrl, Biff?

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 4:12 PM

Excuse me, but I must point out that the discussions about CH (or any other neighborhood where there are many black residents) on Brownstoner often smell of racism.

Words like "fringe" (fringe of what, can I ask?...what, is it the fringe of civilization, the outer, utmost, little edge of the frontier where a civilized person could even dream of living?) and "dicey"...

I'm very sorry there are many participants on this blog who walk around with such a level of privilege they have no idea about institutional racism and their own benefits from it. Their entrenchment in privilege certainly comes out in they way they write.

The topics on the CH houses the last week as well as a couple of other threads were disgusting in their fascination with supposed incidents of black people attacking white people. Frankly, most social mechanisms work out in the reverse in this society.

Very tiresome there appear to be a bunch of posters here who seem to fit that model of distasteful "gentrifiers". I guess I shouldn't be surprised, the amount of disrespect one sees by the young kids moving into parts of Brooklyn toward black residences passing on the sidewalk depresses me.

I guess it's to be expected in a very unfair economy that also promotes so much selfishness and self-involvement.

It is heartening, though, that the UWS'der guy was able to state his situation. There are many decent people who are checking out Brownstoner to see what's going on around the boro. I wish they would post comments and call out posters who give the impression the blog caters to mostly annoying, selfish gentrifiers. At least the era (just last year) of "my kitchen counter's cooler than yours" appears to be over!

FGG

Posted by: guest at July 3, 2008 5:42 PM

I'm always confused by your comments Mr. B. Exactly where are the plaster mouldings you mention, cause they sure aren't apparent from the listing photos. All I see is some faux picture trim and crown....

Posted by: guest at July 4, 2008 1:40 PM

Those are plastic mouldings, not plaster.

Posted by: guest at July 4, 2008 5:40 PM

Those are plastic mouldings, not plaster.

Posted by: guest at July 4, 2008 6:22 PM

There's so much misinformation on this thread.

First, the property will probably sell, given recent comps, size and condition, for about $1.6mm. See recent comps:

59 Lefferts Pl - Sld 2/6/2008 - $1,500,000
65 Lefferts Pl - Sld 11/21/2007 - $1,500,000
23 Lefferts Pl - Sld 11/9/2007 - $1,415,000
63 Lefferts Pl - Sld 7/10/2006 - $1,400,000

All four homes needed substantial work. This house appears to be in excellent condition (though no one is doing any cartwheels over the kitchen and baths).

100 Lefferts Pl is presently on the market for $1.8mm. Another great house. I think both 64 and 100 Lefferts sell for more than $1.6mm with 100 Lefferts (five story gem) fetching the higher of the two.

Second, the property is located in Clinton Hill not PLG.

Third, the property is located in the federal designated - Clinton Hill South Historic District which qualifies it for the landmark preservation tax credit (10% of property value - see Trust for Architectural Easement).

Fourth, this section of Clinton Hill is included in the newly proposed expansion of the Clinton Hill Historic District.

Posted by: guest at July 5, 2008 4:37 AM

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