Closing Bell: Two Trees Talks Dock Street Development

Nope. Don't want it.

Posted by: guest at June 2, 2008 4:53 PM

And will 2 Trees fill the retail the same way they've filled the empty store fronts at
Washington & Front? Wow! More empty street-level storefronts!

Nope. Don't want any of it.

Posted by: guest at June 2, 2008 8:06 PM

What's up with Dumbo? Why are there 20 apartments for sale at 70 Washington at the moment? That's a pretty substantial number.

Posted by: guest at June 2, 2008 8:32 PM

Bad for NY. Bad for Brooklyn. Bad for Dumbo Really bad for the Brooklyn bridge. Good for two trees.

Posted by: guest at June 2, 2008 11:57 PM

Regarding 70 Washington Street: the listings are no doubt based on the realisation that upon Two Trees' development of the properties just to the south of the building (i.e where St. Ann's is located, etc.), the folks at 70 Washington Street will lose their now incredible views - - they'll be looking at a brick wall!!! So...it's sell now before the construction begins.

Posted by: guest at June 2, 2008 11:57 PM

I'm surprised only 20 apartments are for sale at 70 Washington. You'd think everyone would be selling due to the prospect of this Dock Street monstrosity!

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 8:49 AM

I looked at 70 Washington and it was very clear those buildings would -- or could -- go up. People were either stupid to buy or thought they had 4-5 years to live there and enjoy their views and then sell to some other loser who won't read the prospectus at all.

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 10:20 AM

The school is merely the sugar to get the lousy medicine down the throat of the community. They know that the proposed building is entirely to large, inappropiate and out of context. They are hoping to take advantage of anxious parents of school age children to support this awful development in order to build support. Funny, when asked in the past, they wouldn't allow any schools in their existing buildings. ? I guess they waited until it served their,and not the commuintys, purpose!

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 10:27 AM

say what you want, but two trees has been a pretty good developer for Dumbo. quality conversions, actively seek out cultural groups and cut them deals, don't rent to every chain out there (they've turned people down).

And the building code for schools are very different than for regular buildings. They just can't ADD a school to existing buildings. They can -- and have -- gotten a dayacre in there finally.

I suspect the plan will be trimmed back, the school size will double, and we'll end up with a pretty nice compromise. This is their golden egg after all -- they have more invested in not destroying the area as the rest of us.

(now -- go ahead and post that I'm a two trees employee.. bcs I know people can't have opinions here that might go against the PC view without that accusation.)

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 11:29 AM

You are a Two Tree's employee. If not you are an easily deceived and easily duped sucker. I have a bridge for sale. Would you like to purchase it? Oh I forgot you'll let Two Trees sell the bridge out for you! They get the money you get nothing. But at least they'll do a "quality conversion" as they defile and destroy our shared cultural landmarks!

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 12:23 PM

this is 11:29 again: you know, I've listened to the anti-Dock St people who are out some weekends on Montague and they sound a little like 12;23. when they talk about contextual zoning, and I say, well, this would be in scale with ALL the surrounding Witnesses operations, they just go nuts. When I ask about their visuals (that are drawn from the POV of a cockroach), they go nuts.

I'm open to being against this thing. I just haven't heard anything convincing from the opposition. Sorry.

Posted by: guest at June 3, 2008 4:19 PM