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June 19, 2008
House of the Day: 307 Winthrop Street
This modest but architecturally attractive limestone at 307 Winthrop Street in Prospect Lefferts Gardens got our attention with its $550,000 asking price. While the facade looks nice, we're a little worried about what the interior must look like, given that it's currently chopped up into three units with a total of nine (!) bedrooms. The block is also not the neighborhood's finest. Then again, the listing says that the owners "will listen to all offers" so perhaps there's a deal to be had.
307 Winthrop Street [Century 21] GMAP P*Shark
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Is this in Beirut?
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 1:20 PM
they're probably counting every room that's not a bathroom as a bedroom. for some reason some realtors think a high bedroom-count means something.
Posted by: Jimmy Legs at June 19, 2008 1:36 PM
"While the facade looks nice,..."
I wouldn't go that far.
Sweet fence, and I like how the neighbors built that wall within 3 inches of the tree.
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 1:40 PM
My guess w/o looking at asking: $0.5M
Not too far off. But there's no way I would pay that amount when the bottom floor is almost sub-zero. I'd bid 0.4M or less assuming lack of photos = catastrophe inside.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 1:41 PM
Dogpatch
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 1:52 PM
The picture on the NY Times posting is hilarious! There's a minivan blocking most of the picture, and all seven of the pictures are the same. Also, on the NYT, the door is (or was) white.
I'd like to offer 20 bucks. Do you think they'll listen?
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 1:52 PM
It could use a new Fiberama awning.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 19, 2008 1:53 PM
why buy this when you can buy a townhouse in park slope for 2.8 mill!?! A la di is so great!
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 1:54 PM
i agree, 1:54.
went there last night. the beet ravioli were SOOOO good!!!
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:00 PM
i heard that daveinbedstuy summers here.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:09 PM
Al di la
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:11 PM
Fugly!
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:16 PM
If I had the downpayment i would buy this and then get abunch of my friends to live there and pay rent. Gut the bottom floor and have punk shows. Other than that this place is a peice of shit.
ZING
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:18 PM
Jeez, you are all talking about peoples' homes. I'm sure they'd all prefer living in one of those multimillion coops on Prospect Park West, but this is what they can afford.
Posted by: Brooklynnative at June 19, 2008 2:27 PM
I would prefer that too but the place I live is falling apart.
with that being said who will pay 550k for this if its a dump inside?
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:35 PM
Ya'll asked for more affordable HOTDs....
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:38 PM
Brooklynnative -
You're right, and my comments were a little mean-spirited. I think my frustration tends to come from brokers who think they can get away with posting obtuse information and partially-obstructed photos (or no photos) and still get people to show up and pay more than a house is really worth. I'm sure the people who live here are perfectly nice as will be the people who eventually settle in here; any derision on my part that went their way was unintentional and unnecessary...
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 2:39 PM
using google streetview, the place to the left in the photo is a junky looking bodega, with the subway entrance right in front, and on a busy street. guess the steel door is to keep out the noise and drunk people.
but for lower price and decent interior, this could be a liveable home.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 2:54 PM
i'm surprised the What is on this one. here's another over priced house that needs a ton of work to be nice probably in a questionable neighborhood.
yuck.
go buy a new apartment is a decent neighborhood for the same money.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 3:02 PM
Manitoba, are you the real Handsome Dick Manitoba? (not that I'd have any way of knowing.) I just sold my old record collection today which included the Dictators' first three albums.)
Posted by: Brooklynnative at June 19, 2008 3:03 PM
I wonder if the RE tax is really $727/month? $8224 p.a. is about twice what I'm paying in Lefferts manor for a larger more valuable house. Perhaps because it's three family?
Posted by: Bob Marvin at June 19, 2008 3:14 PM
Brooklynnative -
No, I am not the Handsomest Man in Rock n' Roll, but I love the fact that you acknowledged the reference. I thought calling myself "Top Ten" or "Ross the Boss" might have been lost on all.
Plus, I felt like paying homage to one of NYC's greatest stewards.
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 3:47 PM
I also just noticed you sold off your Dictators' albums (especially their 2nd and 3rd oft-hard to find LPs) ... brings a tear to my eyes. Anyway, sorry to have hijacked this thread to talk about one of the most dynamic bands in rock. WWHDMD?
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 3:52 PM
That has to be a typo. $727/YEAR is probably the right #.
1, 2, and 3 famlies are all classed the same for prop tax
4+ is diff.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 4:06 PM
Yeah, somehow I didn't think the real Handsome Dick would be cruising a Brooklyn Real Estate Blog. I also doubt he'd give a rat's ass about insulting the people that live in that HOD. Am I the first person to recognize the name?
Posted by: Brooklynnative at June 19, 2008 4:10 PM
HDM is actually a surprisingly sensitive man and (not so surprisingly) very bright and nice, another reason to use his name as a pseudonym.
I think you are the first person to catch the reference here - most people think it's a reference to the Canadian province.
You are also right that he couldn't care less about a Brooklyn real estate blog.... maybe one about Avenue B, but even then, that's dubious.
Posted by: Manitoba at June 19, 2008 4:21 PM
My only problem with this block is the people who live inside this house. I'm thrilled to learn that the landlord is selling. The whole block will be thrilled to get rid of this crew of renters.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 4:28 PM
isnt this area flatbush?
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 4:44 PM
this isnt prospect-lefferts gardens...i would call this neighborhood either east flatbush or wingate...either way west of nostrand is flatbush and the area aint all that hot. but i would seriously consider something like this if i had the money to fix it up. train station is steps from your house.
Posted by: aj at June 19, 2008 4:50 PM
what would really be entertaining is if commenters 1 and 2 shared their witty thoughts in person with the owners of the house and some residents of the area. smart-ass chicken s**t.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at June 19, 2008 5:54 PM
What would really be entertaining is if BrooklynLove shared his witty thoughts in person with commenters 1 and 2.
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 6:17 PM
Manitoba's
99 Ave. B, New York, NY 10009 (nr. 6th Street)
Handsome Dick has a bar in NYC that has live bands playing from time to time
http://nymag.com/listings/bar/manitobas/
Posted by: guest at June 19, 2008 6:20 PM
aj,
It IS Prospect Lefferts Gardens--Wingate/East Flatbush starts a block east, across New York Avenue.
Here's a good on-line map:
http://www.planetplg.com/images/plg-map.gif
4:44,
yes, it is Flatbush, as is all of PLG.
Posted by: Bob Marvin at June 19, 2008 7:08 PM
anon - i would welcome the opportunity.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at June 19, 2008 7:33 PM
Hey don't knock the fence - even the best brooklyn brownstones have disgusting chain link fences in the back gardens.
Posted by: guest at June 20, 2008 8:39 AM
shitty house/shitty neighborhood..
Posted by: guest at June 20, 2008 10:47 AM
Bob Marvin,
I stand corrected. But that particular intersection (Nostrand and Winthrop) doesn't have a PLG feel to it in my opinion. I associated PLG with areas such as Flatbush and Winthrop, Bedford and Rutland, etc. I now see the boundaries are clarkson, ocean, empire, and ny ave. so its right near the border i guess.
Posted by: aj at June 20, 2008 10:47 AM
I walk by this place every day. It is right next ot Winthrop subway station near Kings County Hospital. there is always a group of teens hanging outside of it. My guess is that it is a mess inside.
Posted by: guest at June 20, 2008 11:00 AM
This is Flatbush. White People please go home and leave us alone.
Posted by: guest at June 20, 2008 12:35 PM
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