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June 11, 2008

Co-op of the Day: 360 Clinton Avenue

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After nine weeks on the market, this one-bedroom at 360 Clinton Avenue in Clinton was just reduced a modest $20,000 to an asking price of $370,000. We suspect the ultimate selling price will be closer to $350,000 if not a bit below, but the seller clearly put some effort into renovating the place so it'll be hard to let go. (The apartment directly upstairs changed hands for $275,000 in 2004 but who knows what kind of shape it was in.) Speaking of renovating, any thoughts on how this one turned out? In this case, we actually like the exposed brick. Any wild guesses about the two things we don't particularly care for (other than the painful "Clinton Hills" reference)?
360 Clinton Avenue [Douglas Elliman] GMAP P*Shark




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This is a nice, compact apartment for a sophisticated single or young couple (older couples accumulate too much junk to fit in a small unit like this). I think the reno is very good, I think the square footage is more like 580 than 680, and I could not find a referene as to what floor it is on. If it is a first floor unit, then it is less desirable. There is a lot to be said for neat, move-in condition like this, and as long as the co-op is in good financial shape, this looks a-ok at 350 (if it is on the first floor), or 370 (if it is on an upper floor).

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 1:04 PM

Recessed lighting!!!

Posted by: Park Sloper at June 11, 2008 1:06 PM

Brownstoner- you just call it "Clinton" as if it were in Hell's Kitchen. We should all start calling it The Clinton Hills, or North, North Slope.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 1:07 PM

seems like a great place but i am having a slight problem with entering in the kitchen first off the common hallway...

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 1:07 PM

Can't be too choosy at that price 1:07

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 11, 2008 1:11 PM

Not only recessed lighting but TRACK lighting? The horror! Otherwise it's actually pretty cute.

Posted by: arby at June 11, 2008 1:11 PM

There are better deals in the Clinton Hill Co-ops. They are priced similarly, but are about 150 sq ft bigger. and many have fantastic views.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 1:14 PM

Maintenance is reasonable. Place appears to be in decent shape as well. But if you're a M-F commuter to Manhattan, the G train is not among the swiftest rides to work. And it's a long walk to Atlantic Center. I think it's a good deal at $350-$360K.

Posted by: Fjorder at June 11, 2008 1:53 PM

Duh. The C train to the A train. Not so bad of a commute...

Posted by: Fjorder at June 11, 2008 1:58 PM

No dishwasher

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:02 PM

Is that entrance portico missing its columns?
It looks oddly cantilevered off those skinny pilasters.

Posted by: sam at June 11, 2008 2:09 PM

For those of you familiar with the neighborhood -- is there a distinct difference between this area and Ft. Greene? If so where do the lines start to blend?

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:14 PM

there is/was a 2br rental on the top for for around $2000.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:23 PM

What is the source of Brownstoner's anti-recessed-lighting fetish? I gutted my Center Slope brownstone, which had no original detail left anyway, and did it in a transitional style with recessed lighting. I LOVE finally having enough light! LOVE LOVE LOVE it! My ground floor has a 7-foot ceiling and it was a dark, depressing tomb till I installed recessed lighting.

I mean, I could see the objection if you put the stuff in a perfectly preserved PPW mansion with original ornate ceiling plasterwork, but for a place like this...? I don't get it.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:34 PM

"For those of you familiar with the neighborhood -- is there a distinct difference between this area and Ft. Greene? If so where do the lines start to blend?"

This place is one block from Fort Greene, which starts one block West at Vanderbilt Avenue. So, not such a huge difference. You're a bit farther from Fort Greene Park, but you're otherwise fairly close to most of the restaurants and amenities on Dekalb. And this end is closer to the C train, and just steps from the G, which is convenient.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:45 PM

Is being close to the G-train a plus or minus?

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 2:57 PM

If the G is your only option, it's kind of a minus.

However, since the C is extremely close, having the G nearby as a second option is a plus. It makes getting to Carroll Gardens and Williamsburg / Greenpoint a breeze.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 3:02 PM

the g to midtown manhattan is also pretty good -- quick ride to lic (and you always get a seat!), then transfer to e/v.

Posted by: z at June 11, 2008 3:14 PM

I have lived in this part of Clinton Hill (Clinton Ave by the G train) since 1999. Frequency of service on the G train has improved significantly during that time. When I first moved to Clinton Hill, rush hour service seemed pretty uneven (i.e., on a Monday between 8:00 a.m and 9:30 a.m. trains would come every 10 minutes, while on the following day between 8:00 a.m and 9:30 a.m. trains would come somewhere between every 12 and 18 minutes)

While the G train still has its problems (few cars, no direct connection to Manhattan and often crowded cars during rush hours), its not as bad as some believe. During the a.m. rush hour, it seems to come around every 7 to 10 mins. During the evening rush, it seems to come about every 10 mins. It does a fairly good job of connecting passengers to the "A","C" and "F" on one end and the "L" on the other end.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 3:21 PM

I live in this building and commute every day to manhattan. It takes me 35 minutes to Chelsea taking the G to Hoyt and switching to the A/C. Its a great building well maintained building with an awesome assortment of owners. Highly recommended and this price seems about right.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 3:21 PM

Specifically about the apartment. You walk in the door and then immediately through the kitchen. Not!

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 4:00 PM

I live in this building and I LOVE it. The neighbors are friendly, the pre-war apartments are big, with nice details, lots of tall windows and the area is quiet. I take the G to the A at Hoyt and arrive at W 4th quickly, or I walk to the Lafayette stop on the C - very close at Greene St., you can also take the C at Clinton Washington which is closer.

Posted by: petite maoiste at June 11, 2008 4:39 PM

2:23 pm: Where did you see/hear about the 2,000 2br rental?

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 4:45 PM

I actually know the couple that owns this unit...and I have to say its been cozy and welcoming every time I've been there. I wish them luck!

PS - hard to believe its only 580-600 sq ft. It feels bigger than my 1BR, which is about 725 SqFt.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 5:07 PM

its purdy.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 5:34 PM

I live really close to this, lovely apartment buildings on Clinton Ave, I wish I'd known about a 2K rental here. This looks like a better deal to me than co-op village because the architecture's a bit less foreboding and it's closer to the C-train and stores on Fulton. (Not, I realize, that stores on Fulton are all that great, but they are convenient.)

Posted by: Heather at June 11, 2008 10:02 PM

I used to live at 360 clinton and left a year ago to buy a brownstone (thanks to this site, I had a much better idea of what I was doing/getting myself into -- so thanks for that). I watched the neighborhood change (for better and for worse), but the building was also great to come home to. It is safe, the super is there and if you are nice to him he will do little things here and there for you. The one-bedrooms range in size depending on which line you are on. I was on a line where the apartment was about 800 sq. ft. There are other lines where one-bedrooms are more like 650 sq ft. At any rate, I sold my coop myself (i.e. FSBO) at around the range they are asking here. Then a year later, I saw that the apartmnt below mine went for something like $450K -- WTF? The owner had it for about a year, so I was kind of stunned (it sold the previous year for $375K). The long and the short of it is, I loved this building. It has everything you need (right, no w/d in individual apartments due to old pipes), and the place is solid. If I ever need to go back into the coop world, I'd head right back to 360. Of course, I'd go for one with two bathrooms, but that's because my brownstone has spoiled me. Good luck with this sale.

Posted by: guest at June 11, 2008 10:10 PM

I have many friends that live in this building (I live two doors down from it.) It is a very nice building, and the neighbours are very nice. They are currently wrapping up a huge re-bricking of sections of the building. In spite of the walking into your kitchen I think these apartments are lovely. The maintenance fee is higher because of the recent work, but overall I would have to say that it is a great building. I wish we would've had the money to buy into this place years ago.

Posted by: gwbrubaker at June 12, 2008 11:08 AM

I bought in this building recently and popped into the open house a couple weeks ago just to see how other people in the building had handled a renovation... I'd seen the floorplan online and knew the apartment was smaller than mine, but i was surprised by how open it felt (my kitchen is separated from the living area so perhaps i was just jealous by comparison). i really liked the contrast of the white painted brick wall in the living room and the dark stained oak floors -- it felt very modern on top of the great pre-war details (parquetry in the LR floor, 10" base boards, picture rails in all the rooms?).

Posted by: guest at June 12, 2008 5:10 PM

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