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May 14, 2008

Park It, Slope: Alternate-Side Regs Tossed 'Indefintely'

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It's good to be a Sloper. Especially, nowadays, one who owns a car. The Department of Transportation is suspending alternate side of the street parking in the neighborhood starting this Monday, according to a post on Gowanus Lounge. The suspension will be in effect "indefinitely" for the area from Pacific Street to 15th Street and from 4th Avenue to the park, or until the DOT changes the neighborhood's signs so they reflect new regulations that cut restricted parking periods down from three hours to 90 minutes. GL reports that similar suspensions are on tap for Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens and Red Hook. The big question right now, probably, is whether this is going to mean a very dirty summer for Park Slope curbs.
Alternate Side Parking Suspended in Park Slope [Gowanus Lounge]
Photo by redxdress.




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No parking tickets means more sanitation tickets for property owners! Mark my words!

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:02 AM

Clean up in front of your houses people....I believe the ordinance includes 18" out from the curb as well???!!!!

However, Bed Stuy still gets 2 street cleanings per week and trash pickup 3X PER WEEK!!!!!!! My block is cleaner than many I've been to in BH aand PS...but that's also because there are a lot of retired people on the street and they pick up in front of their houses. e all shovel each others' sidewalks too when it snows

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:08 AM

new yorkers are litterbugs. It won't be long before the streets are looking awful.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:09 AM

wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo for me so i don't have to move my car. booohooooooooo for me because my super never cleans the sidewalks as it is!

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:10 AM

Pray for rain just like in Victorian times. Maybe you could all do some kind of Victorian re-enacttment thing complete with cholera, etc!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:10 AM

My Block is always a mess - People just throw their trash on the street, in planters, on the sidewalk, etc. What is with people in this city that dont care if garbage is strewn around their streets even their own block?

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:13 AM

bad things are the blocks near bars/restaurants and along the parks...unless they put out more public garbage cans we are in for more mice, bugs, and smells this summer. folks visiting need to clean up after themselves and not throw their crap on the ground

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:13 AM

I agree. Alternate side laws are more for generating revenue than they are for street cleaning. The street cleaner on my block at least one out of 3 days is overflowing so it actually lays down more leaves and trash than it collects. But you can bet the cops are right behind it ticketing people who move back early as well as in front of it handing out tickets for those who would rather not have trash dumped by the "cleaner" in front of their house. Anyone notice why the poorer less-white areas have more days of inconveniencing owners (ie Bed-Stuy) than more wealthy whiter areas that are actually dirtier as far as streets go (ie Williamsburg)? I'm white and live in Williamsburg, but couldn't help noticing that my friends in Bed-Stuy who live on a very nice very cean brownstone block have to move their cars 4 times per week while we only have 2. Our streets stay filthy (because of the "cleaner" dumping garbage) and theirs is always spotless.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:15 AM

Alternate side parking is a joke--they NEVER sweep anyway--simply a revenue generating scheme for the city.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:16 AM

Amen 9:13 Amen

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:16 AM

Dave, I find even the busier BH streets (Montague, Henry, Hicks) clean, despite the tourist and local traffic. For some reason, though, I often find Court Street in Cobble Hill relatively messy, which is odd since the side streets and Smith Street aren't like that.

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 14, 2008 9:17 AM

They get swept in Bed Stuy...

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:19 AM

This Manhattanite knows where he will be parking his car when he goes on his 10-day vacation. Will save me a nice hunk of change that the garage charges. :)

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:20 AM

I LIKE TO THROW GARBAGE IN BUGABOOS WHEN THE MOMS ARENT LOOKING

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:21 AM

Yes, the BH streets are cleaner. Granted, the heavily commercial streets are always messier...Fulton St in bed Stuy case in point.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:22 AM

bite me 9:20. leave your car in your own neighborhood. we have enough problems here in PS w/o you dumping your car here

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:23 AM

How much is off street parking in PS??? Only $175 in Bed Stuy!!! Im thinking of starting an arbitrage business between here and Manhattan.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:27 AM

9:20's comment points to a problem we can anticipate in PS: warehousing of cars, making it more difficult for people who live in the area to use their cars and for people using the park to have access to the park. It's gonna be a long, hot summer....

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:28 AM

The DOT press release states that the commercial streets (5th & 7th ave) will be cleaned more often. As long as everyone does their part and cleans in front of their property on a regular basis, things should work out for the best.
As a commercial/residential building owner in ps, I make sure the front of the building is kept clean at all times.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:29 AM

PS will become a long-term parking lot with NO movement at all. I predict you'll never find a spot, ever.

(I plan on parking my car there for all of June)

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:29 AM

9:20, you better strap in a baby seat or two in the back so your ride blends in. If they suspect a car is from Manhattan, it usually ends up on blocks when the driver returns to pick it up.

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 14, 2008 9:31 AM

PS just became long-term parking.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:32 AM

Not nice to rile these people up 9:29!!! You're upsetting them on two counts...first you are engaged in a form of PS bashing and secondly on a social issue second only to stroller moms!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:32 AM

Biff...don't talk about crime in PS unless you can support it with the facts!!!!! You're going to start something that will be off topic

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 9:35 AM

9.15, i don't know where you live in williamsburg but I live on N7 and we have to move our cars 4 times a week.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:40 AM

This is great--I'm a Brooklyn Heights street parker and drive infrequently. I'm happy to have a nice long-term option for the Summer! Hoping for a park block...

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:44 AM

Stupidest thing i've ever heard...no upside to this for anyone really. When the overrode the mayor and re-established free parking Sundays did they suspend all rules until the signs were changed back? Enforce by whatever signs you're parked between and that's it.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:44 AM

GREAT NEWS! I have 6 cars that I spend hours moving from side to side in Prospect Heights. Now I know where I can park them for a couple of weeks. Think of the gas I'll save.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:49 AM

there's a wave of window breakers in PS/PH, so if you Manhattanites want to park your cars, be my guest.

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42398

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 9:52 AM

Guys - why do any of you think it will take more than a couple days to change out the signs? Seems like you all are misreading "temporarily" as "indefinitely." Have fun picking up your cars at the tow lot.

Posted by: Putnamdenizen at May 14, 2008 9:56 AM

Why not Boerum Hill? A vast majority of this 'hood is filled with townhouses. They have places to store their garbage so it would be easier to relax the rules there as well.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:01 AM

Putnamdenizen, we're talking about a government agency. Over/under on the sign changing project is 3 months, and I'm taking the over. Seems like a safe bet--it took, what, 19 years for them to re-pave Columbia Street.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:22 AM

I think I'll move my 2 cars from my driveway it Ditmas to Park Slope for the Summer just for the heck of it.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:23 AM

Daveinbedstuy :you mentioned stroller moms in a post, you're so clever. You are our winner you useless tool.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:42 AM

Putnamdenizen @ 9:56 is right ... do you think the City will delay when all that ticket revenue is gone?!

A few weeks tops.

Wow, that's a whopping 6 car moves saved!

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:46 AM

Thank you 10:42...what have you actually added to the thread, you useless tool??

Don't start calling names, I know more words than you do!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 10:51 AM

i lvie in an area with no opposite side
i park in front of my house for free all week only move it on friday and get my spot back on sunday night

my block is clean and beautiful

brooklyn is disgusting enjoy the garbage

imagine paying 2m for a home and no place to park your car

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:52 AM

i live in an area with no opposite side
i park in front of my house for free all week only move it on friday and get my spot back on sunday night

my block is clean and beautiful

brooklyn is disgusting enjoy the garbage

imagine paying 2m for a home and no place to park your car

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 10:52 AM

Imagine paying 2 million for a home and having to use window air conditioners!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 14, 2008 10:54 AM

I live in brooklyn heights and I'm moving two of my cars to PS for the summer. Do people actually stay in brooklyn in the summer?

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 11:27 AM

will be conducting a vigil of outsiders using PS as a long term parking lot and slashing some tires. dump cars here at your own risk

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 11:35 AM

will be conducting a vigil of outsiders using PS as a long term parking lot and slashing some tires. dump cars here at your own risk

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 11:36 AM

i'll be conducting a vigil of tireslashers and will slash your throat

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 11:55 AM

of course people stay in brooklyn for the summer

you never saw do the right thing?

doubledutch tournies

midwest jackass

go back to omaha already

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 12:00 PM

I think posters here made several excellent points. imagine paying two million dollars for a house and a)having no place at all to park your car, and b) having to use window air conditioners like folks living in low-rent apartments.
The Brooklyn market is a head-scratcher.
To most of the country "Brooklyn" means muggings and low-lifes and crackheads. to a tiny percentage it means the place where I will spend two million dollars on an ancient rowhouse with no land and no modern mechanical systems.
I can't figure it out.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 12:17 PM

I always chuckle when I wander around Park Slope and notice just how many of the cars seem to be "visiting" from Vermont, PA, NH, MA, etc.

And now they'll complain about 'non-slopers' parking there.

REGISTER YOUR CAR LEGALLY liberal tight-wad and then get back to me.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 12:24 PM

I live in Prospect Heights and I think its easier to find parking in areas where you have to move your car 4x a week. Because of the constant rotation of cars, 99% of the time I find parking on my block, usually in front of my building. So, in addition to easy parking, we get to have clean streets and NO garbage smells during the summer since our trash gets picked up 3x a week. I'm very interested to see what happens to Park Slope this summer...

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 12:46 PM

Since I work for the Dept. of Transportation, I can tell you that the putting up the new signs will take a few weeks at most. The entire area of Park Slope should be completed by July, when alternate side of the street parking will resume with 90 minutes instead of 3 hours.

Not quite sure why everyone has assumed this will be for the entire summer.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 12:58 PM

12:17, you are a dumbass, that's why! Some people prefer older construction, which often boasts superior materials and details even if you dont get central air. Also, if someone has to explain the appeal of living in an urban area like Brooklyn without a yard vs. living in a godawful suburb with a reallll big backyard, then maybe you shouldnt live in the city! That's why we have suburbs, dummy, for people like you!

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:01 PM

I used to live in NJ and my air conditioning bill was around $500 a month and my heat was around $450 a month.

Honestly, I much prefer the window airconditioner. It's much more eco friendly and a HELL of a lot cheaper!

And btw, the 10 million dollar brownstones on the Upper West Side and West Village don't all have central air either.

So it's not just a "2 million dollar brooklyn thing"

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:14 PM

go park your suburu in south slope

park slope is filled with the biggest douchebags

brooklyn is over

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:23 PM

They might as well cancel it for good anyway beacause the sanitation department does not clean the streets anyway. Its quite sad the biggest city in the world is only worried about keeping Manhattan clean when there are 4 other boroughs.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:33 PM

you're just jealous, 1:23.

anyone who's taken a psych 101 class could tell you that someone who would spew that sentence is secretly envious and/or jealous.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:34 PM

1:33, I think it's even sadder that maybe it's that people in Manhattan are evolved enough not to litter as much as those in the outer boroughs. And I'm being serious.

And I live in Brooklyn. I just yelled at someone yesterday for throwing their dunkin donuts bag on Flatbush Avenue.

I plan to sweep the street in front of my house this summer.

You all can feel free to do the same.

It used to happen all the time.

Take some pride in your city and stop expecting everyone else to do the work for you.

What have YOU given to NYC lately?

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:36 PM

12:17 is an complete idiot. So you go and spend 2 mill on some pretentious cliff side house in CA with central air and when the wildfires and quakes get to you I will be in my Park Slope Limestone with my window A/C watchin your ass on the news crying for help.Sucka

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:38 PM

12:17 is a complete idiot. So you go and spend 2 mill on some pretentious cliff side house in CA with central air and when the wildfires and quakes get to you I will be in my Park Slope Limestone with my window A/C watchin your ass on the news crying for help.Sucka

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:38 PM

12:17 is a complete idiot. So you go and spend 2 mill on some pretentious cliff side house in CA with central air and when the wildfires and quakes get to you I will be in my Park Slope Limestone with my window A/C watchin your ass on the news crying for help.Sucka

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:38 PM

What have you given them lately? 1:36

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:44 PM

*If I see people litter, I say something. Some people were raised like pigs and don't seem to know right from wrong.
*If I see trash on my street or in the Park, I pick it up instead of kicking it around.
*I volunteer for Meals on Wheels.
*I tend a garden outside my house for all to enjoy.
*I tell people they are being rude if they try to run me over with their stroller.
*I will attend the meeting tonight to support Union Hall.

It's not much, but I do my best to do what I can.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 1:49 PM

This is terrible news. I was hoping for a drop on PS property values.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 2:13 PM

Your words are marked, 9:02. I absolutely agree with you.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 2:16 PM

*If I see people litter, I say something. Some people were raised like pigs and don't seem to know right from wrong.

Try that with some of these young punk kids on the street late some afternoon or on the subway with punk kids or some of the Carter era crazies who are still roaming the streets. You will be the next news headline.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 4:16 PM

I'm not afraid of punk kids.

You shouldn't be either.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 4:48 PM

11:55 -- slash my throat? take your meds psycho.

Posted by: guest at May 14, 2008 5:09 PM

This would be awesome news if the city issued some sort of residential parking sticker. When I lived in Jersey City and Hoboken, parking was as bad, if not worse than, Park Slope because of constant construction and new buidings with driveways. There is very little of that in Park Slope.

Parking permits throughout the city would actually help people park close to where they live and get rid of all the out-of-state vehicles parked on my block

Posted by: guest at May 15, 2008 8:36 AM

20 years experience says the only month PS streets are empty seems to be August. Parking eases when school ends for summer (less teachers, no more drop-offs and pick-ups) but gets more congested when all the college kids come home with their cars.

It's a roulette game finding parking. It's fate that says you get a space or not. Someone will pull out eventually. But when?

Some blocks (Montgomery Pl a prime example) have multi-car households who reserve their space by moving one car up to hold two spaces when they pull out in the other car. Very different than Sunset park where I've seen folding chairs used. Beware the retribution if you move that chair!

PS: Too many bumper guards. Too much vandalism and break-ins. Too little neighborliness. I don't care what state your plates are - just don't smash me when parking (especially you SUV drivers with high bumpers that miss those on cars and crush my headlight or fender - that's just jackassery on the part of the "light truck" makers and bad drivers who really don't need a soccer mom lumber hauling off road capable behemoth just to go to Trader Joes and Ikea on the weekend).

Hard to imagine there was no overnight parking allowed until some time in the 50s.

Posted by: guest at May 15, 2008 9:59 AM

I don't know why New York doesn't implement residential parking permits like they do in San Francisco. The way it works is that if you do not live in the neighborhood and do not have a parking permit, you can only park for a limited time before you can be ticketed. It would make everyone happy, the city who would have the permit fees and the residents who are then able to park in their own neighborhoods, (well maybe not the visitors who want to park for hours)...

Posted by: guest at May 15, 2008 11:58 AM

I agree with 11:58. DOT should rethink suspending street-cleaning without PS resident permits. I don't live in PS, but like others have pointed out, PS will become a parking lot over the summer. Plus, for people who actually use their cars, they're going to end up driving around even longer to find a spot!

By the way, there are already many blocks in Red Hook where you can park your car permanently (I also know of one stretch near Washington Square of this sort, but I'm not telling). Of course, in RH, your car might disappear.

Posted by: guest at May 15, 2008 6:04 PM

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