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May 21, 2008

Co-op of the Day: 205 Warren Street, #2D

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Another unit at the former St. Paul's Parish School at 205 Warren Street has just come on the market. A 1,300-square-foot apartment down the hall, which had been asking $995,000 back in December, closed for $975,000 in March, a strong vote of confidence in the building. Apartment 2D, by comparison, is 700 square feet and asking $625,000. It traded for as little as $466,000 less than a year ago, but it looks like the kitchen was renovated in the meantime. (Personally, we're not loving it.) We do love the overall vibe of this building and the windows and ceiling heights in these second-floor apartments are killer. Think they'll get their price on this one?
205 Warren Street, #2D [City Connections] GMAP P*Shark
Co-op of the Day: 205 Warren Street, #2A [Brownstoner]
Former Catholic School on Warren Street [Brownstoner]
Residential Sales 6/2/06 [Brownstoner]




Posted by Brownstoner at 12:39 PM | Comments (66)
Categories: Co-ops, Cobble Hill

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Looks to me like you'd break your neck when you sit up in bed.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 12:53 PM

is it me or does that ceiling height look really low?!

I hope the comment "ceiling heights in these second-floor apartments are killer" is either sarcasm or literalism!

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 12:55 PM

Don't run upstairs with socks on...long way to fall.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 12:57 PM

12:55 you get the moron of the day award...you've not even posted on the correct thread.

As for the condo...you others are right about that BR ceiling height. How in the world could you do a "wheelbarrel?"

And where are all the granite haters when you really need them????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:01 PM

The ceilings in the main room are fabulous. The bedroom would drive me nuts. I was in the market for this price range just a couple months ago in Park Slope. Maybe this neighborhood demands a better price than Center Slope, but this seems to be a tad high. The charm and the neighborhood might pull off this sale (plus, laundry in the apt).

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:04 PM

Is this the return of the infamous grey typed poster??

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 1:06 PM

12:55 = daveinpigstuy. It's arguing with itself again.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:08 PM

"Apartment 2D...is 700 square feet and asking $625,000. It traded for as little as $466,000 less than a year ago, but it looks like the kitchen was renovated in the meantime."

That's amazing that one can put $10K or $20K into a kitchen renovation and ask $159K more a year later in a weakening market!

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 1:12 PM

1:08...why would you think that i'd be going back and forth from signed in and a DB guest poster like yourself?

As far as calling BedStuy PigStuy, what neighborhood do you rent in???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:15 PM

Hi Dave,

Can't stand that granite. Looks like someone won the lottery and got drunk and woke up in a
showroom in Parsippany. That someone was me. Then I went upstairs and hit my head on the ceiling beam. What was I thinking?

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:16 PM

I have nothing against granit if its done nicely and in moderation, inlike this kitchen. The mention of the granite haters refers to a place listed here last week where everyone started dissing the granite countertops.

The ceiling beam is a much bigger problem. Plus it looks like that bedroom overlooks the livingroom as a loft space, or am i missing something. That's kind of a college level setup!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:20 PM

That's georgeous.

Posted by: KHuebbe at May 21, 2008 1:21 PM

I agree...gorgeous place...

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:24 PM

I have never seen it mentioned before here on the Brownstoner so I will introduce the subject...

This place has bad feng shui.

The ceiling beams are bad, ESPECIALLY in a bedroom. The other place that had bad feng shui was the condo that overlooked the cemetary. No Asians will ever be interested as buyers of these properties. Aiyy Yaa!!! Mo choy!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:25 PM

Spare us your juvenile reliance upon stereotypes, hatemonger.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:29 PM

daveinbedstuy - and you were the one hurling accusations of racism and stereotyping last week because someone said hasidic neighborhoods were safe.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:37 PM

1:29 do you even know what feng shui is???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:37 PM

Sure. Feng shui is that thing that all Asians (who tend to sound like "Aiyy Yaa" and "Mo choy" when they talk) believe in.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:40 PM

These two issues are serious abominations in architecture/building placement in the world of feng shui. They would both be considered unacceptable by ANYONE in terms of the feng shui of these properties.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:41 PM

Well who knows...maybe some non-asians will look at these properties. They're easier to understand anyways, huh?

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:42 PM

All Asians do not speak Cantonese 1:40...

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:42 PM

They don't all believe in feng shui either, hatemonger.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:44 PM

Last spring i started a search for an apartment,
and bid on this apartment. I totally loved it. Makes me mad that the person is moving out so quickly.

It was marketed for $435,000, To ask so much more for it now is ridiculous.

Luckily i found a much better apartment in Bk heights!

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:45 PM

1:45...was the kitchen the only thing upgraded since you looked at it back then???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 1:46 PM

Dave, anyone who is even a casual visitor to Brownstoner knows you're absolutely not a racist. Ignore the trolls.

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 1:49 PM

435K sounds AWFULLY cheap for this place for last year....

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:49 PM

hey dave,

looks like the kitchen was the only thing changed.

cant say i like all the granite. before it was linoleum but a serviceable layout. If i had bought the place i would have eventually upgraded the kitchen.

the apartment had a lot of charm. it took months before i stopped being annoyed that i didnt get it.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:52 PM

Studio.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:56 PM

1:49 i agree,

i ended up bidding $450k (my limit)
at the time I only knew that it went for even higher, and i wasnt surprised, it is well located.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:56 PM

That's not a bedroom. It's an open loft above the living room.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 1:56 PM

fabulous. this should sell fast.
just for the record: I love granite counters and table tops. Hate granite floors.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:01 PM

Dave may not be a racist, but his posting using pidgeon chinese sure is. Can't we do better than these kind of comments?

Posted by: Putnamdenizen at May 21, 2008 2:02 PM

how is this different than scarano's mezzanines?

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:02 PM

Can an average-sized person even stand up in that sleeping loft?

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:03 PM

1:56#1 and #3, I agree. Not to be picky, but how can this be called a one bedroom? Because you can see out of the windows down below?

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 2:04 PM

a seller calling this place a 1BR is deceiving. If I were in the market for a studio I wouldn't pay $625K.

Posted by: Fjorder at May 21, 2008 2:06 PM

apartments in this building are perpetually overpriced. cramped feeling apts and the common areas are worse than my freshman year college dorm.

great street, but they are apts for single people, and I think for that much, singles have choices in other areas that are more appealing.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:06 PM

HEY BROKERS:

There really is such thing as a camera lens that is TOO wide.

Truly.

Like the lenses so wide they compress the image making an already low ceiling look 2 feet off the floor.

I'm so sick of seeing these awful ultra-wide lense shots on listings. It makes the properties look terrible. I can't believe how little brokers know about their field and all the related elements. Architectural photography should be an area of expertise for brokers making this much money.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:06 PM

2:06 - i remember when i listed my place with an agent, i asked the photographer not to use a wide angle lens. in the end, i was convinced to go with the wide angle shots because, although distorted, they show a lot more of the space within the frame than the shots with a standard lense. but those shots of the sleeping loft in this listing are dreadful!

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:45 PM

Pretty, but teeny. I've been in that building and everything feels just a little bit too small.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:48 PM

this is one of those places that once you see it in person, you fall in love with it, i think...

pictures don't do it justice.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 2:49 PM

Putnamdenizen...Cantonese is not "pidgeon chinese." You have offended most of the original Chinese population that emmigrated mainly from Gaungzhou Province to NYC.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 3:34 PM

dave you are a racist asshat.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 3:40 PM

Facts 3:40, facts. You can't add anything and can't even use a language not invented by The What.

Your coffee break is long over

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 3:46 PM

I was also going to comment about the low ceilings before I realized it's a loft. you have to look at the photo a second before it hits you. I LOVE the wood ceilings.

I agree that this shouldn't be called a 1BR... according to my definition, in a 1BR you can have guests over and still feel comfortable having sex in your own bed. That would be difficult here (for non-exhibitionists). As to the bedroom ceiling: it looks high enough to do some good her-on-top bouncing, so I find the ceiling height to be perfectly adequate.

I think what throws the kitchen off is the floor. Otherwise it's fine. I think recessed lighting is actually no a bad choice in an interior space like this.

The question of price hinges on whether the 700sqft includes the loft (which reminds me of the 7.5th floor in "Being John Malkovich"). If so, then this shouldn't really go for more than $500k.

Posted by: sdrubbins at May 21, 2008 3:57 PM

But no wheelbarreling sdrubbins...see my first post. Putnamdenizen...in cantonese that's called "Lo Han Tzoi chat"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 4:07 PM

dave do you do any more racist impersonations?

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 4:20 PM

impersonations 4:20??? just because you can only speak one language, and badly at that, don't criticize my Cantonese pronunciation.

Impersonations are what people do on The Tonight Show I believe.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 4:27 PM

Dave do you stand up in bed to wheelbarrow?? Seems kind of dangerous. Why not just do it on the floor.

Or, to keep the sex talk centered on real estate/interior design, since this apartment is really a glorified studio, the whole thing is your bedroom. So you can go wheelbarrow on the couch, or on the horrible granite floor in the kitchen. How about up and down the stairs to the loft?

Posted by: sdrubbins at May 21, 2008 4:33 PM

dave how do you know how many languages I can speak? dui lay lo mo chow fan - special message for you.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 4:38 PM

very good 4:38 but that's the phrase that everyone knows in cantonese. Chun fai gweilo.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 4:42 PM

I may have seen it all now. An argument in Cantonese in a thread about a co-op on Warren Street...no wonder I love this website.

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 4:42 PM

Daveinpigsty is a racist piece of sh*t and quite a pathetic troll as well. I mean, does he/it really think we can't figure out that he/it is posting under different monikers: M.M., Biff Champion, etc.? This is probably the same troll who kicked off the Era of the Troll on Brownstoner by badmouthing PLG. My suggestion: ignore it and it will crawl back under its rock.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 4:43 PM

4:43 = the master baiter.

Posted by: Biff Champion at May 21, 2008 4:47 PM

Biff and Montrose Morris...I apologize that this "sh1t for brains" keeps harping on the fact that he believes we are one in the same posters. I don't know anything about PLG but its apparently where you're from so why don't you just go back there and think of something at least humorous to add to this thread. I suspect you date a troll and that's why you use that name so much!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 4:47 PM

Biff...4:43 thinks he's intelligent using "it" as subject or direct object or indirect object of a verb or object of a preposition. Its fun to read the incohenrence that's spewed from some of these people!!! Bat, actually quite sad.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 4:52 PM

Nice post there M.M....errr, Biff....no, I mean Dave.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 4:57 PM

You have a sad bat, Dave. That's so sad.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 4:58 PM

"Its fun to read the incohenrence that's spewed from some of these people!!!"

Yes, it's terrible when posters are incohenrent.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 5:00 PM

I guess you've all gravitated to correcting spelling errors now since there's nothing else you can come up with...

sad but true.

incoherent!!! corrections made. My sincerest apologies.

Time for me to go for a drink...this thread is done.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 21, 2008 5:04 PM

Lol. Maybe you'd better remove your foot from your mouth before you try to drink anything. What an asswipe.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 5:07 PM

I looked at this apartment, I'm 5'5" and I smashed my head on the ceiling in the loft. The plank stairs are bouncey, the rails are nowhere near code compliant and the Home Depot kitchen is weirdly large for such a tiny apartment. The rest of the Co-Op smells and looks like a really poorly run retirement home. The street is beautiful and it common spaces have so much potential. A greasonable value at $500,000 just plain silly at $625,000.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 9:48 PM

The Kitchen is done in marble - Emeradoro Dark to be exact there's too much of it and the tiles are too small. The kitchen used to be open to the living room, but the renovation closed it in - a wrong headed move. Also the washer/dryer cabinet is done very poorly, very DIY.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 9:57 PM

I think I know why this person is moving out so quickly. It's a very charming apartment/building that draws the gullible type to overpay. However after the honeymoon period's over, one soon realizes that the space is too small, the ceiling height on the loft area (bedroom? ha!) is a joke, and the building was converted on the cheap. The worst of all is the fact that the windows are facing the side wall of adjacent building, like 4 feet away! No view, no air, just plain horrible.

Posted by: guest at May 21, 2008 10:49 PM

I live in Cobble Hill and living in the building is worth every penny. I have been trying to get into that building for a while now. Thanks for posting article.

Posted by: guest at May 22, 2008 9:18 AM

Closet space?

Posted by: guest at June 25, 2008 12:01 PM

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