Open House Picks
Park Slope
97 Park Place
Slope Heights
Sunday 1-3
$2,350,000
GMAP P*Shark
Prospect Park South
1423 Albemarle Road
Brooklyn Properties
Sunday 12-2
$1,650,000
GMAP P*Shark
Prospect Lefferts Gardens
201 Midwood Street
Corcoran
Saturday 1-3
$995,000
GMAP P*Shark
Kensington
11 Kermit Place
Douglas Elliman
Sunday 12-1:30
$699,000
GMAP P*Shark
27 Comments
By guest on April 18, 2008 1:24 PM
By guest on April 18, 2008 1:25 PM
The Prospect Park South house has no link to the the listing...
By brownstoner on April 18, 2008 1:27 PM
The address and link should be fixed now
By guest on April 18, 2008 1:39 PM
Re: the Park Sloep House ... Slope Heights Realty?!
How do these lame-ass local brokers get these listings? And NO ... I'm not a broker. Bad pics, no floorplan, etc.
Dude, you're selling your house for $2 million!! You can afford the A Team.
By guest on April 18, 2008 1:42 PM
Finally a crop of Open House Picks with some decent prices. Hail the market correctino!
By Nokilissa on April 18, 2008 1:56 PM
Can someone please explain to me how a 2+ million dollar home goes up on the New York Times real estate section with pictures of it's insides that are comically messy/dirty?
The bathroom shot was the most unbelievable. The home owner or photographer couldn't have at the very list picked up the crumpled up, presumably dirty clothes and wet towels slung over the sides of the bath and shelves and tossed them into the hall for a moment?
Pet peeve. Pet peeve.
By z on April 18, 2008 1:59 PM
what do you expect from a broker whose only condo listing on the website is from january 2007?
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:01 PM
ah ha ha ha, I'm loving the market correctino. Can we have that as a permanent feature? "This Week's Correctino"?
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:01 PM
The Kermit Place house is nice. And that's not only because you would get to live on Kermit Place.
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:07 PM
What "market correction?" The Lefferts Manor house is asking 150K more than one of those houses (unrenovated) has ever sold for (ever!). There's even an identical one for sale now at 850K. I eagerly await the correction!
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:17 PM
I love the market correction shit. Prices are still increasing on single family homes in Brooklyn in the first quarter of 2008, per the news this week. As are co-ops. Only condos saw a decline.
We'll let you know when brownstones in the Slope sell for 250K again so you and 4 friends can go in and SNATCH ONE UP!
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:25 PM
I've seen the Park Slope house, the pictures (albeit horrible) are flattering compared to what its like in person... needs a lot of work. it was on the market about a month ago at $2.5 million and then the listing disappeared about a week later. Now, it's back at $2.35 million.
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:35 PM
Yet another $2.25+ million Park Slope house that needs $500,000+ to get into good condition ... SWEET!
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:39 PM
yep, for over $2 million it would be nice if the staircase wasn't pulling away from the wall..
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:42 PM
Please get a new server!
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:51 PM
I actually went to see the house on Albemarle yesterday. I don't have any experience with renovations but let me tell you this house is in scary-bad shape - from the outside it looks like it has been abandoned and from the inside it looks like squatters live there. They've done some work but almost none of it is finished and some of it is very arbitrary. For example, they put in a new tile floor in the little solarium off the dining room. Why in god's name would you waste your money on that when the front steps are literally crumbling? And the kitchen consists of a floor, that's it, no cabinets, no appliances, just wires and a floor. The broker, who could not have been any nicer, was told by the owner that to finish the house will cost about $100K. That doesn't even count the exterior.
That said, for the right person with a certain strength of will this house could be magnificent - it's got all its original fireplaces and wood paneling and it's enormous and romantic. Funny thing is, right afterwards I went to see a fully renovated house around the corner with a totally gorgeous cook's kitchen etc... but I can't get this Albemarle house out of my head. I'm even taking my husband back to see it.
By guest on April 18, 2008 2:52 PM
Flintstoner:
First congrats on the Flea. Its really fun.
Secondly, fire your IT guy. Your server is still messed up.
Lastly, the Prop Shark listing to the Kermit Place house goes to the PPS house. I'm curious what the FAR is with the Kermit Place house? And if there is added FAR, how difficult it would be to build up, instead of back.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
By guest on April 18, 2008 3:03 PM
If you want to see a Park Slope house for under 2 mill, check out NYTimes FSBO listings! They do exist...there's a cute move-in one on 12th St. having an OH on Sunday.
By brownstoner on April 18, 2008 3:07 PM
2:52, the server is still being configured so we haven't switched over yet....fixed the pshark link. As it turns out, there's another 4,500 square feet of buildable on this!
By guest on April 18, 2008 3:28 PM
Commenting traffic looks to have dwindled to 20% of what it was 3 months ago.
By guest on April 18, 2008 4:08 PM
can someone please explain to me what FAR is, and how it is calculated, and what the value it is (or will be) to a person's home/property?
thanks much!
By johnife on April 18, 2008 4:34 PM
FAR (an acronym for Floor Area Ratio) is one of the tools used by city planners to effect regulation the density of buildings. A particular zoning district may have an allowable FAR of, say, 2.5. That means that if you have a plot size of 20' x 100' (i.e. 2,000 SF) you would be allowed to build a building of 5,000 SF on it (2,000 SF x 2.5). Some portions of a building actually due not count toward this ratio; for instance, areas entirely below grade and mechanical areas on any floor. Thus, on that 20' x 100' site you could build a building of 6,500 plus cellar, if 500 SF of the above-grade space was devoted to a mechanical room. If you already have a 3,500 SF house on the hypothetical lot, you would be allowed to add 1,500 SF to it.
Of course, there are many other constraints (and loopholes, actually) on how much you can build: Height restrictions, lot coverage and rear yard depth limits, commercial overlays, quality housing incentives, etc. etc., so you can't work out how much you are allowed to build solely based on the allowable FAR.
The difference between allowable FAR and built FAR is known as "air rights" when it becomes a marketable commodity. A developer who has assembled a development site may ask owners of contiguous properties (and even "contiguous" has some flexibility) if they want to sell their air rights to him so that he can build additional SF on his building. Of course the sellers will then give up their right to expand their own homes.
The going rate for air rights is anything between $80 and a little under $200/SF (or was pre-credit crunch when buying a vacant site was a bit over $200 per buildablesquare foot).
By guest on April 18, 2008 8:23 PM
If the Albemarle rd house has no kitchen, house will not be appraised as habitable and therefore you CANNOT get a mortgage. You have to get a construction/rehab loan which are almost nonexistent right now. If you can find one, the rate will be horrible. Bid low and only if you have seriously perfect credit and are willing to deal with the whole thing falling apart.
By guest on April 18, 2008 10:45 PM
The Albemarle Road house, I have not been inside but have driven by it many times and the exterior needs a complete over haul and that alone would cost you a min of $150K. I am sure this house is great and has the potential to be an amazing home.
But from the looks of the exterior and 2:51 posting, I would be more scared of the unknow! What you do not see cost more money then what you do see. Once you start a renovation on a grand home like this, you can't stop and if you are going to do it you need to do it right. $$$$
Now if I am correct the other listing 2:51 saw was 169 Stratford. I saw this house when it was for sale maybe 2 years ago. Seems they spent a whole a lot of money on a kitchen that they are not going to get there money back on, come on a built in coffee, espresso maker. What do one of those things cost???
By Brenda from Flatbush on April 19, 2008 8:45 AM
We bought a house 2 blocks from the one on Albemarle in MUCH worse shape, no working kitchen either, and infinitely worse location and almost no detail, and we got a mortgage.
Oh, wait, that was 21 years ago, and the mortgage was for $120,000.
Anyway, if they were asking what we paid for ours (I'm not telling, but we put 20% down), I'd take this baby on in a heartbeat! Basically, when I see a turret...I lose all reason!
By guest on April 19, 2008 2:53 PM
Brenda, you're killing me w/ those numbers, but back then the only bank I could go to was shaped like a pig, so I guess it doesn't matter.
By guest on April 21, 2008 3:59 PM
8:23,
That is simply not true. You can get a mortgage on a house without a kitchen without getting a construction loan. Of course as with all mortgages these days, you must be credit and income worthy and the house must appraise. This house does however have a kitchen but it doesn't have appliances.
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I really like the Park Slope house.
Not a bad price, either.