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April 8, 2008

DOB Puts Partial SWO on Whole Foods Site

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Right now the Whole Foods site in Gowanus seems to be damned if it don't. In addition to needing a full new building permit from the DOB, the DEC still has to approve the grocer's plans to build on a wetlands. Even though construction can't actually begin on the store, in mid-March the DOB put a stop work order on the property that's only been partially lifted for contractors to make the site safe by erecting a better fence. The DOB entry on the stop work order says that "hazardous conditions were observed during inspection" and that there was a "failure to safeguard public & property" because the construction fence was down. (The fence's failings have been well-documented by us and Gowanus Lounge.) The ceremonial groundbreaking for the store happened in '06, and plenty of people are wondering whether it's ever actually going to be a reality. With that in mind, it's poll time:




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Wont EVER happen - said this 3 years ago too

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 12:04 PM

Want a cookie?
How hard is it to be cynical and cry about it on a forum?
Hint: Teenagers do it all the time.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 12:25 PM

Holy veggies, for all the money they've spent on this so far, and all the money they could have been making over the last 3 years if they just built the damn thing somewhere else in Brooklyn, it would have been so much more worth it to not so desperately chase this Gowanus site. Give it up and have enough balls to venture into another part of Brooklyn. People DO eat organic in other places than Park Slope. Everybody will take cars to get to this place just like they do to the Fairway anyway. Build it somewhere else. Jeez. I so do not feel badly for corporate fools making bad decisions even when it's a company I'm otherwise a fan of.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 12:50 PM

12:50, you are spot on. They need to give up on this place and move on. The people in that neighborhood don't want it and it's a shitty site (quite literally) to begin with. Put it in downtown Brooklyn at either the City Point building (same people who built the TWC so there's a prior business relationship), or the new Avalon Fort Greene (again, prior relationship per Avalon Christie on Bowery) and people will be doing back flips!!

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 1:14 PM

I think the bottom 3 floors of the HOD on Atlantic would do -just fine-.

You heard it here first!

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 1:41 PM

why would they give up they paid for the spot, Do you think they will throw there money away? I think that is nonsense

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 2:27 PM

2:27

The money they paid for it is -chump change- for WF. Are you aware how much capital they have?

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 2:36 PM

It's called re-selling the land, 2:27 and they could have sold to someone whose business would not require such strict regulations regarding the landfill and toxins. I.e. not a grocery.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 2:55 PM

2:36

So what if they have a lot of capital. They did not become succesful by throwing away millions of dollars every time they meet an obstacle.

Not to mention what location will they move? Will this supposed site will not cause the same issues or even worse new and more expensive issues.

You make it sound like these things are done overnight for pennies.

There are reasons they are Whole Foods and you are not.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 4:05 PM

4:05

"They did not become succesful by throwing away millions of dollars every time they meet an obstacle."

No but as they became successful they learned to pocked 100s of millions of dollars for developing future sites. Again, what they paid for this site is -chump change- for them. They are a 3.7 BILLION dollar organization.

"There are reasons they are Whole Foods and you are not."

Uh....they are a corporation and I'm not?

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 4:39 PM

"There are reasons they are Whole Foods and you are not."

Totally retarded and irrelevant response.

As for the marvelous judgement of the CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey, think again. That idiot got in huge trouble for posing as someone else on the internet praising his company and bashing competitors. It was a terrible embarrassment for the company.

Sorry, but I actually do have better business judgement than that, 4:05. I just exercise it in another industry than organic groceries, yes it's true.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 6:19 PM

I love Whole Foods, but there is no way I will shop at this location unless I feel really darn sure that they did a thorough cleanup of the site.

Posted by: guest at April 8, 2008 8:58 PM

"As for the marvelous judgement of the CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey, think again. That idiot got in huge trouble for posing as someone else on the internet praising his company and bashing competitors. It was a terrible embarrassment for the company."

Totally retarded and irrelevant response.
Yes because posing in the internet is the same thing as making million dollar decisions about real estate. And you make it sound like decisions are done in the CEO vacuum.

The ironic part is your bashing the CEO and WF anonymously.

"Uh....they are a corporation and I'm not?"

No you follow real estate in a blog site. They make millions.

"They are a 3.7 BILLION dollar organization"

Great you can Google and read numbers. I'm sure you have cost analysis of your idea? Including relevant information including zoning laws, taxes, market study, community support, etc, etc?

Bottom line is, you are making grand recommendation with no proof whatsoever yours is a better idea or even feasible.

I can do that too... watch...

"They should just lower the price of the congestion plan. And it will get through"

There you like that. I pulled one out my butt.

Posted by: guest at April 9, 2008 10:27 AM

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