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April 11, 2008
Development Watch: 200 Livingston Facade Almost Done

The headline and photo say it all: Mario Procida's 250-unit project at 200 Livingston Street is almost all glassed in. Anyone know when sales (or will it be rentals?) begin?
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I am just curious to know if people will be willing to pay top dollars for that stretch of Livingston in the current market. I find this block to be horrible.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 12:46 PM
Run of the mill yesman architects, I guess.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 12:47 PM
livingston is one of the nicer streets in downtown brooklyn, underrated imo. quiet, still lively, lot of potential.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 1:03 PM
Another gray building.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 1:08 PM
will I see a Procida banner soon on this blog? smart move, Mr B.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 1:18 PM
I live on State and there is a marked difference between State and Livingston. But I'd buy there if they had a three bedroom at the right price; which I'm pretty sure they won't.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 1:25 PM
I just wonder where these people will buy a gallon of milk and a dozen eggs. It will be easy to get all the "bling" you want and it's only a few blocks from IHOP and Dallas BBQ. Unless they mean to attract tenants who never cook, it's going to be a long walk for groceries or a constant string of FreshDirect trucks.
Still, I'm happy to see residents moving back to downtown Brooklyn. The area has amazing upside potential.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 1:40 PM
I think the location is fine. The stretch of Livingston (and Schermerhorn) where the building sits is by no means nice, but as others have noted, it's getting better and has plenty of upside potential.
Nearby developments (110 Livingston, 14 Townhouses, Boulevard East) are only a couple of blocks away yet have sold extremely well, so I don't think the location is a real handicap.
Besides, while the immediate block is so-so, there are plenty of "pros" to the location: it's 4 blocks to Brooklyn Heights, 3 blocks to Court St, 3 blocks to Atlantic Ave, a couple of blocks from Smith, all the subway lines within a 5 block radius, etc.
Shopping, dining, nightlife, and other services are abundant--if not right at your doorstep, then at least within a few blocks.
Also, while the poster at 1:40 has a legitimate concern, buying basic groceries shouldn't present too much of a hassle. The nearest grocery store is a bit of a trek (the closest one I can think of is the Key Food on Atlantic and Clinton which is 7 long blocks away), there is talk of a grocer coming to State Renaissance Court, the new apartment complex that's about a block away from 200 Livingston.
Not to mention the Trader Joe's, which will only be 6 blocks away!
I hope this building does well--we need more people in Downtown Brooklyn.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 4:30 PM
one word -- fresh direct.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 5:50 PM
Everything is good and nice, but can anyone explain me one SINGLE thing - why so f-g UGLY?????
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 6:09 PM
Are the above touting posts broker posts? That block is desolate until it becomes gross. More Fulton Mall than State Street. I suppose there is some "upside potential," but who knows when that will be realized?
The building looks better in person than in that photo, but it's still pretty blah.
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 6:22 PM
Does anyone know the price?
Posted by: guest at April 11, 2008 6:31 PM
let me see - this stretch is right in the heart of a head to toe redevelpment of much of the immediate area, and a short walk to bk heights, ft greene, boerum hill, cobble hill, carroll gardens and dumbo, and multiple train lines that are minutes to manhattan. also a short walk to the bk bridge park project. the value of this location is painfully obvious.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at April 11, 2008 9:31 PM
Really, it looks worse in person. This is a gray box that fades from site and memory as quickly as possible. Architecture should be inspirational, not deathly dull. I hope that it is boycotted by the buyers.
Posted by: LM at April 12, 2008 12:11 PM
All new buildings suck. Landmark everything. I love vacant lots. Anyone who likes new buildings must be a broker. Buck Fush. Free Mumia.
Posted by: guest at April 12, 2008 2:20 PM

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