Court OKs Housing at Brooklyn Bridge Park

Okay, let's get on with it now!

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 9:54 AM

10% of the park includes the water Btw the piers and some water extending into the harbor. Of the land portion of the park, condos will finally end up with almost 30% of the park.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 10:16 AM

This is a great project...and I am glad that there has been pressure to complete a thorough review and appropriate due diligence. Glad that it is finally underway..will be great for Brooklyn

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 10:21 AM

the park has been "finally underway" for about fifteen years. the loons in the "defense" group have not helped speed it up but the PA and the ESDC do not need any help to draw things out and make any progress seem elusive.
They are also terrible stewards. The area surrounding the Empire Stores is a disgrace. filthy, muddy, graffiti-tagged. A little slice of appalachia.
How can anyone have any confidence in these hacks running these organizations? There is never enough money. just like the MTA. Even if they took every last dollar of personal property in the state they would still not have enough money.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 10:34 AM

what a terrible excuse for opposing a project. the sierra club has lost all credibility.

how about fighting an actual violation of the public trust doctrine? http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/31/12/31_12_judges_fighting_for_free.html

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 10:47 AM

#2 - that is a misleading argument. When people calculate the square footage of Central Park, they don't subtract the area of the reservoir or the lake just because they are water, do they? Same think with the lake in Prospect park. Water is an integral part of many parks in the City and is counted in their area calculations all the time, as they should be. This is even more true with this park since the "water areas" will not only be for gazing upon but also for water-dependant activities. There will be a marina. There will be a beach area, and there will be a "safe water" area that will be wave-attenuated and closed off that will be designed for kayakers to access the water. Those are all significant components of the park, so their square footage should be counted in the area calculation of the park.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 10:57 AM

#2 -- i heard that the land the condos are on is not now park, and never will be. how is that using park land for condos? i'm confused.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 12:07 PM

I am so bored of the alleged brooklyn bridge park. Lets all stop talking about it until its almost finished. OK?

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 3:35 PM

nothing there is "now park". but you can pull up BBPC and see the map and where the new condos will be.

also. the marina is no longer part of any plans

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 3:52 PM

3:52 - Who says the marina is not part of the plans now? That's totally untrue. What is true is that the park is currently having some issues with DEC about it's permits - as are many other waterfront City parks (including Hudson river park. THe outcome of these issues is still up in the air, and I guess you could say that they COULD result in the elimination of many of the in-water usese in the park (including the marina). But there has NEVER been an announcement that officially dropped the marina. Please don't make stuff up. It doesn't help anyone.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 4:07 PM

Some people just prefer to have trash, crack houses, wasteland, and all sort of crap in their neighborhoods, if the alternative is to have (1) projects with which they are not 100% in agreement, or (2) residential developments for "rich" people. The reality is (1) sometimes any project is better than no project at all and (2) New York is expensive - no one buying an $800K condo is really rich.

I think there must be rules, and discussion is healthy, but some people are just too hard to please.

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 5:17 PM

it will be 50% luxury condos

Posted by: guest at April 28, 2008 5:34 PM

Folks, this isn't a "park" it is Brooklyn Bridge PARK CITY. It was supposed to be an honest to goodness PARK. THe judges call it a
"project" which is true - not a park. The Defense Fund is at least trying to get a park, not a condo complex. AND the community's plan for the park had enough revenue from PARK FRIENDLY restaurants, parking, recreation, an events venue, etc. to SUPPORT THE PARK> But all recreation is now gone, and in its place CONDO FRIENDLY sidewalks and something called a perched wetlands...what a total waste!

Posted by: guest at April 29, 2008 11:56 AM

Folks, this is why you shouldn't believe everything (or anything) you read on a blog. 11:56 on 4/29 is full of it. "All recreation is now gone." What fantasy world are you living in? I am neither a supporter or opponent of the park conservancy, but all it takes is a 5-second vist to:
http://www.brooklynbridgepark.org/
to see the various recreation activities that are planned. Sure, it's a problem if they pull a bait & switch and condos appear without any park activities, BUT THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT IS HAPPENING. If that's the presumption of the so-called "park defenders" then we really need to question what their real agenda is - sure doesn't sound to me like a constructive effort to get a park built. Rather, sounds like some sort of axe to grind against the developers.

Posted by: guest at April 30, 2008 1:21 PM

There was a true park plan, that did take 20 years to create and had sufficient dollars to support it. It all happened in 2001 and it was the plan that all communities supported, including the Sierra Club. Now only one group supports this condo park - the Heights Association and their surrogate, the Conservancy. The only thing Stanton and Koval are preserving are their jobs, a with privatizing the park and throwing up towers at the entrances to block people from coming in. I applaud the brave efforts of the surrounding communities and the Park Defense Fund, and the local papers andthe NY Times, Daily News and Post for seeing the sham this is for the rest of Brooklyn.
Tidal pools and perched wetlands are not active recreation. There is no pool, no year round recreation, and no ice rink yet this is the most expensive park on earth. Bravo to those who would call it what it is - a waste, a terrible thing for public parks.

Posted by: guest at May 3, 2008 6:12 AM