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March 10, 2008

Last Week's Biggest Sales

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We'd be surprised if the Slope manse on Montgomery doesn't end up being one of the top-5 sales in the neighborhood this year. How 'bout that markup on the Carroll Gardens house?
1. PARK SLOPE $3,300,000
52 Montgomery Place GMAP (left)
5,238-square-foot nine-bedroom first hit the market last April (HOTD, listed at $3,675,000); price subsequently chopped to $3,300,000, and there she went. Deed recorded 3/4.

2. PARK SLOPE $2,195,000
40 St. Marks Avenue GMAP (right)
The sellers here hit the sweet spot, asking-wise. The brownstone between 5th and 6th aves. was purchased by them for $900,000 in 2003. Deed recorded 3/5.

3. MANHATTAN BEACH $1,850,000
282 Beaumont Street GMAP
2,896-sf, 2-family house built circa 1925. Listing MIA. Deed recorded 3/5.

4. PARK SLOPE $1,752,000
393 5th Street GMAP
Another one between 5th and 6th aves, this time in Center Slope. Was it listed? 3,012-sf 3-fam house. Deed recorded 3/4.

5. CARROLL GARDENS $1,670,000
29 2nd Street GMAP
Interesting: This one appears to have gone for a pretty penny over ask. StreetEasy shows the 3-fam townhouse listed in October for $1.5 mil. Deed recorded 3/3.




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Good for them, what a profit - what clown sold it for $900k

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 11:42 AM

yeah really...900K for the St. Marks house in 2003?

that sure was a steal.

i think the 1.7 park slope sale might even be looked at as a steal in 5 years.

so glad montgomery house found a home.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 11:46 AM

PSlope = on fire.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:03 PM

I saw a lovely Queen Anne style brownstone on St. Johns place between 7th and 6 ave back in 2002 that was 1.2 million. Ever since then I have been in love with that type of brownstone. I could not afford one in PS but I did find the same house in Stuyvesant Heights last year for 700K.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:09 PM

as fringe areas become scarier for people (not literally scary, but in terms of desire to invest), the prime areas continue to flourish.

or did you think that every single area was going to tank because of the credit crisis?

if you did, that was pretty ignorant because there are still tons of people with money in new york city.

in my house search, i am seeing heavy interest in park slope still.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:13 PM

Regarding the Carroll Gardens sale, It's amazing the banks still are giving large home equity lines for these purchases.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:14 PM

Why? The place went $200,000 over ask. Apparently demand is still strong and Carroll Gardens is a pretty safe bet, as far as safe bets go in this market. Plus the purchaser invested over $300,000 of his own money.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:26 PM

Where is that idiot the tWhat? He never posts when the FACTS don't fit is stupid ideas of the Brownstone Brooklyn market.

Welcome to the neighborhood, 12:09. We are glad you joined us in the (one and only) Heights.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:31 PM

Actually the open houses are full in the "fringe" areas, 12:13 and the houses are selling. Of course when the market gets nervous people are more nervous buying places in the more recently gentrifying neighborhoods. That's utterly expected. Not everyone has $3 million to spend on a house. There are plenty people with a lot of money in NYC, but plenty people with plenty money who still can't afford $3 million. By the way, it IS possible to love your neighborhood of Park Slope without being so mean and insulting all the other neighborhoods. Or at least people in other neighborhoods outside of Park Slope are capable of that.

As for the house that sold for $900K in 2003 and sold for more than twice that this year, remember 5th Ave used to be called "fringe" and "dangerous" even as recently as 2003. It was all about 7th Ave back then. But somebody took a chance investing in that house, like my husband did too back in 1997 when he bought a coop near 5th Ave. He made a lot of money selling it years later as well. To those who take the risk go the reward.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:32 PM

5th avenue and st. marks was not fringe in 2003.

not unless you are a total p*ssy.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:35 PM

Well it sure as heck wasn't what it is now if a house could sell for $900,000 at 5th Ave and St. Marks in 2003.

As for p*ssy's, those are the ones who are afraid to do any kind of risky investments. Those are the people who passed up buying a large brownstone in prime Park Slope for $200,000 back in the 80's.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:45 PM

"or did you think that every single area was going to tank because of the credit crisis?"

Is the credit crisis over? A March 08 snap shot is the worst of it? We don't need to keep the cameras rolling?

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:49 PM

Wow, Park Slope is really shrugging off this housing slump. I guess it really may be one of the top 10 nabes in the US. The Mont. mansion probably needs 2ml of work!!!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:50 PM

7th avenue is making a comeback.

With the new Yogo Monster leading the way.

Open till 11pm people!!!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:51 PM

7th ave. was never gone dude. Just needs fewer brokers and Chinese noodle joints.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:53 PM

Proof that 12:13 has no background in business or real estate:
If all of Brooklyn does well, Park Slope does even better. If parts of Brooklyn that were undergoing improvements and increased values suddenly plummeted it would not bode well for the entire market in NYC. The trend to improve Brooklyn including fringe areas did not start 3 years ago. It started well over a decade ago as a noted migration from the suburbs for young professional families.

So why on earth wish for other neighborhoods to go into some kind of economic ruin?

There being no economic reason for it, the sole reason is to feel superior. Addressing why that need is there, the need to feel good that's fulfilled by the more important things in life like spouse or family or career, that's up to you.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:53 PM

Weel, if the fringe areas get worse, the trendy restauarants might come back to 7th avenue.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:56 PM

Left out a word at 12:53: it should be "that's NOT fulfilled by the more important things in life".

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 12:59 PM

"The trend to improve Brooklyn including fringe areas did not start 3 years ago. It started well over a decade ago"


I'M the ignorant one???? You might want to talk to someone in Crown Heights, Bed Stuy, Prospect Heights or Clinton Hill, dude.

These areas were discovered long before a decade ago.

Try 20 years at least.

Just because YOU discovered it 10 years ago does not make it fact.



Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:00 PM

"the trendy restauarants might come back to 7th avenue."


Already happening....

1.Moim that Korean place is amazing.
2.Chiles and Chocolate is above par.
3.Scalino is delicious.
4.Oshima just finished a super classy renovation.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:04 PM

I don't care if all of Wall Street implodes - Prices in Park Slope will NEVER go down. Didn't you hear? It was named one of the top 10 most livable neighborhoods - AND has the largest collection of intact 19th century architecture in the COUNTRY!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:12 PM

huh. would manhattan beach qualify as a 'fringe neighborhood'?

Posted by: Jimmy Legs at March 10, 2008 1:19 PM

Actually, 1:12 it was determined on Friday that it is not the largest collection of brownstones, just the most intact.

Bed Stuy apparently has more brownstones, but the neighborhood isn't as intact with many homes that were bruned, gutted, abandoned, etc.

There are brownstones in Bed Stuy side by side with ugly Fedders monstrosities.

Not the case in the historic district of Park Slope.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:19 PM

Um, I was actually trying to defend those areas, 1pm. Please read my post more carefully. No wonder people get annoyed with the boosters of fringe areas.

It was about 10 years ago that the business news started actively noting and reporting on the migration from suburbs back into cities here and all over the country in large cities. THAT's what I was talking about.

As for interest in Park Slope never dropping, if all of Brooklyn started a general decline the very wealthy who are moving from Manhattan to Park Slope would start choosing Connecticut once more like they did before. Seeing improvements in all of Brooklyn is VERY much in the interest of Park Slope. After all, the people buying in Park Slope will want to hang out in the park. The park borders Prospect Heights, Crown Heights and PLG. People in Park Slope have to walk through Fort Greene to attend BAM. They go to the Atlantic Center to shop. Improvements in the areas all around Park Slope has contributed a huge amount towards Park Slope's rising popularity.

Try telling a wealthy person coming from Manhattan who can buy wherever they want, inside or outside NYC, how great it is to live near Prospect Park if the park was totally shady and dangerous like it used to be.

Let's have a little logic around here.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:26 PM

hahaha these people are idiots. Crime is skyrocketing in Brooklyn and the country is going to absolute hell economically.

20% price drop in 2 years? Talk about a sour investment.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:34 PM

"Improvements in the areas all around Park Slope has contributed a huge amount towards Park Slope's rising popularity."

Actually...Park Slope was a fantastic neighhorhood long before any of the gentirfiers moved into the fringe areas surrounding it. Park Slope pretty much started the gentrification of Brooklyn.

I think Park Slope contributed more to the sucess of Ft. Greene, Prospect Heights and Crown Heights than the other way around.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:36 PM

largest 19th century architecture in the country bit is not true at all... Not even the largest 19th century architecture in Brooklyn...

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:37 PM

Not largest, 1:37, but best.

Stop thinking like an overweight, fast food eating American for a second.

Bigger is NOT always better.

Some of us prefer quality of quantity.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:42 PM

New Jersey has more 19th century architecture than Brooklyn. Go back to Iowa.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:42 PM

"No neighborhood in America has a finer and more intact collection of late 19th-century row houses than Park Slope," notes architectural historian and Columbia University professor Andrew Dolkart. "Block after block is virtually unaltered, with houses ranging from grand townhouses designed by Brooklyn's leading architects, to long rows of vernacular speculator-built housing designed by the obscure architects who provided character to so many urban neighborhoods."

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:44 PM

The Park Slope neighborhood of today retains much of the architecture that defined it 100 years ago. The neighborhood is roughly bounded on the east by Frederick Law Olmsted and Calvert Vaux's Prospect Park, on the north by Flatbush Avenue, on the west by Fifth Avenue, and on the south by 15th Street. At the northeast corner is Grand Army Plaza, another Olmsted and Vaux design. Dramatically sited at the confluence of Flatbush Avenue and Eastern Parkway is the main branch of the Brooklyn Public Library, while around the corner is the Brooklyn Museum, adjacent to the 52-acre Brooklyn Botanic Garden.
The American Planning Association has selected Park Slope as one of 10 Great Neighborhoods in America for its architectural and historical features and its diverse mix of residents and businesses, all of which are supported and preserved by its active and involved citizenry.
"No neighborhood in America has a finer and more intact collection of late 19th-century row houses than Park Slope," notes architectural historian and Columbia University professor Andrew Dolkart. "Block after block is virtually unaltered, with houses ranging from grand townhouses designed by Brooklyn's leading architects, to long rows of vernacular speculator-built housing designed by the obscure architects who provided character to so many urban neighborhoods."
Park Slope has a little bit of everything: stately brownstones, attractive apartment buildings, a farmer's market, independently owned businesses, transit, an adjoining park, and active residents, some of whom moved to the area as urban homesteaders when it was being abandoned in the 1960s. The efforts of the local Fifth Avenue Committee have helped maintain affordable housing for long-time residents and preserve the neighborhood's economic and social diversity.
Despite the neighborhood's outstanding amenities and singular quality of architecture, Park Slope suffered along with many urban neighborhoods from disinvestment and decline during the decades following World War II. Many grand four- and five-story single-family homes of the Victorian era fell into disrepair or were chopped into rooming houses and small apartments.
The start of a several-decades-long turnaround began in the 1960s when visionary residents, among them Evelyn and Everett Ortner, moved into the neighborhood. The Ortners, who purchased an 1886 brownstone on Berkeley Place in 1963, became famous as two of the neighborhood's strongest advocates, encouraging friends to move there and campaigning against the kind of mortgage redlining they had experienced when moving into a "declining" area.
More recently, the department of city planning rezoned Park Slope in 2003 to cap building heights on the brownstone side streets while accommodating taller apartment houses in the Fourth Avenue transit corridor.
Historic in design and modern in amenity, the livability of Brooklyn's Park Slope is no hyperbole. Its architectural, recreational, transportation, and community assets all combine to make it a great community of lasting value.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:45 PM

I would think that Southern end of Bedford Stuyvesant would have more intact architecture than Park Slope. Many of the people in that area did not have the money to change anything but the front doors. People in Park Slope stole all the doors from these houses in the 1980s. The houses in both areas are designed
by the same architects during the 1870-1900. Park Slope has more tress which makes a big difference in my book and it makes the area look nicer. Architecturally it is all the same...

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:58 PM

I have been to 75% of the houses on my block in Stuyvesant Heights and all of them are intact. I even have a few horse tie up post on the block from the 1880s.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 1:59 PM

Look, we're really not seeing the downturn yet in these sale prices because anything that is reporting as sold on today's brownstoner actually went to contract about 3 months ago. Before things got scary. And they ARE getting scarier every day.

The St Marks Ave house was a complete WRECK in 2003, hence the "bargain" purchase price. I love the reno the previous owners did but am actually suprised they hit their asking price. It's a small house (16' x 34', with an English basement, ie. no rental). The layout is terrific and the reno looks high quality. But still not a huge amount of space for a family. But I guess it made at least one buyer fall in love.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 2:01 PM

10% price chop = on fire!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 2:03 PM

"I think Park Slope contributed more to the sucess of Ft. Greene, Prospect Heights and Crown Heights than the other way around."

Ugh, why so dense? It's not about fighting over what came first. Are you THAT competitive? Well yeah, you are.

Park Slope had appeal to solidly middle class whites who worked in academia and the arts for a long time now. Yes. Yes that is true. I never said it wasn't.

Only recently did it start attracting multi-millionaires from Manhattan. Those people used to move to CT and LI when it came time to get a house. They are okay with Park Slope now because ALL of Brooklyn is moving up in the world. If it wasn't true about all of Brooklyn, and if Prospect Park was still a drug-den, they would NOT be moving to Park Slope no matter how many pretty houses they could find there.

Improvements on 4th Ave and Gowanus is another huge contribution towards Park Slope overall being more desirable. Park Slope is not an island. It does not rise or fall entirely on its own.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 2:28 PM

Losers! All of you!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:10 PM

Yeah, everybody here but 3:10 is a loser! And I include myself!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:14 PM

I heard Eliot Spitzer hangs out on 7th Ave.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:44 PM

I saw Eliot Spitzer going into the Hotel Le Bleu with a high-class prosti.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:46 PM

you can fit 3 historical PS in one Bed Stuy. Dolkart was on mission when he wrote that piece.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:47 PM

Dude I an not wait to see what the Post comes up with for a headline:

Spitzer
Quits Her?

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:54 PM

you are so right 3:47 Dolkart has never been east of Flatbush

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:56 PM

3:47: Can you not read??

It doesn't say PS is the largest...it says FINER AND MOST INTACT!

FUNCTIONAL READING!

You'd have to be literally blind to not think PS is a finer and more intact neighborhood than Bed Stuy. If it weren't, they wouldn't be trying to give away houses in the Stuy right now. They certainly aren't selling for 3 million bucks anytime soon.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 3:58 PM

HA HA this is 1:12 and I was being completely facetious - i.e., making fun of the slopers who every day trot out those two tired bits of PS propoganda. EVERYBODY WAKE UP - prices are going to come down everywhere.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:05 PM

"prices are going to come down everywhere"

They already have. Note the $375,000 haircut on the Montgomery Place house above.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:34 PM

that doesn't mean prices are coming down, 4:34.

what if the asking price was 5 million?

would you have said the same or would you have said the asking price was absurd. there is a difference, you realize.

you need to learn the difference between an asking price and a healthy selling price.

if a house selling in brooklyn for 3.3 million means to you the market is tanking, you need to reassess.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:39 PM

If there is a trend - which there is - of houses going for below ask rather than above ask, then the market is softening.

Prices are coming down. They will come down further.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:53 PM

The areas in Park Slope where there are consistent, uninterrupted blocks of intact brownstones are tiny and few. Also there are houses by more significant architects across the park who did grander houses, like the ones found in Brooklyn Heights. It would be difficult to measure it all up precisely in a comparison, so you could go on and on in this battle without reaching a conclusion there are so many factors to consider. But there's no question Dolkart misstated things and conveniently ignored a lot of Brooklyn and he totally had an agenda. I'd never believe anything I read by that guy again.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:56 PM

Throughout the history of time, houses sold for below ask 99% of the time.

Only from about 2001-2006, did they ever routinely sell for above ask.

If you do not know this, you are ill-informed.

So it would seem we are back to normal.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:56 PM

dolkart's mission was a success!

3:47 "finer" is not a fact and I highly doubt you or dolkart ever took a stroll through all of Bed Stuy to see what's "intact".

I'm a firm beliver in time not a person's essay and, I still say Bed Stuy can shit out not 1 but 3 "finer and intact" park slopes.


For the record PS does deserve the title it's come along way... 25k yesterday now 3 million today.
Give Bed Stuy some time and you're an old foggie looking back at what your wrote in brownstoner you'll think of me.


Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 4:58 PM

Park Slope was never named the most dangerous neighborhood in the United States.

Bed Stuy still has a long way to go to get rid of that PR problem.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:01 PM

I have strolled though every neighborhood in Brooklyn at this point.

Yes, I do find Park Slope the most beautiful. It is an opinion, of course. Not one that everyone shares.

In my opinion though, the grand homes that line the side streets (from lincoln to 3rd) between 7th and 8th and 8th to the Park as the hill ascends towards Prospect Park are unmatched in scale and grandeur in my opinion.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:06 PM

true again 5:01 the person who wrote that is on the same mission as Dolkart.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:06 PM

I think I am going to move BS. For some strange reason I kinda like the feel of the area. I really hope that i can find something in the historic part.. My apt in N. PS really really nice but my rent has gone up way too much.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:11 PM

I don't believe it was a mission, 5:06. Dolkart wrote that statement about Park Slope as it was being honored for a top 10 neighborhood profile. He also seems to have better credentials than most of us here writing when it comes to architecture and history.

As beautiful as Bed Stuy homes may be, it is far from a top 10 neighborhood in the country award.

I think you are reading too much into this guy's comments and pretending like Bed Stuy is eden all at the same time.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:13 PM

Carroll Gardens is really the spot to buy right now. If i had a little cash i would buy In carroll Gardens / cobble hill i see that as your best investment in this market and this is a very stable market.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:16 PM

Nobody is saying Bed Stuy is Eden, they're just saying just because it's not an upscale community doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And yet Dolkart pretended that was the case. His reporting was offensive and should be even to those who live in Park Slope. If they know what it means to recognize all people in the world not just rich people, that is.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:18 PM

5:16....You think the most overpriced area of Brooklyn is the place to buy right now???!!

oookkkkk

they ain't building a new train other than the f to carroll gardens anytime soon. they are closing the main station, however.


Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:19 PM

How did he pretend it wasn't the case. 5:18??

Selecting those top 10 neighborhoods is a subjective process. Every person would have their own idea of what is the best. This American Planning Association designation was but one example.

Him saying it is the finest and most intact is correct for him. An expert, no less. Are you an architectural historian at Columbia?

While the fine part is subjective, the intact part is not.

Bed Stuy has beauties, but they are often sitting next to a fedders building, a building in total disrepair or a burned out building.

That does not qualify it as intact.

I do not see any falsifications in Dolkarts' statements.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:28 PM

I live in PS and I said PS deserves the title. Bed stuy is not an Eden TODAY just like PS was not an Eden in 1974.

I have walked through some blocks in Bed Stuy and some of details that I saw on the fascades of many homes, were things that I've never seen before in PS.

It's just a matter of time.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:33 PM

There are actually lots of houses in CG for close to one million - if you look nearer the gowanus (lovely blocks) or on the other side of the bqe. when you compare those locations to fringe south slope which is where similarly priced houses are in park slope, the houses in cg are a much better deal.

not sure why people pretend that the train service to carroll gardens/cobble hill is so bad - the f train is really fast when you're only four stops fromm manhattan - it's when you take it all the way to park slope that it feels slow.. also the two stops and cross platform transfer to the blue line makes it feel you are serviced by that line as well.

that being said, no neighborhood is immune to this downturn. but houses in good school districts I would say are the safest investment since they'll be easy to rent.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:34 PM

"if you look nearer the gowanus (lovely blocks)"


You mean next to Wyckoff Gardens and Gowanus Houses? Yeah, those are ok houses, but there is also a reason they are a million and not 3. That's also called Boreum Hill. Anyone can tell you that houses in Park Slope are far prettier than CG. Most in CG have had the details ripped off the outside.

And they are closing the F train station at Smith and 9th for at least a year.

Not great news.


Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:42 PM

Let's meet back here in the year 2070 when Bed Stuy wins top 10 hood!

Oh wait...we'll all be dead.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:44 PM

Houses in so-called CG that are near Gowanus are in the flood zone. Houses in the South Slope are near the highest point in Brooklyn. Next hurricane, you'll realize why the South Slope was a better value.

Posted by: denton at March 10, 2008 5:47 PM

There are wonderful blocks in the south slope but there are a lot of horrible blocks that look like williamsburg/queens and feel really desolate. this is where the PS houses are located that are close to a million. If you think those streets are a better location than the lovely blocks between smith and the gowanus (I'm talking about the carroll gardens area, not the streets across from the projects)which are quiet, safe as the suburbs,and filled with pretty brick homes, then you are really drinking the Park Slope kool-aid.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 5:56 PM

At least we aren't drinkin the Goombah-aid in Carroll Gardens, 5:56.


Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 6:01 PM

Ummm ok but all the people that live in Carroll Gardens take the subway that is called "Carroll st" not Smith and 9th that subway is near Lowes and not that far from you guessed it 4th ave and 9th street that is Guess what Park slope. OHHHH. Anyway i would say the "f" train is fine from Carroll Gardens not from Park slope. Also i think Carroll Gardens is prefered by those that would live in a little bit of a more laid back area. Plus i think there is more value in CG. Why does the Park slope people worry so much about other nabes?

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 6:22 PM

House goes for $170k more in Carroll Gardens and nobody says a word. What happened to all the CG bashing?

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 6:47 PM

LOSERS!!!!!

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 6:51 PM

I dont know what the problem is with the Italian people in Carroll Gardens? the one's that are left because most went to Staten island. I think they are much better people than those of you in Park slope that are from Nebraska, yea you guys from North dakota have a lot of class and are real cultural.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:11 PM

The last thing anyone should want is for Bed Stuy to be another Park Slope, which no longer has real Brooklyn character. Ever notice, there are no kids playing outside with neighbors and friends - the brooklyn thing! Many of these park slopers don't even know each other and don't speak to their neighbors - there's no sense of community - it's like rows of beautiful houses living the apartment lifestyle - everyone just goes back inside. Park Slopers are missing the best part of Brooklyn living.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:22 PM

Exactly, 7:22. That is why I love Bed-Stuy. Hopefully, we can keep that atmosphere even as the neighborhood changes.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:33 PM

I think Bed stuy is pretty nice and will only get better with the prices being low.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:41 PM

Most of southern BS homes are NOT sitting next to Fedders buildings I live on MacDonough and all the homes on my block look the same way as when they were built in the 1870s and 1880s and it not only my block. Decatur, Bainbridge, Stuyvesant, Jefferson, Hancock, Macon, Arlington, Vernon some parts of Madison, Putnam still have intact blocks... Some of you people really need to take a walking tour.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:48 PM

That why I brought in BS it really feels like a Brooklyn neighborhood. I like in PS for 7 years and only met a handful a people. In BS I know almost everyone on my block and I have only been there for 3 months. They look out for me tell me if I need to move the car, even pick up my packages and sweep the leaves in front of my house... People pass you and smile or say hello... It has to be the friendliest area in Brooklyn... No one thinks that are better than another even the "rich" new people that move into the area quickly leave the bourgeois attitudes on the Brooklyn Bridge.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 7:59 PM

Why is that one Carroll Gardens booster posting over and over AGAIN and once more trying to hijack a Brownstoner thread? Nobody was talking about Carroll Gardens AT ALL not even one iota. In fact it was a conversation about significant brownstone architecture which as we know does not exist in Carroll Gardens.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 8:29 PM

Speaking of lovely intact PS brownstones, there is this gorgeous building on a prime block:

- http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/only_the_blog_knows_brook/2008/03/something-going.html

How long has that place been boarded up and rotting away?

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 8:36 PM

To be fair to the CG booster, this is a thread about 5 houses that sold, one of which is in CG.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 8:37 PM

"There is something going on at the mystery building on Third Street between 7th and 6th Avenues—the first building west of the old Tempo Presto. Two weeks ago I saw a crew carrying metal and plumbing pipes out of the building."

--- http://tinyurl.com/yod2js

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 8:40 PM

Architecure? i walk in Carroll Gardens every day and henry street and clinton street and all the place blocks are full of beautiful house With a lot of details. I think the area is very small but full of beauty.

Posted by: ronman at March 10, 2008 8:59 PM

CG is a dump.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 10:51 PM

Earth is a dump.

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 11:15 PM

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E1D7153AF936A15757C0A9629C8B63

Posted by: bren at March 10, 2008 11:23 PM

SLOPE IS A REAL+DUMP

Posted by: guest at March 10, 2008 11:37 PM

Holy crap, i can't believe the bile I see spewing from the Park Slope goons on this thread.

Posted by: guest at March 11, 2008 12:03 AM

your bile, 12:03 seems most potent of anyone who posted.

Posted by: guest at March 11, 2008 10:35 AM

the park slope goons simply protect what is theirs from rabid fucks like you 12:03. don't mess.

Posted by: guest at March 11, 2008 10:52 AM

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