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March 4, 2008

House of the Day: Third Shot at 204 Washington Park

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Will the third time be the charm? The owners of 204 Washington Park are hoping so. In August, Corcoran got the ball rolling with a $3,100,000 listing price. Then Fillmore had a go at $2,900,000 in October. Now Brown Harris Stevens is getting a shot at $2,950,000. At least BHS is getting to market the place unencumbered by tenant clutter. This is definitely a sweet pad—five stories, lots of detail, park views. Our only nit: baseboard heating. There's also no mention of SRO status. If that's been dealt with, we could see the 5,750-square-foot place attracting interest. If not, it's a pipedream.
204 Washington Park [Brown Harris Stevens] GMAP P*Shark
Trying Again at 204 Washington Park [Brownstoner]
HOTD: 204 Washington Park [Brownstoner]




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enough with this house already!! this has been discussed to death.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:25 PM

yeah no one has any money for this house

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:28 PM

was overpriced with corcoran, was overpriced with fillmore and is still overpriced. end of story. next!!!

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:28 PM

overpriced, overpriced and overpriced. maybe the fourth time they will get it right

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:35 PM

for this money, would rather be in the north slope.

sorry, but true.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:37 PM

In comparison to yesterdays HOTD in Boerum Hill this kicks ass...two more floors, fronting the park, and no gut renovation to complete.

Having said that, that price is so 2006.

Posted by: kuroko at March 4, 2008 1:40 PM

I rather buy 4 houses this size in Bedford Stuyvesant

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:41 PM

Meh. Nearly $3m and then you still have to reno? Meh.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:41 PM

Try the sixth time

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:41 PM

For 5 floors, there sure aren't alot of pictures.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:44 PM

Worrisome, isn't it?

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:54 PM

My friend used to rent a unit here and went back to see it when it was first listed with Corcoran. The only detail in the house is what you see in the pictures. There is nothing more. The house is completely stripped on the inside. A rental kitchen has been planted smack in the middle of the front parlor, right next to the mantle. And the garden level had major flood issues. It's only viable for a developer, but at this price it doesn't make sense for the developer's bottom line. Also, I see from the Prop Shark link that it's still technically a 9-family.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 1:58 PM

See this comment at 4:47pm, from August 2, 2007 HOTD thread regarding this house and linked to above. I can corroborate this as I saw it with Fillmore:

"I live very nearby - the house is 23 by 50, with an 8 foot extension on garden and parlor floors, bringing square footage to 6100 (from the exterior). Horrendous renovation, permits not closed out because huge code violations (electric and others), still has SRO C of O (hence the B&B reference by Corcoran), boiler violations, repeated flooding of garden and parlor floors (garden not occupied as a result), configured as rentals on every floor except 4/5 floor duplex. Have an engineer look VERY HARD at this house.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:03 PM

Five floors of brownstone, who needs it?

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:14 PM

1:37 - Here we go again with PS.

Guess what? We don't give a F*** that you would rather live in PS! if you want to live in Park Slope - then do it! Just leave threads about houses in other neighborhoods alone!

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:15 PM

You mean threads about the SAME house that no once gives a rats ass about, 2:15?

Just because you wish you could afford ps, doesn't mean you need to get snippy.

This is a free country. We can talk about anything we please. Talking about PS is a lot better than the trash you just spewed.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:24 PM

I'd also rather live in PS.

Suck it, 2:15!!!!

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:26 PM

with the new ethopian place and babeland, who wouldn't rather live in park dope???

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:30 PM

Where is that bitter renter The tWhat complaining from under her rock?

Park Slope sucks. Suck it, slopers.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:35 PM

OK the house in subject is in Fort Greene lets talk about that area

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:39 PM

I do not know who would want to buy these tall houses except someone wanting to open a boarding house or maybe a polygamist.
Too many floors, too many stairs, too much money, too much work to make livable.
Pretty facade though.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:48 PM

holy moly! This house has pages and pages of open violations, including concealed leaks, defective plaster, and failure to maintain/hazardous. For a house that will apparently need a total gut, this price is insane, no matter how nice of a park location it has. Anything over $2 million makes absolutely no economic sense.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 2:48 PM

With a new elevator it could make sense as a four or five unit condo. But I'm not sure there is a good profit margin at this asking.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 3:02 PM

FYI: Fillmore had reduced it to $2.8 million before giving up.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 3:03 PM

I would rather have the smaller house from yesterday with the 3-car garage. That is a manageable size, plus it is a corner house, plus it had already been cleaned out and opened up on the inside.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 3:12 PM

Didn't corcoran just sell one down the block for over 3? They were calling it beautiful dream or some crap like that and it looked like hell, but someone bought it.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 3:51 PM

No, 3:51. The two idiots from Corcoran who are listing 193 Washington Park did not sell it yet. It's still on the market. They just reduced to the price to a still ludicrous $3.625. That house will also continue to sit, just like all their other listings sit, forever--no matter how many cheesy catchphrases in bold red font they use in their listings. Total schmucks those two.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:04 PM

I'd rather have 5 floors of space and backyard. The possibilites are endless.

Corner lots are just ok to me. there's little or no backyard,pesky kids tagging on your home, noise from traffic and more ground to shovel.

3 million for a SRO in Ft Green is pushing it a tad bit. I've seen a couple of SRO(s) same size for less in PS and PH.

-Jack

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:08 PM

I think having a house facing fort green park has as many downsides as positive. it sure can get noisy around the park all times of day and night.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:12 PM

But Prospect Heights and Park Slope suck.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:15 PM

Facing the park is great. I'm sure they get beautiful afternoon sun. The Park is no longer the "killing field" it used to be long ago (1990's).

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:31 PM

2:15 - We know you hate the slope and slopers - enough already!! Nobody cares what you think - it is just stupid to hate a neighborhood - get over yourself.

It is perfectly legit for someone to post comparing what they would rather spend the $$ on in a different neighborhood in brownstone Brooklyn - (unlike the posts about what you can get in say, Kansas, which are just stupid) - as such comparisons are relevant to people looking to buy in various neighborhoods.

I appreciate such posts - they are are way of saying "let's look at reality" about prices.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 4:46 PM

i would not want to live near ft. greene park.

it's still sktechy as all hell at night.

my roommate bought weed there two weekends ago.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 5:00 PM

ft greene is lovely. ps sucks ass.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 5:44 PM

ft. greene didn't win top 10 neighborhood in the u.s.

and it's not getting a babeland.

or an ethiopian restaurant.

and prospect park is 1000 times better than the shitshow dustbowl known as ft. greene park.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 5:57 PM

5:57-doesn't matter what PS gets it still will fucking blow.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 6:02 PM

I would live in this house but it really does need quite a bit of work. These big houses only made sense when they sold for 1-point-something and got a full reno. THEN, after that, they could get the kind of price being asked for this property.

Actually, it is fairly quite facing the park at night away from DeKalb. And, it's not sketchy as someone above wrote. It can be very loud when there's a huge music event in the park of course. The green"e" market is nice and since the park is so popular, it is an ever-changing tableau...sort of Currier and Ives meet Seurat.

Oh, well. It reflects badly on us other Fort Greener homeowners when these houses are overpriced. Would be better to just let them sell for a regular amount to someone who can afford the dough to renovate properly...OR, decide simply to rent the apartments and put these units back into the supply. All these empty apartments because owners want to sell "vacant". Hhh...

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 7:11 PM

Ft. Greene Park is a nightmare. Drug dealing, guys having circle jerks, homeless people sleeping there, loud music, men in trenchcoats.
Why would someone pay 3 million dollars to live on it?

Makes no sense.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 7:37 PM

^And all the bodies buried in the park too.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 7:43 PM

oh yeah.

the bodies.

f*ck. i'll stay in park slope then.

we might have the drugs and sex in prospect, but we don't have as many dead bodies i don't think.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 8:11 PM

Are we talking about the remains of the poor revolutionary-war prisoners buried under the giant column memorial in Ft Greene Park? The column was designed by McKim Mead and White and serves as a reminder of American prisoners who died at the hands of the British during the American war for independence. The prisoners were starved to death on ships in Wallabout Bay. That's what the giant column is meant to commemorate, in case some of you did not know.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 8:31 PM

The people in the Farragut Housing Projects were starved to death when a developer took their supermarket. Do you think they will be buried under the giant column in Fort Green Park too?

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 8:50 PM

8:50, does your mom know you are on this site?

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 8:54 PM

foolio, starving for rims and air jordans dont really count.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 8:55 PM

7:37- you're a nightmare. Ft. Greene is beautiful and diverse unlike PS which is completely gentrified and obnoxious.

Posted by: guest at March 4, 2008 11:50 PM

Townhouse: $2,950,000.00

Renovations: $600,000.00

Having to think twice before taking a walk at night: PRICELESS!

Posted by: guest at March 5, 2008 9:19 AM

renovations= 150k

Posted by: guest at March 5, 2008 9:58 AM

11:50: you are ignorant.

ps and ft. greene are practically the same thing. same exact people with a few more white people who think they are black in ft. greene.

otherwise the same thing.

and ps has a substantial hispanic population that ft. greene does not have. wise up and read some actual demographic facts.

Posted by: guest at March 5, 2008 10:46 AM

This house requires substantially more than 600K in renovation. It requires a gut, whether you're a developer or a family. A mere glance at the violations of the last 10 years, almost all of which are still open, tells you all you need to know. This is a money pit at this price.

Posted by: guest at March 5, 2008 10:58 AM

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