League Treatment Center To Take Poplar Police Building

What would be cool is if they converted it to luxury condos for troubled youth.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:20 AM

While you were writing that, Hancock, I keyed your Yukon.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:21 AM

I'm heading over to BH right now to soak up some of that chagrin.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:21 AM

This seems like a good use for the building.
I hear the reason it was not great for use as condos is that there is not enough rear yard to meet code. I don't think the use decision has anything to do with the wishes of the neighbors or the community at large. I just hope they start rehabilitation work soon.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:21 AM

this should have been a middle school -- or an extension to PS8 (as they had hoped). But instead the city sold it to a group who didn't realize it was in a historic district (?) and now this. too bad

OTOH I have nothing against the League Treatment Center -- they have been a good neighbor in dumbo -- and I'm happy it's them and not condos

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:27 AM

this should have been a middle school -- or an extension to PS8 (as they had hoped). But instead the city sold it to a group who didn't realize it was in a historic district (?) and now this. too bad

OTOH I have nothing against the League Treatment Center -- they have been a good neighbor in dumbo -- and I'm happy it's them and not condos

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:27 AM

Right on Mr. Hancock! Let the Nimby's get what they deserve-instant reduction in property value & quality of life. I wish this would happen more often.
“LPC and DOB restrictions coupled with a lack of cooperation/enthusiasm from neighbors and the Brooklyn Heights Association made the ownership seek other development options"

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:34 AM

Astonishing - and gratifying - that this could go through. Most uses that would trigger NIMBY activity end up on the east side of Flatbush in CB2 (unless they're in the Atlantic/Boerum area). But since they're still in CB2, siting authorities can still say "Community Board 2 isn't oversaturated" - because they're not obligated to consider the fact that most of the saturation is in specific supersaturated areas of the Community Board, and bypasses the Heights.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:40 AM

while NIMBY is not always welcome no matter where you live, i do understand the concern of many when you have an organization in the neighborhood that is attracting a population that is already troubled (with the law). Recidovism (sorry for the bad spelling)is very high and most folks fall back on a life of crime. Hence, the neighborhood becomes a bigger target.
I think a better use for this building would be a school (annex)

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 10:52 AM

MrHancock and his buddy at 10:34 don't know what they're talking about. (I know, not a prerequisite on blogs.) The people on the block and, until they didn't, the Brooklyn Heights Association WANTED market-rate housing. So, phrases like "anti-condo, anti progress busybodies" is bull.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:05 AM

I must hand it to the BHA and neighbors. While they supported the condo idea and really wanted the school to expand, they didn't FREAK OUT when the treatment center approached them.

Say what you want, but I can assure you the "liberals" in park slope would never have allowed this in their area.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:21 AM

The League Center mainly services autistic children and adults. So they are "troubled" in a different way than juvenile delinquents.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:25 AM

I was going to say this. I wouldn't describe these kids/adults as "troubled"

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:41 AM

I don't understand many of the prior comments. How could the Brooklyn Heights Association, or if this were Park Slope, the Park Slope Association, stop this tenant from renting a building in their neighborhood even if they wanted to?
This is an as-of-right use. There are no special permits or waivers or blessing from the community board required at all.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:51 AM

A few months ago there were posters on this blog who were convinced that the BHA was secretly pushing this use. Although for what reason, I could not imagine.
Now posters are writing that this well-regarded school for autistic children is somehow going to diminish property values in Brooklyn Heights.
I think this all goes to show that many posters do not know what they are talking about.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:59 AM

11:51 -- of COURSE there is!

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 12:01 PM

11:21, you sound like a typical Carroll Gardens jealous loser to me. Enjoy your parkless, subpar school encrusted wannabe hood.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 12:17 PM

This building was built as a police precinct house -not a residential building so ironically residential use would require zoning waivers (because of the small back yard) but school use like this is as of right. Schools, or "community facilities" in planner-speak can actually cover the entire lot.
It is a good fit for the building.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 12:46 PM

Those kids are out of control I seen them coming and going in dumbo. people aren't going to be happy in the heights with these out of control kids. Beleive me I would move if they came near me. I hear them cursing, yelling at drivers, the buses block the streets. The stupid city masses retarted children with Delinquents. Im a retired Det and they always rob them. This is not a good thing for the heights. I locked up dozens of these kids for robbery

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 1:42 PM

You got your gold shield with spelling and grammar like that? I'd hate to read your DD-5s.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 1:52 PM

If you want to see delinquents in the Heights all you have to do is hang around St Ann's Prep. Talk about troubled teens.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 1:59 PM

Hey 1:52 its boobs like you, if you were on the job, were more interested in stupid shit like spelling and grammer then making collars. I bet I had more collars than you in a month than u did in a year. I bet your a typical dipshit boss then a real cop.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:10 PM

St. Ann's has some of the most creative, intelligent, beautiful, successful young people in the history of the world, 1:59. Are you just jealous because your parents couldn't afford to send you there? I'm guessing that's a yes.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:11 PM

2:11
St Anns kids are mostly a pack of druggies.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:23 PM

Best drugs in the borough: St. Ann's

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:43 PM

Many of the kids put themselves through school that way.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:45 PM

My child goes to St. Ann's and it is laughable that you people think that by posting some claptrap on a blog that you can disparage what is indisputably a unique, amazing institution of higher learning (pun NOT intended, idiots). Of course there are drugs around, go to ANY school and tell me there aren't any drugs. And sure, they have anal and oral sex orgies from time to time while high on X and whippets--but take a trip over to Berkeley Carroll or out to Poly Prep and tell me that the students there aren't indulging in similar "steam blowing off" behavior. Wake up people, it's 2008 and kids are just bein' kids and will always just be kids. Lighten up and get used to the fact that this new generation is more mature than you were at the same age and will, with places like the amazing St. Ann's nurturing them, change this world for the better. And, incidentally, own large parts of it and live VERY comfortably while supporting me and my wife in our dotage.

Good day.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 2:46 PM

Geez, I didn't know about the drugs, but i have always thought that kids from St. Ann's were amazingly rude and snooty. But maybe that is their home environment, why blame it all on the school?
On the other hand the kids in my building who go to PS 8 are perfectly nice normal kids. No "goth divas" or the like.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 4:07 PM

I think the kids at st ann are far more difficult than the kids that will be coming to Poplar st. the kids from st anns all act like they have entitlement: entitled to be rude, throw litter everywhere, block the sidewalks, oh and did i say be rude? maybe the learning centere will have their kids better disciplined and behaved and far more appreciative of an opportunity to learn.
oh, and 2:46: YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING?

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 4:24 PM

I think 2:46 is kidding.
I think.
oral sex orgies, X, and whipppets?
Yes, definitely kidding. I hope.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 4:56 PM

Hi, St. Ann here. I have to say I'm not happy with the rude little bastards that go to my namesake school. They're entitled little pretentious rich kids who get "no grades" so can therefore follow their muse (heathens) to whatever drug addled end it leads them.

God Bless!

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 5:43 PM

The League Center did not adversely effect eal estate prices in DUMBO why should it in Brooklyn Heights? While I would rather see the building turned into high-end residential, I know that the owner is perhaps the most inept developer on the East Coast and obtaining the special permit -a standard procedure- is beyond him, so this use is OK. At least it will not continue being vacant. Why are the very worst and most inept developers attracted to Brooklyn Heights?

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 6:56 PM

I bet the people on poplar are not too happy cause it won't help their property values. Keep bringing down those property values!!! Keep on plummeting!!

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 7:31 PM

Yeah, 7:31, it'll happen. Prices will drop to early 2000 levels and you can buy that brownstone you've been holding out fore. Well played.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 7:39 PM

sorry to disappoint everyone that thought that this school is for the trouble youth, the school is not for troubled youth. the school is for children that are 3-7 years old that have developmental delay issues.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 8:22 PM

those developmentally delayed kids will turn into delinquents once those St. Ann's kids corrupt them with their drugs and sex parties.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 8:29 PM

The only way that property will lose its value is if the job market in NY collapses. Then things will drop like a stone because there is no real value to most of these properties except proximity to jobs. There is no property or amenities or beauty or spaciousness, they are all pretty awful cramped little spaces. New York is not about qulaity of life or amenity it is about ambition and work, work, work. No work, and there will be nothing here. So pray that the banks and law firms stay in town.

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 8:37 PM

where the fuck else are the banks and law firms going to go? cleveland?

Posted by: guest at February 25, 2008 11:34 PM

hey they can go just as easily to where all the back office operations for them have ALREADY gone - new jersey, connecticut, LI, upstate, and pa. internet & telephone much?

Posted by: guest at February 26, 2008 12:14 AM

the back office nitwits can live in the hinterlands. if your big boys aren't in nyc, they are, by default, little boys. wake up much?

Posted by: guest at February 26, 2008 9:37 AM

my brooklyn height's neighbor has a kid at this place. he's 6 and has autism. not exactly a juvi or "troubled"

Posted by: guest at February 26, 2008 10:05 AM

Residential Treatment Centers provide a kind of therapy to the disturbed teenagers for healing of their mind and spirit. In addition to academics, students are engaged in activities like community services, behavioral modification services, individual, group and family counseling etc.
http://www.teenageproblems.net/

Posted by: guest at March 7, 2008 11:54 PM