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February 28, 2008
Co-op of the Day: 61 Pierrepont Street, #43

Three bedrooms in a prewar building in The Heights for $800,000? Sounds like a good dealat least on the surface. Unfortunately, the surface is as far as this listing at 61 Pierrepont Street lets you go. There's not a single interior photo of this sponsor unit. The lack of disclosure combined with the fact that the unit just received a $65,000 price cut after three weeks on the market doesn't inspire confidence in the state of the apartment. (Plus, sponsors aren't known for the quality of the renovations in general.) Anyone seen it who can shed a little light?
61 Pierrepont Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark
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Small rooms, would not want to touch this apartment.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 12:59 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzz
if it were in park slope, i'd consider it.
seems to be the only neighborhood where prices are holding steady.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:00 PM
It's a 1,050 SQUARE FOOT three bedroom in a The Heights - hence the small rooms. That translates to $762 per square foot. It's not out of line for this area, but it's not a steal either, especially considering the lack of inside pics should raise eyebrows. Nice location though.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 28, 2008 1:01 PM
By the way, I love Corcoran-speak, "a large...1050 Square Foot...". Is that opposed to a tiny 1050 square feet? Yes, "a canvas on which to paint your dreams" would make me scared to look inside.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 28, 2008 1:04 PM
762 per sq. ft. is expensive.....assuming a gut rehab.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:06 PM
here we go.....bash the apartment right and left even though it's clearly a renovation project and clearly if this were fully renovated it would cost at least 1.2 million. but keep on with your ignorant posts...too afraid to look inside, blah blah blah blah blah. doesn't matter that it costs much less than it should, let's bash it anyway because we hate ourselves and have to take it out on someone.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:08 PM
1:00, were you calling for me?
Posted by: z at February 28, 2008 1:09 PM
1:00-- that makes no sense. If Park Slope is the only area where prices are holding (which I question), then it is the last place you want to buy now. The goal here is to buy in an area where prices have already gone down--not in an area where they have yet to decline. That way you spend less money and the price won't drop as much in the future. See?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:10 PM
800k for a tear-down in Brooklyn Heights is stupid, way more upside in DUMBO.
There's no way Corcoran would sell a condo that's worth 1.2MM renovated for 800k, even if it needed work. Shame on you 1:08
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:14 PM
Could there be a worse layout? Walk into the unit and one bedroom is located immediately on the left. From the bedroom on the top left of the floorplan, you have to walk through the dining room and living room to get to the only bathroom.
What would it cost to tear down every interior wall and start over?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:15 PM
1:08 is clearly a broker -- could it be vicki negron?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:17 PM
1:08, I don't think saying $762 per sf is right for the area or maybe a bit high if a gut rehab is involved is exactly bashing it left or right. I don't know how you can make the assumption it costs much less than it should. That seems pretty ignorant.
Agree with 1:14, I've seen many Corcoran listings on the web and in person; not one ever seemed UNDERpriced!
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 28, 2008 1:17 PM
so the house in park slope that sold for 250K over ask wasn't underpriced, 1:17?
seems that would be the DEFINITION of underpriced to me.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:21 PM
1:08 here
WTF is Biff C. saying? Can someone please translate that into English?
...and he called my statement ignorant....at least it's coherent.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:24 PM
methinks 1:08 and 1:21 are the same person... c'mon ms. negron sign in as yourself.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:24 PM
The problem with this apartment is that there is only one bath. That is a huge downside. There are many 2-bedroom / one bath apts in the historic buildings in the Heights, but a 3-bedroom, 1-bath is unusual.
These places were meant for old-line WASPS who knew how to hold it in. By any decent modern standard this apartment is useless.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:27 PM
I find you more useless than this apt, 1:27.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:29 PM
Anyone notice and closets ???
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:32 PM
There is 1 closet each in the top left and bottom BR.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:34 PM
What do you need to do to become a SVP at Corcoran?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:36 PM
a computer with caps lock...
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:38 PM
Okay, you got me, 1:21. Corcoran rarely overprices their apartments. Go surf Streeteasy and compare how many of their listings get reduced in price versus how many sell above ask.
1:08/1:24/Ms. Negron - the fact that you said "clearly if this were fully renovated it would cost at least 1.2 million" pretty much explains why you don't understand anything. You really think this is worth $1,143 per sf even after a gut reno? Better take a reality pill, dude.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 28, 2008 1:38 PM
If this were in Park Slope, it would fetch 1.4 million.
Easy.
Isn't Brooklyn Heights over?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:42 PM
mmm... Park Slope is delicious.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:44 PM
If this were in Gowanus, it would fetch 11.4 million.
Easy.
Isn't Park Slope over?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:45 PM
I would not even want to buy a one bedroom without one-and-a-half baths. Of course New Yorkers have no standards, they would share a bath down the hall with the neighbors, they would pee in a chamber pot.
We get the kind of housing we demand.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:46 PM
Its not like Vics hasnt dealt with this building before.
She has photos for this one she sold.
http://corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=1056679
I smell a rat (not the large blowup kind).
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:49 PM
Why does everyone always complain that the fixer uppers aren't priced much lower. Why would the broker do that. Someone who can't afford full price, but is handy will snap this up and realize that they are paying more than market for the condition, but less than market will be after their renovation. Or-- they won't care about resale, since they just want to buy and fix up the place they can afford in the neighborhood they want to live in.
We bought a similar place in the slope a few years ago, and needed to replace and resurface everything. It didn't even have a kitchen, and the bath was barely working. No one would touch the place, and the layout was poor. But we got it because I could do most of the reno myself and GC the rest, and it cost us very little in labor to do. We spent more on the materials as a result. We loved living there and working on the place, and we sold the place recently for more than twice what we paid for it, and also way above ask. You could redo this place in a nice way for 40K including materials and you could bring the value up to 900/square foot. You're still making a 100K in equity. What if the market drops 100K- well you still got an apt in the neighborhood you wanted vs somewhere else, and your brooklyn heights apt will hold up better.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:49 PM
The point Buffy C. is that not only is it not worth 1.2 renovated, it's not worth 800 as-is. It's still 10% too high.
co-ops are stupid anyway....pony up and get a condo.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:49 PM
Man, this is one hard-assed crowd. Are you guys saying you don't see the many ways this could be configured? Which walls are load-bearing anyway? Knock out the wall for that bedroom on the bottom and you have a huge living space. Maybe turn the dining room into a master bedroom and the bedroom on the left into a huge bath (pipes are avail with the kitchen right there). I'm not saying any of that can be done, but live it up and get crazy for once! A Brooklyn Heights prewar is pretty platinum-standard in my book.
Maybe it's just me, but when I finally get enough green to buy, I'm kind of hoping for an apartment that needs renovation. There's no end to the bad taste people use in their own renovations. I've seen maybe two or three apartments *ever* that I'd just move into.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:57 PM
3BR/1BA REALLY SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE IS.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:03 PM
Here's what another apt in that building looks like.
Hey, Its Vicki's too.
What up with photos for this one Vicks?
http://corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=1056679
Must be a dump
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:03 PM
The 3rd room is not a BedRoom. It has no windows. It is at most a Home Office/Home Occupancy. I wouldn't dirty my shoes to see that fugly place. Brooklyn Heights is dead, nothing but over the hill, 40ish and 50ish Nimby losers hating everything different from them.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:06 PM
Maintenance seems awfully high, doesn't it? And in an old-school bklyn heights bldg. like this, I'd doubt that neighbors would have much patience for the noise and disruptions of extensive renovations too.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:12 PM
Great location, although it's hard not to chuckle at "Apartment needs complete renovation. WELCOME HOME.". Maintenance is high to boot.
Posted by: MsBrooklyn at February 28, 2008 2:18 PM
Ever hear the phrase "location, location, location"?
Brooklyn Heights has it. Prices there, on average, will always be higher than anywhere else in Brooklyn. Most midle- and high-income people who live in New York City work in Manhattan. If they live outside of Manhattan, then they want a short commute to Manhattan. Brooklyn Heights has the shortest Brooklyn commute into Manhattan Enough said.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:18 PM
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Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:21 PM
A chamber pot is period appropriate.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:22 PM
"Brooklyn Heights has the shortest Brooklyn commute into Manhattan"
But that's ALL it has. I'd rather have a slightly longer ride for a much more interesting neighborhood.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:26 PM
My husband and I saw this last week. Even after a total gut job, the floorplan would still be very, very weird. (Though we were told that the Board would permit the installation of a 2nd bathroom in the first bedroom on left. The unit owners below also bought one of these gut reno jobs and installed a full bath in the same place, so there's existing plumbing to work off of.)
But even with that, you've still got a weird floorplan. That first bedroom on the left has to become, at the very least, an office if you're putting a 2nd bathroom there.
Also, the apartment doesn't get much light (even though the ceilings were a decent height) and most of the windows look out onto Love Lane Garage.
We understood going in that this was a gut reno, but it was really disgusting. A rent stabilized tenant had been in there for 30 years. Portions of the hardwood floor had to be ripped up and replaced with plywood because it was "weak". I commend whoever takes this on, because it's going to be a LOT of work.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:31 PM
2:26, most people disagree with you. Maybe not with their mouths, but they do with their wallets. If they agreed, prices in the Heights would be lower relative to other Brooklyn neighborhoods. But they're not.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:35 PM
It's not a matter of whether Brooklyn Heights is more or less interesting than neighborhood X. It's about the value people put on commute vs. other amenities. The prices seem to indicate people value commute over other amenities (which assumes that the amenities are "better" elsewhere).
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:39 PM
Know the building well and it has very old pipes, elec, etc and every renovation ends up costing a zillion bucks. also, the layout is nust and you look out on love lane which is cute now, but is going to be condos soon with height extension. this apartment doesn't clear that line. if you want a nice 2bedroom, 1 bath.. you can make this work.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:42 PM
renovated, this place in this configuration would be 945kish. so I think the price is a little high
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:56 PM
I don't get the commute argument.
Bk heights = 30 min commute to midtown on a PACKED train where you have to stand up.
Park Slope = 40 min commute to midtown on a PACKED train where always get a seat.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 2:58 PM
I live in Park Slope and it takes me 55 minutes from door to desk and I often stand the whole way. I used to live in BH and it took 25. I LOVE Park Slope but everyone here misstates their commuting time and I don't get it! Maybe if you live on top of the 2/3 and work on that line... otherwise, c'mon BH does have all the lines and they're all close. It may be the only thing they have, but they have it!
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:06 PM
Co-op boards are the worst, get a condo or a house.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:12 PM
thank you 2:58. exactly.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:14 PM
Just covered my sears (S) short from 2005.....that was better than sex.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:16 PM
Some of us have too much excitement during the day and appreciate boring when we go home at night. Brooklyn Heights is delightfully boring as far as I'm concerend.
This apartment is worth it if you can put another bathroom in. What would that and a kitchen redo cost? $60,000 -80,000? It's worth it.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:19 PM
Park Slope is the best. Simply the best.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:22 PM
Park Slope is nice, but it's no Bensonhurst.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:25 PM
But the commute from Bensonhurst...........
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:28 PM
Clearly sold as a gut reno "AS IS" and "paint your dreams." If that isn't your goal (to do a gut reno) then don't look at it. Some people want that.
Some people also like no board approval sponsor units. (Though you'd have to get your renovation plan past the board - but if they are reasonable, they'd want this place to be renovated.)
What's with the sponsor charging buyer the transfer tax? I know sponsors converting rentals to condos do this, but I didn't know coop sponsors selling units they've held do that - can someone tell me if that is also common, or the norm?
There are obviously things you could do with reconfiguring that space to suit you. And it isn't clear to me that the first bedroom doesn't have windows - it looks like there may be some on the side (line is very unclear.)
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:33 PM
my commute from park slope to the upper west side is 40 minutes, door to door.
2/3 or the Q.
and we have shops, restaurants and the best park in the city.
i'd take that over brooklyn heights any day of the week.
on weekends, i don't even need to live the neighborhood if i don't feel like it.
when i lived in brooklyn heights, ALL i wanted to do was leave the neighborhood.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:35 PM
Hey, I prefer the Slope to BH, but this is one of the really nicest streets/places in the Heights, near the Promenade and all. Though parking there is impossible.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:36 PM
I find Park Slope just as boring as BH.
At least BH is prettier and doesn't pretend to be something it's not with a bunch of phoneys.
And if you work on Wall St, the commute to BH kills the one in PS. Either 7 more stops on the 2/3, or take the F and transfer God knows where.
Oh, I'm young and have money, so why in the Hell would i want to hang out in Park Slope? I want to LIVE in a neighborhood that's quiet and boring. I'll hang out in Manhattan.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:38 PM
yeah, no one in park slope is young or has money, 3:38.
you are the most moronic poster on this thread.
and that's saying a lot.
the median age of bh is about 10-15 years more than ps, btw.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:42 PM
The layout of this unit is not bad, compact, but not bad. I would take out a few partitions, add a bath where the walk in closet is, and end up with a 1.3 million dollar home. I would also negotiate the price a bit. The fact that it's a sponsor unit is terrific, no tedious board application process. And the building is beautiful.
The problem is that you could not just move in. The reno will take nine months but any major reno takes nine months.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:44 PM
3:38 does everyone who lives in BH works on Wall Street?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:47 PM
"Oh, I'm young and have money, so why in the Hell would i want to hang out in Park Slope?"
You're as insecure as that 44yr old lawyer yesterday.
Why do people get off on saying how well off they are on an anonymous blog?
Im the Dali Lama.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:50 PM
This is going to sound wierd, but a too short commute is possible. When I lived in Park Slope, I could drink my coffee and read the paper on the way to work. When I lived in the Village and worked downtown, my ride was so short, I couldn't do either. I found myself at work without the transition that got me ready to want to be there.
P.S. commute to downtown was just right (2,3,Q side of the 'hood.) But it was annoying when I worked in midtown - but the Q has improved access since then - it's quicker to midtown now than the old D train was.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:53 PM
3:47
well when commuting comparisons are made using midtown as an example, it's fair to look at another option.
Lots of people in BH work downtown. Commute to work is often a big factor in choosing a neighborhood (since many of us work for a living)
BH has a superior commute to every part of manhattan, is more visually appealing, and a closer cab ride from real nightlife in manhattan.
And the selling prices reflect that. PS is lovely, but it's not on the same playing field as BH.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:54 PM
Hey Biff, do you actually work?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:54 PM
Thanks, Mr. Hancock, didn't know that.
So you do pay heavily for not having to get board approval.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:54 PM
why do the park slopers have to crash every damn thread?
omg! we're not talking about you here, for once, okay?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:56 PM
This is nice, but you can get a crappy house btw 4th and 5th ave for 1.7 million!!
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 3:58 PM
Why didn't you just walk to work if the subway ride is too short?
Park slope people will complain about ANYTHING, huh.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:01 PM
The building must have an extremely large underlying mortgage for the maintenance to be this high without doormen. Doormen are important. Actually, they make all the difference in terms of deliveries and security. It's so nice to come home late and have your friendly doorman greet you and give you your packages or messages. For this level of maintenance I want to see more services.
The ask price is good though for the Heights.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:02 PM
Get a clue, 3:56.
It's the insecure Park Slope haters that brought it up first.
Are you that blind??
"i'm young and rich and hate park slope"
My god. Talk about boring!!!
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:02 PM
And? This place wouldn't cost 1.7 million, even with the gut reno. And between 4th and 5th aren't as nice blocks as this.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:02 PM
at least 5th avenue has shops and restaurants.
montague is the sorriest excuse of a shopping/eating area i've seen.
ditmas park has nicer restaurants.
who's the ahole that thinks the only fun stuff is in manhattan? did you just crawl out of a hole?? brooklyn is where the younger/hipper crowd hangs out these days...union hall, southpaw, southslope, greenpoint, smith street, etc.
manhattan is nothing but 16 year old jersey whores and red lobsters.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:06 PM
Brownstoner is a genius.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:08 PM
nice try, 4:06.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:10 PM
I banged a hot chick I met at Union Hall last weekend.
Model from Argentina.
Guess where she was staying?????
You guessed it...Hotel Le Bleu.
Have a WHOLE new respect for that hotel.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:15 PM
Keep telling yourself that 4:06.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:18 PM
"Model from Argentina"
Thats AWESOME ! ! !
God I love The Slope
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:25 PM
3:54, yes I do. Thanks for asking.
Posted by: Biff Champion at February 28, 2008 4:32 PM
I sometimes forget that the median age on this blog is twenty-four going on seventeen.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:34 PM
Agree, 5th has better restaurants than Montague St. It's all about trade-offs, really - some prefer the proximity to good restaurants, some prefer the nicer block - depends on how one lives one's life.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:37 PM
I didn't think it was possible to hate the PSers anymore than I did yesterday. But today I find that all things are possible.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:38 PM
I get a seat on the Q or B at the 7th ave stop about 1 in every 30 rides in the morning.
just to bring that shit up again
I would live in Brooklyn Heights but I cant afford that. I would be cheaper to live in LES or Chinatown.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:44 PM
Yeah, whenever I actually try to get to work early, the Q train is full. It is a nicer ride when you have a job you can show up a bit later for.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 4:53 PM
Brooklyn Heights is shabby. Admit it. It's run down and the local amenities are terrible. It's close to Manhattan. That's all.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:05 PM
So, how was Le Bleu? Did you get to enjoy the peekaboo shower?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:07 PM
slopers ALWAYS have something to complain about.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:08 PM
nice try 5:05.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:11 PM
Slopers always have someone to complain about them. Sad, sad little complainers.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:11 PM
Brownstoner owns all you Park Slopers. It's like remote control.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:18 PM
Argentines are sluts.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 5:36 PM
yeah, she was a little slutty.
i didn't mind one bit.
le bleu is nice as hell. loved the bed, especially.
and the floor.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:16 PM
Dear Penthouse Forum...
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:19 PM
The WORST thing about Brooklyn Heights are all the old, old money whores who get into all your business.
The whole fight about the entrance into the new park and how they didn't want anyone walking on their blocks.
I've worked on boards with many of these horrendous women who live on Joralemon, Columbia Heights, Pierrepont, Orange, Hicks and Love Lane.
Trust me...you DON'T want them as neighbors.
They are so incredibly bitter that their Wall Street hubbies are banging their secretaries and take it out on anyone and everyone.
It's really sick actually. They are not fun people. And there are a lot of them in BH.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:22 PM
Personally, I find BH too WASPy. I had the pleasure of spending last Sunday near the Grace Church, and the amount of overdressed, Burberry'd WASPs was astounding. It's like Stepford, but in Brooklyn. Makes me uncomfortable in general.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:43 PM
^^^^ Better than the stroller mafia and self entitled dweebs
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:43 PM
yeah, right...no strollers in brooklyn heights 6:43. they're too old and dried up.
and as we heard, there is at least ONE self entitled dweeb in bh...you know the young and rich one who posted here earlier....
you're a moron.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:52 PM
Anyone who says "stroller mafia" is missing a chromosome.
Or two.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 6:56 PM
If this isn't a self entitled BROOKLYN HEIGHTS dweeb, I don't know what is:
"I find Park Slope just as boring as BH.
At least BH is prettier and doesn't pretend to be something it's not with a bunch of phoneys.
And if you work on Wall St, the commute to BH kills the one in PS. Either 7 more stops on the 2/3, or take the F and transfer God knows where.
Oh, I'm young and have money, so why in the Hell would i want to hang out in Park Slope? I want to LIVE in a neighborhood that's quiet and boring. I'll hang out in Manhattan."
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 7:04 PM
Its in Brooklyn so its got to be worth whatever they are asking. Hell, if it sells this month for 800K next month it can be relisted as-is for 1.8 mil and every one of you will be talking about what a great deal it still is and how even the new price will never go down because its prime BH. This is a very hilarious forum to watch.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 7:40 PM
It never ceases to amaze me - this Park Slope hysteria. WHY WHY WHY do they feel the need to pipe up in every thread with their insipid comments (I love love love the slope!!!) I know everyone mocks Carroll Gardens, but I have never seen anyone from there, or Fort Greene, or anywhere else for that matter, feel this compulsive need to insert their neighborhood into every discussion. We in these other neighborhoods understand that brooklyn heights has a lot of appeal to a lot of people. Does that mean I would live there over Carroll GArdens where I live? No. BUT I understand why it's more expensive than CG, and why certain people would choose to live there over our neighborhoods. And YET these F**** park slopers can simply not ever let it go. It is really weird. I have never in my life come across a whole neighborhood with an inferiority complex! OR maybe it's just a handful of defensive brownstoner addicts...
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 7:42 PM
7:42:
what did you add to this thread other than hate?
you seem to need some medication.
who's the one with the inferiority complex? you can't even take a few park slope people touting their neighborhood without jumping in and calling out 70,000 people.
i have never in MY life come across someone so hypocritical.
you've officially ruined the thread with your psychotic babble.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 7:47 PM
There is probably one, or perhaps two, bored twenty-something arrested development cases posting all the Park Slope nonsense. Do what I do, scroll to the next adult post.
Brooklyn Heights is very nice but it is certainly not for everyone. Not even everyone who can afford it. But the nice thing about the Heights is that it has a nice mix of housing. There are houses, mid-rises and high-rises. Something for everyone.
Montague Street is not nearly as awful as people here claim, of course many of the posters here would consider an American-made appliance in their kitchen cause for suicide, so one has to take their opinions in context. This apartment looks very nice, the one thing I don't like is that there isn't a doorman. But that can be addressed in time with the proper management.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 8:01 PM
The "Park Slope is the best neighborhood" posts that pop out of nowhere on totally unrelated threads are the work of trolls, obviously. It's meant to incite comment-frenzy. I refuse to believe they're actual Slope residents.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 8:06 PM
I have lived in PS and now live in BH. They both have their attractions. The commute to Manhattan from BH is great; so many train lines. It is not an exciting neighborhood, but not everyone wants "excitement." It is quiet, the streets are mostly beautiful, and despite what many of you claim, there is a mix of people: old, young, WASPS, Jews, rich, not rich, etc. If you live in PS you probably like PS better. If you live in BH you probably prefer it to PS. To each his own, right? And the proximity to the water in BH is amazing, and the architecture is too.
Posted by: punko at February 28, 2008 8:43 PM
"This apartment looks very nice,"
LOOKS NICE??? it's a gut job with plywood floors!
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 9:07 PM
BH is a nice place to die.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 9:08 PM
Ive lived in BH and PS. My preference is South BH, where Smith St and Cobble Hill are in easy reach.
Posted by: slick at February 28, 2008 10:09 PM
i like the part of bh closest to ps.
i also like those projects in bh near cadman plaza.
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 10:48 PM
slopers keep on whining. why so many crybaby's in the slope?
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 11:53 PM
"Personally, I find BH too WASPy. I had the pleasure of spending last Sunday near the Grace Church, and the amount of overdressed, Burberry'd WASPs was astounding."
Who woulda thunk it, WASPs heading to the Episcopalian church on a Sunday.
I bet in Park Slope, only the pagans and the Buddhists from the co-op go to church.
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 12:01 AM
it is so strange to me that people who seem older than fifteen behave so ridiculously under the cloak of anonymity. Why does everyone care so much about slamming other neighborhoods? Just enjoy yours. I am reminded of people of various religions damning others and wars ensuing. I wish Brownstoner could lift the "guest" status and all your names, e-mails, and home addresses would show up!
-35 Clinton Hill resident who enjoys visiting friends in PS and BH
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 9:11 AM
I bet Vicki is loving that a post about her dump condo as turned to a neighbourhood bitchslap fest
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 9:16 AM
I prefer the Brownstoner posters from BH over the ones from PS, that's for sure.
There are wasps at the protestant churches, it's true. also jews at the synagogues and greeks at the greek orthodox church, etc. It's a crazy crazy neighborhood.
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 10:14 AM
35 clinton -- you forgot your name, email, and apartment number....
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 10:55 AM
the main reason i hate park slope is the fucking people. seriously, the fact that the it's so far away is a godsend. i'm glad you all love your neighborhood so much and hope you never leave it. ugh!
Posted by: guest at February 29, 2008 12:38 PM
There's another apartment on the 8th floor of the same building that's recently been put on the market. Anyone seen it?
Posted by: guest at March 27, 2008 6:19 PM

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