« Slope Armory Athletic Center Comes Out to Play Wednesday Food & Drink Round-Up »
February 27, 2008
Doings on the Carroll Gardens Development Front
Development continues to be Topic A in Carroll Gardens. Developer Billy Stein got the DOB to sign off on his new plans for 360 Smith Street, which has long been the area’s out-of-context bogeyman or a galvanizing point for activists, depending on one’s perspective. When Stein presented revamped (and Scarano-less) plans for the condo a few weeks ago, he wouldn’t commit to a start date for the project, so it’s anyone’s guess when shovels will actually enter the ground here. Meanwhile, over on Court Street, the Clarrett Group has fenced off the former International Longshoreman’s Building at the corner of Union, and demolition on the property is presumably going to commence very soon. Back in November, Clarett (a Brownstoner advertiser) said it intends to construct one building with 30 to 40 condos and five additional townhouses. Clarrett may have to deal with a big demolition at 340 Court, but the pace of work on the project so far has us wagering that it’ll begin to see the light of day before Stein’s 360 Smith.
Controversial 360 Smith Street Building Gets the Green Light [Gowanus Lounge]
Carroll Gardens Considers a Scarano-less 360 Smith [Brownstoner]
Clarett Says It'll Cap 340 Court Height [Brownstoner]
Trackback Pings
TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.brownstoner.com/mte/mt-tb.cgi/4018
Comments
it is soon going to be absolutely impossible to park in CG.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 10:56 AM
good thing there is a subway in this city.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 11:19 AM
They need to stop building right now in carroll Gardens.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 11:31 AM
Correction - Clarett said 30-40 condos and 10 townhouses, not 5.
And in response to 10:56 at least the Clarett project will include an underground garage that should accommodate the cars of the new residents. Not sure what's planned for 360 smith.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 11:44 AM
The Clarett project is excellent for the Carroll Gardens neighborhood. That building on Court Street was an eyesore. Clarett Rocks!!!
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 11:55 AM
Has anyone ridden the F train in the morning rush hour from Carroll Garden to Jay Street? I think that parking is less an issue than the subway.
Between this building and the one coming up on Bond Street (between 2nd and 1st Place) and the one coming up on 3rd Street and Bond. Unless they add more F trains, I foresee waiting at least for two trains before being able to get on.
Also, I am wondering if the underground pipes are ready for all that extra sewage...Oh well, I guess there will be the Gowanus Canal to accommodate this extra load...
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 2:07 PM
2:07 you can always take the B75 bus to Jay Street-Borough Hall?
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 2:22 PM
Oh that's a great idea 2:22!!!...I will take the bus to Jay Street: ie: waiting for the bus for 15 minutes, then wait another 20 minutes for the bus to slowly move down Smith Street - which is also packed in the morning - to finally jump on the subway two stops later and add 1/2 hour to my morning commute. Brilliant! thank you for the recommendation...
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 2:47 PM
Depends on what time in the morning you take the F train. At 7:30 am it's practically empty at Carroll St, and I always get a seat, if not right away, then certainly at Jay St.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 2:52 PM
No 2:47 gets up at 9:00 am to report to work at 8:30 am and than tells his/her boss the train was not running on time. You are correct 2:52, that the F train is not crowded at all at 7:30 in the morning.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 3:40 PM
3:40--Most people have to be at work at 9, so getting on the train at 7:30 doesn't really make sense.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 3:55 PM
3:40 it keeps just getting better, I guess you are unemployed. The F train is crowded from 8:15 until about 9:10 - which is prime rush hour...but thank you for your fabulous input. My argument remains sadly valid. The F train will not be able to accomodate the influx of new people coming to live in Carroll Gardens and it is a problem.
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 4:21 PM
All of this development (even assuming, arguendo, some of it does not materialize) serves as a reminder that it is absolutely vital to bring enhanced F/V service to the Culver Line the moment that viaduct reconstruction is complete. We need to have express and local service on this line. Brooklyn has grown fast in recent years, and we need to play catch up with our transit infrastructure.
Gary
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 4:49 PM
right on Gary!
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 4:56 PM
I had a meeting on 42nd this morning at 9A. Got on the F at Carrol, stood until Borough Hall, sat the rest of the way. Normal commute for me. I'd like more F service too, who wouldn't who lives in CG or CH. But truth is, my NYCTA standards it is one of the less crowded trains. I've noticed that most of the people wanting increased F service are also advocates of downzoning. Why would the City and the MTA increase service to neighborhoods that plan to decrease density? The politicians who take this position (and may or may not know better) will continue to depend on other neighborhoods with higher density and more standing on the train to pay the taxes of the future (and the interest on the MTA bonds).
Posted by: guest at February 27, 2008 9:04 PM
More F trains? How about more G trains, too? Those of you that switch at Jay Street can just as easily switch at Hoyt/Schermerhorn. And maybe some day they really will build that tunnel to connect the G to Atlantic Ave.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/connect-the-g-train
Posted by: guest at February 28, 2008 1:02 PM
Post a comment
Please be patient while your comment is published. It may take a moment.