Thursday Blogwrap

why are people insisting on dragging their little brats to a bar?

cry me a river.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 5:24 PM

So they can get them drunk and have them sleep through the night.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 5:34 PM

Hey MEAN guys,
Read the post again, carefully with feeling. The poster goes there on OFF hours. For her toddler's birthday they were the only ones there between 12 and 1ish PM. Sounds like a plan to me!

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 6:52 PM

Why are some people so hostile to children and their parents? I really don't get it. If a bunch of parents and children want to gather in a (smoke-free) bar on off hours, what's the big deal to you? Or Union Hall? It's fine for Union Hall to set stroller-free hours (because strollers take up a lot of room), but kind of mean and perhaps ultimately self-destructive to blanketly ban people who are and might have been good customers.

The only brat here is the first poster, who thinks people who make different choices from him (at the present time) ought to stay at home in quiet shame. That's the surburban way, 5:24. Not New York.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 6:52 PM

I for one am tired of encountering babies and toddlers EVERY damn place I go. There are no child-free places in Park Slope anymore... NONE.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 7:21 PM

#6:52PM.

You sound level headed and not like one of those typical selfish everything revolves around me and my child mothers/parent but because of the mothers/parents I just described, it is less stressful to just ban them as opposed to cherry picking families. If my place was located in PS, I would do the same thing.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 7:38 PM

We don't need to hear your little brats so just move to the fucking suburbs!!!

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 8:11 PM

That building is still boarded up?

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 9:05 PM

In Copenhagen Moms and dads left their babies outside in the cold while they had lunch. crazy. The problem is parents let the kids run around the restaurant. Hey its a restaurant not your house!!!

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 9:09 PM

Actually, I have read on here that suburbs are the new city, so I suggest you infertile folks move out there and claim the Olive Garden as your zone to rock your barren uterui and numb nuts.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 9:36 PM

Listen, if my kid has busted his ass all week at school and wants to unwind with a couple cocktails with his old man-, who are YOU, 5:24 (you nutless pansyassed fucktard of an asshat) to tell me he can't.

Plus, the kid is 8 and could drink your lily-liver under the proverbial table. So do yourself a favor and quit while you're way behind. STFU while you're at it.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 9:43 PM

gimme a break, loser parents! you chose to have the kid. didn't you hear, bars are for 21 and older. that's right, it's the law, and you calling people num-nutz ain't gonna change it. hey, did someone say suburbs? ...

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 10:11 PM

I agree with 8:11. These parents and their kids are really obnoxious and need to get the hell out. Let them enjoy applebees, fridays, and chili's for some family fun.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 10:17 PM

Weird, weird, weird. Is no place sacred?? If I hit a bar, I don't want to even see a stroller, let alone a toddler or young kid, even if they're on their way out after "off-hours" are ending. Come on! These parents need to realize they should suck it up and be real parents. You have to give up some things and compromise when you have kids. Deal with it. Find another place to hold your kid's first-birthday party. Get over your trying-to-be-cool-parents thing.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 10:27 PM

Holy moly--these stories are what give Park Slope a bad name. Park Slope is the gift that just keeps on giving...

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 10:28 PM

Bringing your kid to a bar for their birthday? Geez, your a real good parent.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 10:36 PM

"As for Union Hall we celebrated our son's first birthday there. Yes, it was more of a party for my husband and I celebrating our surviving our first year of parenthood, but it was wonderful to have a place to sit and have friends drop by, see us, and have a drink and some comestibles. "

See, it's all about THEM. Why should ANY bar patron have to deal with toddlers at a freaking bar, off-hours or not? It's insane.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 11:01 PM

Isn't there a Chuck E Cheese's on Flatbush? That would be more appropriate.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 11:03 PM

the park slope mind-set is unreal. what a bunch of entitles whiney cry-babies. maybe park slope should just be walled off ala escape from new york and all the babies can be imprisoned there with their cry-baby parents. then we won't have to see any of that riff-raff in the proper world.

Posted by: guest at January 24, 2008 11:18 PM

You Americans are so puritanical. So weird.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 8:36 AM

Anyone who takes their children to a bar is a bad parent. How about calling ACS on them? Plenty of people do it for poor parents, so why not PS yuppies?

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 8:53 AM

Yea take your kids to a bar and drink in the afternoon FUCKING TRAILER TRASH LIVES IN PARK SLOPE. So much for sophisticated New York parents. LOSER.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 11:18 AM

There are so many places to take kids during the day in Park Slope. Places that welcome them. Removing Union Hall as an option doesn't mean there's no place for them to go anymore, please. Union Hall only opened what, a year ago. Wherever you went before that just go there again with the tots during the day.

I don't think it's bad parenting to bring a child to a bar; my parents' generation did it. Being around adults in an adult setting is important for socialization and being able to navigate the adult world later on. These lessons start early. Or they're supposed to start early. The problem with Park Slope parents is they bring kids into an adult setting and instead of training and teaching their kids how to behave in an adult setting, they turn the venue into a romper room kiddy play place. Which does nothing to teach their kids how to function as adults. I vividly remember as a child knowing to shut up and not run around screaming, when we went to restaurants. I was calm enough to attend the theater as early as age 4. You NEVER see that these days. Kids are total spazzes. My parents are always shocked at kids behavior now, and in retrospect even say my loony brothers are much better behaved than kids today. And that says a lot! If you knew my brothers as kids.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 12:14 PM

Good point, 12:14.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 4:38 PM

The problem is the parents who think its perfectly okay to bring their kids to a business to "run around" while the adults relax and socialize. The business becomes an impromptu playground and the employees become defacto babysitters.

I deal with that scenario everyday at a nursery. People bring their kids along and turn them loose so they can "run around". We have to keep an eye on the little darlings because the parents don't.

Waiting on customers is just part of the job--we also have to stock product, clean bathrooms, sweep sidewalks, take out trash, clean fish tanks, put orders together, answer the phone, tend acres of greenhouses and nursery stock...even when we're not busy saleswise, we are ALWAYS busy.

Every minute we have to spend keeping unsupervised kids from getting run over in the parking lot or cleaning up after a herd of them have torn through a greenhouse or dumped potting soil in the koi pond is time not spent waiting on PAYING customers. It's time not spent getting our chores done. It's bloody annoying.

It's no different in a bar. Just because the bar isn't full of customers, doesn't mean the employees have no work to do. When they're not waiting on customers, they also have chores to do. They have to get everything cleaned, stocked and prepped for the "busy" time of day.

If parents want their kids to get out and run around, they can take them to a park. Kids don't care if it's cold or snowing or raining as long as they can play.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 4:38 PM

If I owned a restaurant I'd fear a lawsuit because of the scenario 4:38 describes. It's so inappropriate.

The WORST is this: you're hosting a party for adults at night in your home, where there is drinking going on and it is not a party intended for kids. Then someone calls up and asks if they can bring their child or children. Not stated as a real question, but in a way that shows they feel fully entitled to bring their children. Then, and this is the fun part, when they arrive the parents join the party, drink and laugh and completely ignore what their children are doing, while you as the host chase after the kids the whole night trying to make sure they don't break things, hurt themselves or poke your cat's eyes out.

Plainly stated, it really sucks.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 4:58 PM

That buidling was for sale at one time. I looked at buying it. I came with the lot behind.

When I went to make a bid, the owner withdrew it from the market and I don't think that it has been for sale since.

Posted by: guest at January 25, 2008 11:28 PM

I like that building. I hope it stays just the way it is forever. Keep williamsburg smelly and industrial!

Posted by: guest at January 26, 2008 1:20 AM

There's nothing to save in that building. The nicest thing about corner buildings is the ground level storefront windows and doors IF they are original. The original storefront has been destroyed and bricked over. You know there's nothing original inside either. So what's the point in keeping it? I'm sure the owner is holding onto it as an asset for getting loans for other RE investments. That's all.

Posted by: guest at January 26, 2008 1:55 PM

No 1:55. It should remain just the way it is forever. It the right kind of building for the area.

Posted by: guest at January 26, 2008 5:37 PM

10:27, if you're still out there, go fuck yourself.

and the owner of union hall can go fuck him/herself too. this is fucking park slope brooklyn. they're not banning strollers b/c of fire hazards, they're banning b/c they think there bar won't seem cool if mommy's are drinking there. take that pretentious bullshit back to manhattan. this is brooklyn, if some mommies want to have a beer while talking to other mommies and holding their kids, so be it...

Posted by: guest at January 26, 2008 6:19 PM

Wow, scary glimpse into the mind of a Park Slope mom at 6:19 pm.

Bitter, angry, unhappy. Clearly.

Posted by: guest at January 27, 2008 1:03 PM