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January 8, 2008

Slurpees for the South Slope: 7-11 On the Way

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Take a Big Gulp, Park Slope: The largest chain store in the world is moving in. A 7-Eleven is coming to 5th Avenue between 13th and 14th streets, taking a storefront that used to house a 99-cent store. The 7-Eleven opening sorta seems emblematic of the divide between the types of retail on 5th Avenue north and south of 9th Street. South of 9th you still see a lot of distinctly un-yuppie mom-and-pops and big chains like Domino’s; north of 9th, a new boutique pitches its tent practically every week. It’ll definitely be interesting to see whether fancier retail starts heading farther south on 5th over the next few years or if the area below 9th is going to stay scrappy for a while. In the meantime, brain freeze! GMAP P*Shark DOB




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Awesome! I love the jumbo hot-dogs that are filled with pizza!

The What

Someday this war are going to ends.....

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:10 AM

If you go back ten or more years, there were far more retail vacancies along the northern stretch of 5th Ave than below 9th Street. So there was a vacuum that the boutiques could fill. 5th Ave from 9th to about the Prospect was a pretty solid retail stretch serving local working class families, as well as people from Red Hook, who would take the #77 bus up to do their shopping on 5th Avenue.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:18 AM

Bring on the Papa Johns!

Posted by: Emigre at January 8, 2008 10:20 AM

The first of the Bklyn Papa Johns is in Sunset Park, correct?

Considering the Dunkin' D's along 4th Ave, not sure why there would be any uproar about this...unless they run out of Mountain Dew.

Posted by: Action Jackson at January 8, 2008 10:23 AM

seben eleben. ii kibun.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:25 AM

Might be a chain - but 7'11s are individually owned and operated.

Wish it was a WAWA though

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:31 AM

Finally, a Citibank ATM near my apartment!!

Posted by: 16thStreeter at January 8, 2008 10:34 AM

Good. Now maybe the What can get a job.

Posted by: Johnny at January 8, 2008 10:45 AM

5th avenue is the best retail strip in brooklyn as far as i'm concerned.

it's great to have the scrappy stretch along with the northern stretch.

i really hope it stays scrappy for years to come.

that area of park slope is incredibly diverse and feels like "real" brooklyn.

i don't think we should be hoping to change that.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:55 AM

"Good. Now maybe the What can get a job."

Would you like a slurpee with that, Asshat!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 10:57 AM

We're approaching a recession, a fiscal crisis is predicted for New York City in the coming years, and Brooklyn is definitely starting to slowly edge towards grubbiness and violence again--I wouldn't be surprised if the march of the upscale stores stops until 2011.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:03 AM

violent crime was the lowest it's been in 45 years in 2007, 11:03.

you can make predictions all you'd like, but they don't actually seem to be based in fact.

i'm wondering how exactly you think brooklyn is starting to "edge towards grubbiness and violence again"

i'm very curious to hear your stats on that statment.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:08 AM

There was an expose showing that the NPYD cooks its books on violent crime. Murders, it's mostly demographic changes, but violent crimes are as healthy as ever.

Anyway, things have started to turn down for what ... 1 month? You can see it in peoples' faces... if you actually live around working people. What's going to happen if it lasts and things get worse?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:14 AM

Not that we-who-live-in-that-exact-neighborhood need another place to buy Red Bull and but it'll be pretty damn cool to be able to grab a slurpee when it gets all nasty, sticky hot.

Right on.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:18 AM

um....in a city of 8.25 million people, 34 murders in 2007 were committed against a "stranger"

cooked or not, those are some of the best odds i've seen in a while.

nyc is safer than disneyland at this point in time.

you can't believe everything you see on 20/20, 11:14.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:19 AM

Considering how many people I know who live in Park Slope who've been mugged at gunpoint, I doubt it's safer than Disneyland. So much violent crime gets underreported (or ignored all together) that the picture isn't totally clear.

Be a little more skeptical, unless it's in your interest to paint the rosiest picture possible.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:22 AM

oh what a waste of a piece of real estate. A one-story building? WTF? That could have been at least a 6 unit condo.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:26 AM

why did you mention park slope, 11:22?

ax to grind?

i'm sure there are about 20 other neighborhoods in brooklyn alone that had higher rates of muggings at gunpoint this year, so why exactly did you decide to mention park slope?

seems quite odd to me.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 11:30 AM

7-11's are often pretty clean, I can't remember exactly what the 99-c store looked like, but the 7-11 can't be worse. New windows, clean facade. There are worse things that could have gone in there.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:02 PM

hooray! maybe their coolers will work well enough so their milk won't come out in large clumps like it does at nearby grocerettes. that'd be great, and convenient!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:03 PM

open 24/7???

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:14 PM

someone was mugged the other evening on 8th ave and berkley -
walking home from train -
hand over mouth - wanted money - took an ipod.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:19 PM

someone was murdered last week in bed stuy.

and the week before.

and the week before that.

what was your point, 12:19?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:23 PM

I think they'll be open 7-11, but I'm just guessing.

Seriously, kind of a drag in one sense (the worst of corporate america), but kinda cool in the sense that it shows how rapidly 5th ave is changing down there. I don't think 7-11 franchises are given out before demographic studies are done, so they probably know it will succeed - 10 years ago maybe not.

It's better than a permanently closed metal shade or another .99 store. There are stll about twenty of those between 9th and 16th st.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:26 PM

11:14,

How about a link to this alleged "expose" on how NYPD fudges its statistics? Otherwise, I don't believe you.

I love how these types claim that NYPD covers up violent crime, only to fall silent when faced with the record-low number of murders. Are they implying that NYPD stores hundreds of bodies in warehouses in order to appear more effective in the public eye?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 12:57 PM

I'm always amazed that with all the 99 cent stores on that stretch of 5th Ave., we didn't see any 98 cent and 97 cent stores moving in to underprice them. I thought we lived in America!?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 1:00 PM

Once that 7-11 goes in, I'm going to hang out in front of it with all my disaffected teen pals.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 1:02 PM

"Are they implying that NYPD stores hundreds of bodies in warehouses in order to appear more effective in the public eye?"

Where do you think those 7-11 hotdogs come from?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 2:25 PM

Regarding crime, see April 2007 thread/report--it most closely matches the anecdotal evidence about Brooklyn:

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2007/06/murder_up_in_no.php

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 2:33 PM

love brownstoner, but it's not where i get my crime stats, 2:33.

here's an article a little more appropriate to what is being dicussed here. your article was from june...HARDLY an accurate count for the crime rate in nyc for 2007.

if you prefer facts over "anecdotal evidence" this article is for you:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/nyregion/31murder.html

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 2:39 PM

HELLO?? 2:39--the stats and figures in the Brownstoner thread are coming from the NYPD. See original article:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06172007/news/regionalnews/surge_in_slayings_shocks_brooklyn_regionalnews_brad_hamilton.htm

The precinct figures showed that "murder is up 34 percent in the north half of the borough and muggings and bank robberies plague its highest-income area." And this is from mid-2007. How is that not relevant to 2007???????

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:12 PM

because the article i attached was written on december 31st, 2007 with the ENTIRE YEAR'S STATS.

not just 6 months worth.

i guess murders were up a bit in june in certain sections of the city, but by the end of the year, it all averaged out, because there were FEWER murders in 2007 than since record keeping began.

you don't think a full year of stats is better than half a year???

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:22 PM

Murders were up 34% in Northern Brooklyn in the first half of 2007! That is huge. And the fact that murders in general averaged out for the whole city is irrelevant to someone who is mainly interested in Brooklyn.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:36 PM

Yikes!! From that same article:

"And the spike follows a similar rise in 2006, leading to a stunning 64 percent increase in two years among the 10 police precincts that Brooklyn North covers. "

and

"Meanwhile, the 84th Precinct, which covers well-to-do Brooklyn Heights and Boerum Hill and is part of Brooklyn North, had no homicides the last two years - but street crime is going through the roof.

Robbery is up 21 percent, assault climbed 12 percent and grand larceny inched up 4 percent so far this year."


Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:41 PM

There were 59 homicides in the command so far this year, up from 44 over the same period in 2006 and 36 in 2005. Five of the 10 precincts had increases this year.

The biggest percentage hike occurred in Bushwick's 83rd Precinct, where the number of murders tripled to six from two, and in Bed-Stuy's 81st Precinct, where they went up to nine from four.

In East New York, homicides climbed to 16 from 10 last year. And in Brownsville, slayings rose to 13 from eight in 2006 and just three in 2005. Four victims in those neighborhoods were killed in one night, June 7.


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you think those number are HUGE? in a city of 8.25 million? REALLY?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:43 PM

you sound like you're excited about the increase in crime, 3:12.

care to share with us what you're doing to help out the problem instead of bring it up in a thread on brownstoner which has ZERO to do with crime in brooklyn?????

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 3:45 PM

The point of those NYPD stats is that while crime was significantly DOWN in EVERY other NYC command, it was up 34% in Northern Brooklyn Command alone. I think that is pretty notable.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 4:19 PM

4:19:

this thread is about a new 7-11 in park slope.

both of which are in south brooklyn.

i see no correlation.

what i do see is someone trying to stir the pot for no apparent reason.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 4:22 PM

nope--crime was brought up 10 comments into the thread, and then the statement was made that crime was down in all NYC. Simply specifying it's not.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 4:52 PM

do they sell jalapeno poppers at 7-11?

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 4:56 PM

maybe save your "crime is up speech" for something that actually has anything to do with north brooklyn.

that may help your cause next time.

most of us look at the city as a whole in terms of crime, and we're all doing quite well. be thankful.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 5:01 PM

Oh thank Heaven. For 7-11.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 6:14 PM

South Slope is going down.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 6:27 PM

jalapeno poppers, mmmmmmm.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 6:33 PM

south 5th ave in the slope is depressing

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 7:47 PM

Ever been to Sidecar, 7:47? It's-a not so bad. It's a nice-a place. Aw, shaddupayourface!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 7:55 PM

I hope this 7-11 sells the good weed, like the ones in Suffolk County.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:03 PM

I love that SUFFCO Weed Microwave Burrito.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:12 PM

Fuck 7-11 I want a Quickie Mart!!!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:24 PM

No... even better, how about a Wawa???? They rule!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:29 PM

Does the 7-11 sell crack? Can I get a whore 24/7?

The biggest crime in Brooklyn is the disneylandification of Park Slope.

Murderous!

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:38 PM

jalapeno poppers rule! I wish I could get me some right now.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 8:58 PM

Who invented jalapeno poppers? They're like the best appetizer on the planet.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 9:04 PM

Jalapenio poppers, delish...delish...delish.

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Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 9:13 PM

Park Slope muggings are WAY UP and are being reported everywhere. See the Slope-loving OTBKB site for recent first-hand accounts by victims.

Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 9:32 PM

they caught the two muggers, 9:32. either last night or the night before. one of them was caught in prospect park.

they stole credit cards, so it's a felony and they will be put in the slammer for somewhere between 2-25 years. i'm guessing more like 2, but still.

park slope can rest a little easier tonight.

i understand the police did an amazing job.

www.dailyslope.com has the story.


Posted by: guest at January 8, 2008 9:37 PM

7:47 PM - so don't go there. see how easy that is?

Posted by: guest at January 9, 2008 5:14 PM

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