Just Sold in Brooklyn

If that picture is the W'burg house, it is very fugly! Who was the idiot who paid over a million dollars for that crap?

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:36 AM

wow, I just made a similar comment about the houses in the stuy that are foreclosing. how can people justify paying these prices? what are these people thinking? 1.5 million for that?!? with that home-depot-special door on the front? you've got to be kidding.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:47 AM

that BillBurg house makes those houses for sales in CG look like a steal!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:50 AM

perhaps the plan is to tear it down and build a sliver tower

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:54 AM

Suckers...

Canarise = 350K

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:03 PM

The 3rd place is prospect heights. Crown Hts. is on the other side of Franklin Ave.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:23 PM

Where does PH end and Crown Heights begin? Washington Ave. or Franklin?

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:26 PM

Washington.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:26 PM

i don't believe the 10 Orient price unless it's a development sale. houses on that block were listing in the 700K range a year ago.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:27 PM

I have lived in this neighborhood for many years. The brokers, not city planners are the ones who keep changing the neighborhood lines to fit their sales pitch. Franklin Ave has always been the dividing line between PH & CH. But if you let the brokers or new residents tell the story it will end at Washington.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:31 PM

the 2nd place is a nice deal & you can still find a few like that

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:39 PM

anyone remember the various asking prices for 10 Orient and how long it was on the market??

SELLERS in Williamsburg are offering to pay the transfer taxes these days! Oh how the market has changed!!!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 12:56 PM

One side of Wasington Ave versus the other is like night and day. Therefore, PH ends at Wash. The precinct says it all.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:01 PM

how would brokers benefit from making the boarder washington? I would think they would benefit more having it at Franklin, thereby pushing a more desireable neighborhood further out, raising prices.

the dividing line is washington. always has been. brokers and new arrivals try to push it out to franklin, or even as far as bedford or nostrand, but that's just lying.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:11 PM

WBer, love to hear if you find out more. I was scratching my head trying to figure out how they got 3000 sf out of that tiny house. Clear that the "duplexes" are crammed into attics and basements.
Personally, I'd take the blue house next door - put on a new stoop railing, fix the brick on the basement and yank out the AC unit from the facade, and you have a very attractive wood frame house.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:13 PM

Franklin Avenue is the Crown Heights/Prospect Heights border.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:17 PM

soooooooooooo ugly.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:20 PM

no washington is the border.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:22 PM

washington is definitely the border.

even my corcoran broker told me that.

and they have more reason to stretch it to franklin than everyone else.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:26 PM

Franklin is the border as far as I'm concerned, and I'm a Brooklyn native and lifelong resident. Who cares what your Corcoran broker thinks? I've been here a lot longer.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:36 PM

well you're stupid!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:41 PM

sounds like someone lives in btw washington and franklin and doesn't want to admit that they live in crown heights!! HAHAHA!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:51 PM

"sounds like someone lives in btw washington and franklin and doesn't want to admit that they live in crown heights!! HAHAHA!"

Wrong again. I own a house in Crown Heights, EAST of Franklin, in the historic district, and I couldn't be happier. Crown Heights is GREAT! I just don't like johnny-come-latelys telling me where the Crown Heights border lies.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 1:54 PM

yeah, it's great when joggers are gunned downed on eastern parkway.

i used to rent off nostrand, it's a dirty, noisy neighborhood lacking amenities. i had many racial remarks yelled at me by people hanging out on benches on eastern parkway when i walked from the Franklin 4/5 home at night. (i'm white)

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 2:01 PM

crown heights is a hellhole. crime has SURGED this year there. along with brownsville and bed stuy.

love prospect heights though.

i ain't walkin past washington anytime soon.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 2:03 PM

2:01..most people who are the victims of hate and discrimination can pick a racist out of a where's waldo portrait. I am white and have walked up and down Eastern Pkway for a few years now with no incident. I guess people like you are easily spotted.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 2:35 PM

Hey 1:26, me and my husband went to corcoran looking for a house in Crown Hts over the summer. We were told to stay below franklyn ave in our search. I bet it was the same broker you spoke to....lol. It's all about the benjamins baby!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 2:42 PM

from what i heard from a very successful broker buddy in williamsburg is that the only slow moving properties are in the further out areas - those are the ones that you see where the seller will pay the transfer taxes.

he told me that anything in prime burg - especially within 4-5 blocks of the L is selling well still.

you never know what the inside of the orient house looked like. i've seen houses that are blah inside that were good on the inside.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 2:49 PM

" i had many racial remarks yelled at me by people hanging out on benches on eastern parkway when i walked from the Franklin 4/5 home at night. (i'm white)"

I'm sure these weren't necessarly motivated by race, but by the fact that you are a jerk. Please take another walk there soon!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 3:19 PM

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that 10 Orient ave was a gut reno, include attic and basement (hence the two duplexes).

(you can see the pics here: http://ncane.com/4rl )

What seems weird to me (which is why the development theory might be right on) is that I seem to remember that the house had the air right for a garage on Metropolitan behind it.

The garage was listed on Corcoran too, and indicated that the air rights would be a part of the sale.

Maybe someone bought both?

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 3:32 PM

I love it when a black person says racist remarks to a white person its the white person who is the jerk.

haha

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 4:00 PM

Good point 4:00, I am a blkman and homeowner in Crown Hts. and I hate racist remarks coming from anyone.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 4:29 PM

the orient house does indeed look pretty good on the inside. nice place.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 4:39 PM

Checked out the floorplan for Orient House on Corcoran's website. The top floor of the duplex is a "loft" with one small window on the side (visible in the pic above) and a skylight.

Incidentally, props to Corcoran's marketing department - they've already updated the listing (even though it's only a sold property) to include a link to this post!!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 4:53 PM

"I love it when a black person says racist remarks to a white person its the white person who is the jerk."

2:01 is a jerk, period, which was most likely quite clear to the people who verbally assaulted him. I'm sure it had little to do with race. As other (white) posters have noted, they've walked up and down Eastern Parkway without incident. Meanwhile, 2:01 has had "many racial remarks" tossed at him/her. Why? Probably has a lot to do with 2:01. It IS "jerky" for a black person to hurl insults at a white person just because of their race. But I'm willing to bet that isn't the issue here.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 4:54 PM

WHAT!!!

so its alright to sling racist slurs at a black person b/c they're acting like a jerk.

i know a comidian who thinks so and no one likes him very much anymore.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 5:11 PM

"so its alright to sling racist slurs at a black person b/c they're acting like a jerk."

No, it's not alright. It's not right for anyone to use racial slurs for any reason. But 2:01 probably heard some of these not because he or she is white, but because he/she is a jerk, and the morons who yelled at him/her couldn't think of anything else to say and picked the most obvious.

And the word is spelled "comedian."

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 5:17 PM

10 Orient was listed for $1M

http://www.corcorangroup.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&listingid=904159

How did it sell for $1.47 in this market?????

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 5:27 PM

re: 10 Orient was listed for $1M

That was my point - I think the buyer must have gotten more than the house, because the house wasn't priced that high to begin with. And it wasn't selling as just a house, so something must have changed.

If property shark is showing two buildings, did the buyer buy both? That seems to be the only logical explanation.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 6:12 PM

Do you really think black people don't make comments to white people simply because they are white? What planet do you live on?

Anyone is capable of shouting a racial slur to no apparent reason, regardless of the color of their skin.

Get real people.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 7:20 PM

Don't let the comments of 2:01 become a germ that begins to spread. You 2 are on the same page with no reason to disagree about racial insults. But hate is a disease that has a subtle way of turning good people against each other. Tone down the rhetoric and celebrate your differences whether its your race, religion, or your opinion. Let 2:01 stand in a corner alone.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 7:23 PM

7:23..they can't tone it down because it is coming from a place that is living in their hearts. Black bigots and white bigots are always looking for a platform to demonstrate their ignorance. If we were talking about hot air ballons these morons would find away to make it racial.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 7:31 PM

Riding in a Hot Air Balloon is a WHITE RACIST recreational event that was designed by the MAN to make the BLACKMAN feel inferior by causing him to always have to look up at the wonders of the WHITEMAN causing irreversable psychological setbacks in the BLACKMANS children to get a decent education because of all the stress related illnesses that has seeped into the minds of the BLACKMAN by the creation of this machine. Oh yeah...you may see a Hot Air Balloon, but to my people it is a conspiracy of the whiteman to control our minds...The revolution will not be televised.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 7:46 PM

LOL...7:46...What the FUGH!!! That shit is hilarious.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 7:48 PM

you're all wrong. i was the orignal poster about being called racial slurs.

I was walking down the street minding my own business wearing a suit coming home from work.

if pointing out that reverse racism makes me a jerk, then i am a jerk

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:06 PM

to elaborate i was told:

"what you doing here white boy? this is OUR hood"

i won't even start with what was said to my girlfriend on a daily basis.

disgusting. no respect for anyone, and that's shown in how many beautiful houses are run down and how much garbage is strewn throughout the streets.

If I was racist, do you think i would move into a rental on St John's and Nostrand? that just makes no sense.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:10 PM

Was all the trailers rented out 8:10

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:17 PM

Do your girlfriend have one of those sistah booty's 8:10? Because I was told that I have one. At first, I thought they were taunting me with insults about my fat ass. But I later realized that they were giving me compliments for being a whitegirl with a little junk in the trunk. It just takes a little time.....lol.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:22 PM

8:17..making a reference to him being trailer trash is equally stupid and ignorant.

But, I would like to know if his girl got back!!

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:28 PM

What time do you and your girl come out the station? I wanna be the judge of that.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:29 PM

I give him six months, he is so paronoid. He is injecting fear into his girlfriend about blackmen because of the sterio-types he was taught by the generation before him. You are only gonna make her curious. And if she really does have a sistah booty, than the work is already done....lol. Didn't your mama warn you about moving to the hood?

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:42 PM

Property within 4-5 blocks of the L are still selling, but not at last years prices. The house across the street from me on Conselyea between Union and Lorimer (1/2 block from the L) just sold for $779K and its a 2 family 2500 sq footer thats 25' wide on a deep lot. Last year it would have been over a million. There are 2 others here still listed over a million that have been sitting there a long time now and will continue to sit. Orient must have been 2 lots or like someone said the house and an additional garage with rights.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 8:47 PM

i feel as though if he were racist, he would not have moved to crown heights.

it's not exactly the most diverse neighborhood. lol

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 9:53 PM

the only thing worse than actual racism is telling a victim that they deserved it.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 10:39 PM

8:47 - selling well near beford L, not lorimer. east of the BQE is not doing as well as prime williamsburg.

i think that because of this, if i was buying, i would look hard around lorimer area for deals. especially if you have kids, because PS132 is a very good school.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:33 PM

8:47 - selling well near beford L, not lorimer. east of the BQE is not doing as well as prime williamsburg.

i think that because of this, if i was buying, i would look hard around lorimer area for deals. especially if you have kids, because PS132 is a very good school.

Posted by: guest at January 30, 2008 11:33 PM

what the heck is "reverse racism" - you've been indoctrinated.

Racism is racism. It exists in every cultural group. Its a big problem when one group has more power that the group it is being racist to.

Anyone white person in NYC who hasn't had a racist slur chucked at them is either (1) deaf; (2) too closeted to understand the language of the insult or (3) too scared to visit any neighborhood outside Manhattan/north of 96th st.

Honestly, do you idiots denying the racism even live in this city or do you just live on this blog?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 9:12 AM

since when has it become acceptable for a man to say sexually explicit things to a woman on the street just because he is black and in a black neighborhood?

disgusting.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 10:00 AM

am i the only one who prefers the area around the lorimer L better than bedford?

i feel it's quieter, more neighborhoody, but not too far from the amenities of the bedford L disneyland scene.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 10:05 AM

10am - it depends what sub-culture you're in. In some, its always been acceptable.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 10:55 AM

the stone age?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 11:31 AM

so if i'm white i can't sexually harass a black woman on the street?

what happened to equality!?!?!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:01 PM

"Do your girlfriend have one of those sistah booty's 8:10? Because I was told that I have one. At first, I thought they were taunting me with insults about my fat ass."

That's right. We brothers LIKE your ass. Really! Nothing like a white chick with a sister booty.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:41 PM

Stone age..Sub-culture...black neighborhood,

Give me a break. I am a woman who works around some of the most expensive constuction projects in Manahattan. And I can tell you, I see very little blackfaces, but I hear some of the most dispicable comments made to woman as they walk past. Don't try to limit that behavior to a crowd of young men standing outside a train station. You and your girlfriend will get the same treatment in many parts of this city. It just seems more magnified because of your prejudice towards these men.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:48 PM

or a higher concentration of them where you live.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 6:40 PM

5.48 - you seem clueless. As someone on both sides of the fence I can tell you that one subculture is way more "forthright" in what is acceptable in approaching women (in the conversational sense) than the other. You really need to give up on the idea that every group acts the same, they dont', thats why we have the concept of cultures.

If you think your experience in Chinatown is the same as in Staten island and east New York then you're a delusional self-satisifed twerp.

Posted by: guest at February 1, 2008 9:18 AM