Condos of the Day: 134 St. Marks Place

Once AY is built, those will be $0/sq foot

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 12:46 PM

Is anyone ever going to live in this new construction? This building, Crest and Novo are all still empty...

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 12:50 PM

So I said it the other day, and here is the everything is insanely overpriced in Carroll Gardnes article showing up on today's curbed.com....next stop Gawker!

Carroll Gardens IS OVER!!!! Now can we all please stop making fun of Park Slope?

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/01/31/development_du_jour_116_3rd_place.php

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 12:51 PM

um, the market is down. do believe that all finished buildings will sell its units if priced correctly.

corcoran always overprices even in good markets, so sure that the pricing needs to fall in to line.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:03 PM

I can't help but think if these condos were in Carroll Gardens, Corcoran could get at least 1.7 to 3.5 a piece for these. I mean, c'mon, its Carroll Gardens!

Fuhgeddaboudit!

Any you mooks want a cannoli?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:05 PM

ya got a chocolate covered cannoli? I don't like the plain ones. Make sure there's extra filling too, please.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:07 PM

this is way overpriced. lets wait a few more months and see how much they will reduce these by. i'm betting 30%, what about you guys?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:08 PM

If something isn't selling, there's only ONE reason--THE PRICE. Serious sellers need to realize that. Don't waste time with staging or primping. If you want to sell, and your place isn't selling, LOWER THE PRICE. Economics 101.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:09 PM

Honestly, I think the problem isn't the prices. The price looks perfectly reasonable, if not slightly high. You are WAY off with the 30%, 1:08. Way off.

I think they need to pretty up the ground floor level, get that graffiti off that neighboring restaurant and put two big planters on either side of the entrance with two evergreen shrubs.

It's just not welcoming when you walk by it.

Simple things like that will go a long way, becasue really...the location doesn't get much better. This is right along the BEST part of 5th avenue, in my opinion.

And super close to trains.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:11 PM

I for one am SHOCKED that these have not flown off the shelves like meth-addled pigeons.

I mean, look at those spacious balconies! You could store a slice of pie on them!

Mmmmmm.... pie....

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:11 PM

Scarano condos come with some seriously bad karma.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:15 PM

Stuff that pie in a chocolate covered cannoli, 1:11 and you've got yourself a SALE!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:15 PM

1:11= broker

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:19 PM

Brownstoner desperate for news, desparate for news. No news no hits no hits no BLOG.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:19 PM

I'm not a broker, actually.

Shut your pie hole, 1:19.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:19 PM

Check out this place. Looks like a very reasonable offer. Apt looks sweet and it's super close to BAM Cultural District. Looks like a winner. What do you think?

http://tinyurl.com/34tes5

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:22 PM

hmmm, absolutely generic apartments with cookie cutter layouts - I can't believe they're not selling!

I'm THRILLED they're not selling frankly. Maybe these losebag developers will learn something. Do something original and smart and your properties will always sell. Design to eek out every last possible dollar, you're vulnerable to downswings. There are only so many suckers in one borough...

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:24 PM

1:22....the cross street of that apartment you just linked is flatbush and atlantic avenues...probably the loudest, busiest and ugliest intersections in the free world.

otherwise, it's great.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:26 PM

Maybe they're not selling because they're overpriced and the building's godawful ugly. What exactly is the look the architect is going for here--1960s elementary school meets futuristic prison?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:30 PM

I thought the Developers Group had the listings. Last time i saw the building through them.
Another exclusive goes out from the Developers Group?
Any one knows what's going on with this firm?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:41 PM

"pricing is similar to what units at the Crest and Novo were asking"

Not true. Units were available at the Crest for much less and both Crest and Novo have amenities.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:45 PM

Novo and Crest are also much uglier and are on 4th Avenue, whereas this is almost right on 5th...

The location is far superior.

Novo and Crest are HIDEOUS.

This is just bland.

Not offensive like Novo and Crest.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:49 PM

are there any good schools for this location?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:50 PM

Agree, Novo and Crest were cheaper, the early releases were in $600-$650/sq ft range. The remaining units are those on the top floors so are more expensive.

Although Novo and Crest have amenities, the common charges are higher too.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:51 PM

I'm no fan of Novo or Crest, but at least the balconies on those buildings look usable. These are a joke. And the building looks like one of the lesser Transformers.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:52 PM

I dunno, Crest and Novo are close to JJ Byrne Park, Blue Ribbon, Stone Park Cafe, Whole Foods (if it ever gets built), and is zoned for PS321.

This is closer to more trains, Target and BAM.

I can go either way in terms of location preference.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:55 PM

I walk by this all the time and its not close to being done. Theres shit everywhere and I havent seen work beeing done there in months.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:57 PM

From the pictures on Corcoran, natural light appears to be lacking in a serious way.

These listings used to belong to Brooklyn Properties right?

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 1:57 PM

The "studio duplexes" are pretty dumb, especially at $750k.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:00 PM

This is most definitely NOT along one of the best parts of 5th. The first few blocks after Atlantic are actually still rather shabby.

But you are close to the trains. And nice and close to whatever happens at AY.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:00 PM

Actually in terms of retail, the shops along this part of 5th Avenue are the best.

10 new shops have opened up in and around 5th and Bergen in the past year with a couple more on the way, it seems.

I think this stretch of 5th has become most vibrant.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:02 PM

I couldn't get the floorplans to load and the pictures are terrible. Some of them don't show anything of the unit at all--like the one of the table against the wall--what the hell is that? No photo of the kitchen, either. Bad listings.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:08 PM

$995,000 for 2BR? It is indeed deeply mysterious why these aren't selling.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:16 PM

1:52;
It's not even a Transformer, this is Go-Bot the Condo. The architecture can be described as "riotproof" or "Stalinistic" at best.

Good work on the balcony boys, you're ITT degree is paying for itself.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:22 PM

It's almost like they don't want it to sell.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:23 PM

What 1:09PM said....

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:51 PM

Holy shit! 1:22, aka David Rogers from Prudential Elliman, has been posting about that State Street apartment for MONTHS now, on pretty much every NYC real estate blog that exists, including Curbed. It's pathetic, really. And a true sign of the desperation that many realtors must be feeling.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 2:55 PM

I refuse to scroll up 2:51.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:00 PM

i live around the corner and would LOVE to buy one at these prices. however, the building is ugly, ugly, ugly. the units have the "sneaky" scarano tricks like: hey, there's an unfinished attic up there so your studio could actually be a 1-bedroom! the developer/arch even left places for you to punch out your own windows!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:09 PM

Forget Transformers - looks like a Tetris board to me.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:39 PM

I lived on this block for nearly 5 years, moving away just a few months ago. This is a great block, great neighbors, and I agree that it is the best part of 5th. Went to an open house last fall: these are dark and ugly and overpriced. The balconies are a joke. And who needs a studio duplex?! Unfriendly living spaces will keep these from selling unless the price drops significantly.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:40 PM

499k should get the job done.

Just lower them already and GET THEM SOLD!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:42 PM

I say 400k

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 3:52 PM

I tapped "The What" in the studio duplex Tempur-Pedic at the open house

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 4:11 PM

The "Crazy Man Lady" lives next door, if that will entice.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 4:16 PM

Hey! This is my block! St. Marks bet. 4th and 5th.

I walk by this building all the time and in one word, it looks vomiterrific. (the inclusion of the word terrific in there is purely accidental)

It really sticks out in an ugly way amongst the really pretty brown homes on either side. It looks like a set from Blade Runner and not in a good way.

I haven't been inside but the ground floor is totally unbuilt yet and still has a lot of unkempt plastic in it. Not very inviting in the least. And it doesn't look like anyone's working on it either.

On the positive side:

1) the commenter who said this is a good stretch of 5th isn't lying. Peperoncino, La Canaille, Sip, Convivium Osteria, Alchemy, Flight 001, Get Reel Video, Total Wine Bar, Chocolate Room, Luscious, Blue Sky Bakery, Black Sheep Pub, some Yoga joint, are all in just a 1-block radius. Miriam & Gorilla Coffee is only 2 blocks away. I love this block.

2) If you have a car, it's one of those blocks that's alternate side parking just 2 days out of the week and not 4.

3) My dog LOVES to poop in front of this building so it has that going for it.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 4:17 PM

#3 has me sold, 4:17

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 4:22 PM

i live next to this place too. i checked out the sign on the door from corcoran - two units are in contract according to listing sheet

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 4:57 PM

4:17...

you're lucky to live near here...i think this stretch of 5th is actually the best couple blocks of shopping in all of brooklyn.

don't forget OKO!! LOVE that place!!

heard they are opening a pinkberry up on 7th and berkeley though, but i prefer OKO!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:12 PM

Why are there hardly any 3 bedroom apartments in these new developements? With all the little brats running around Park slope you would think these developers would have bigger apartments.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:13 PM

OKO is DIGUSTING. Damn, you people are so freakin' easy. My sister dragged me there, promising a really yummy treat. I gagged as soon as that repulsive white cream hit my tongue. Give me a break! Easy, peasy you people!

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:17 PM

^ some people dont like beer too

i dont know what that has to do with anything tho

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:24 PM

yea repulsive white stuff in my mouth makes me gag too.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:25 PM

quote from curbed.com from today:

3) Park Slope: Everyone's favorite Brooklyn neighborhood is getting a new yoga studio and a new shoe store.

Posted by: guest at January 31, 2008 5:28 PM

I'm a little surprised that nobody knows the real story on 134 St. Marks Place. Apparently, the project was never completed and they're being sued by the restaurant next door because they built part of the building on their land. They can't proceed with construction so they can't sell the units (though some had already been sold and those people are royally f*cked).

Posted by: guest at February 1, 2008 11:26 AM

Sca.
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i.e.,

Piece.
Of.
Sh!t.

Posted by: guest at February 1, 2008 2:34 PM