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December 26, 2007
Wednesday Links

Columbia Street View. Photo by Sail Brooklyn.
Rash of Shootings, Some Fatal, From Brooklyn to the Bronx [NY Times]
Web Entrepreneurs Hit a Snag in Miami’s Condo Market [NY Times]
New NYC Transit Squad Tries to Erase Subway Graffiti [NY Daily News]
Groups Receiving FCR Aid Want More Pro-AY Articles [AY Report]
Dumbo Firm Offers Free Lesson Plans for Teachers [NY Sun]
Mortgage Kool-Aid Tastes Like Sour Grapes [Matrix]
Park Slope Strollers Line Up for the Gap [Gothamist]
2007 Streetsies Winners [Streetsblog]
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When are the residents of Brooklyn North (Bed Stuy, Crown Hgts, Clinton Hill etc...) going to stop trying to protect their home values and instead stand up and demand an end to the escalating violence in their neighborhoods.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 10:24 AM
"The teenagers... were each shot in the head in front of a brownstone in the Fort Greene section..."
Sounds surreal.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 11:11 AM
interesting to me how the amount of attention the NYT pays to these shootings and the actual number of shootings are so inversely related.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at December 26, 2007 12:46 PM
interesting to me how the amount of attention the NYT pays to these shootings and the actual number of shootings are so inversely related.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at December 26, 2007 12:47 PM
"trying to protect their home values" and "stand up and demand an end to the escalating violence" are one in the same. If they're not standing up, they're not trying to protect. Talk is cheap. However, standing up can cost you your life.
Do you live in one of these communities, 10:24? If so, what are you doing?
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 1:12 PM
The NYT's erroneous Fort Greene reference is DIRECTLY proportional to their attention to these shootings.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 1:23 PM
Saying things like
"the amount of attention the NYT pays to these shootings and the actual number of shootings are so inversely related"
or the standard response:
"it could happen anywhere"
are examples of trying to protect home values;
No I dont live in Bed-Stuy anymore - why... b/c it was too dangerous and all people wanted to do was make excuses for the animals who make the streets dangerous - or ignore it and pretend it wasnt any worse then anywhere else.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 1:46 PM
Fort Greene, Clinton Hill--same thing, 1:23. Houses cost the same in both.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 1:58 PM
i call the cops regularly. I didn't move away.
Not surprised if the shooting has to do with the sleezy "hotel" on the corner.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 2:53 PM
by "inversely related" i mean that shootings of this type did not get nearly as much press in the Times 25 years ago when they happened with much more regularity.
and the comment re silence/tolerance/complacency/??? in the interest of preserving home values is misplaced, and frankly, completely out of touch.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at December 26, 2007 3:06 PM
Brooklynlove you're really annoying. I doubt you're in a position to accurately describe NY Times crime coverage of 25 years ago.
It is what it is. You can't gloss it over or downplay it.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 4:24 PM
"and the comment re silence/tolerance/complacency/??? in the interest of preserving home values is misplaced, and frankly, completely out of touch."
Huh? It's the most common thing in the world. Done for ages. Why would Brooklyn be exempt?
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 4:50 PM
"Brooklynlove you're really annoying. I doubt you're in a position to accurately describe NY Times crime coverage of 25 years ago."
reading plus memory plus living here then = position to accurately describe. i'd probably be less annoying if you didn't take the time to post foolish responses.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at December 26, 2007 6:07 PM
I'm with 4:50. As an owner, you would want to have every interest to improve your property value. Yeah, you'd want to see an end to worldwide violence but the fight would start in your own backyard.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 7:28 PM
"Fort Greene, Clinton Hill--same thing, 1:23. Houses cost the same in both."
No, you're absolutely wrong about prices (slightly wrong) and location (read brown street signs).
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 7:35 PM
Read this article:
http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_n52/idn2007.12.25.19.12.24.html
The shooting happened in Bed Stuy, right near the Clinton Hill border. That block of Lefferts is notoriously sketchy, and is just down the block from some projects. Yes there are sketchy blocks in a lot of neighborhoods, but I think this is more about the tragedy of young black men killing each other than it is about real estate.
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 10:17 PM
10:17 - i echo your sentiment, but i think it good that a forum like this is bringing newfound attention to such a sad occurence. although the motivation for the attention may not be ideal, i think that the outcome could be - a continued curtailment of violence of crime.
Posted by: BrooklynLove at December 26, 2007 10:39 PM
'down the block from some projects"??? isn't every block in NYC?
Posted by: guest at December 26, 2007 10:44 PM
"down the block from some projects"??? isn't every block in NYC?"
Nope, not really.
Posted by: guest at December 27, 2007 1:22 AM
It is not down the block from any projects. It was two houses West of Classon, so it was in Clinton Hill. Rumor is it might have been gang related, we'll see. Pretty shocking and horrible.
Posted by: guest at December 27, 2007 3:24 PM

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