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November 7, 2007
Prices Too Lofty on Warren Street?
It’s looking like a Cobble Hill condo’s having a tough time finding takers. We got word from the fine folks at StreetEasy that Two Trees had been yanked as the exclusive brokers for 335 Warren (aka the Warren Lofts)—a job they’d been on since late spring—and that Brown Harris Stevens has started marketing the Scarano-designed building just off Smith Street. The eight units, which range from 1,000 to 2,500 square feet, are running between $585,000 and $975,000—prices that don’t seem too far-fetched for this neck of the woods (though they’re pretty near the Gowanus Houses). We’re hearing buzz that sub-optimal layouts may be to blame for the lackluster sales here. Can anyone corroborate?
335 Warren Listings [StreetEasy] GMAP
335 Warren Listing [Brown Harris Stevens]
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We personally saw two of the units. What a waste of space! A sleep loft in a unit in the 6's? It just seems like these new developments divide and subdivide their spaces into little rat-cubby-holes that look great on floorplans, but in real life feel really narrow and constricting. We felt the same thing at 110 Livingston last year - great space, but lots of walls.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:00 AM
hmm
ugly block
ugly building
poor layout
stone's throw from the projects
across the street from a school
i just dont understand why these didn't fly off the shelves!
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:06 AM
What's next door? (If my squinting eyes can make it out it is a center for children and families.) Is that some kind of recreational space on the roof? Just wondering.
Posted by: Carol Gardens at November 7, 2007 11:06 AM
513/SF just off Smith steps from subway. If this is my price range, what is a better alternative? The Crest in PS? Help me understand, please.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:11 AM
First marketed by Aguayom then Two Trees for short time...
Several issues - Scarano design with the mezzanine storage space (which probably can be ripped out for some usual space...and who knows if still DOB issue with final approvals.
Steps to mezzanine space are very steep - not too appealing to my age group.
Also - take down the plywood on ground level and remove sign about guard dogs- major turnoff.
Why are lower levels not offered for sale?
On other hand - steps to subway entrance -
If you think too close to projects - then good section of Smith St is too close to projects for you - so write off most of Cobble Hill since same subway station.
Great ceiling ht. Many with outdoor spaces and looks very well constructed.
Posted by: Petebklyn at November 7, 2007 11:17 AM
11:11 - look in WT / Kensington
much better bang for the buck
and no projects
add 10 - 15 minutes to your commute
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:18 AM
oops, sorry - The lower level units do seem to be listed now. But were not when with Aguayo and 2Trees.
Posted by: Petebklyn at November 7, 2007 11:22 AM
Isn't this Boerum Hill?
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:29 AM
i love this new trend where bing so close to the projects is no longer considered a negative
what nonsense
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 11:44 AM
Maybe the problem is that these agents don't even know where it is! This is definitely Boerum Hill.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 12:12 PM
aka Crack City
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 12:14 PM
The listings both say Boerum Hill.
Posted by: Carol Gardens at November 7, 2007 12:33 PM
This is a simple issue of SHIT layouts. The location is fine - not a fabulous block, but that would be easily overlooked if the developers weren't ONCE again trumping quality with greed by creating these awful narrow living rooms and then imagining they are fooling people with their "open lay outs" in which the pathetic little kitchen is open to the hideously dimensioned shoe box living room. I am SO SICK of it. Where oh where oh where-o is there a developer with a bit of class?
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 12:41 PM
I misposted a few days ago about another development on Warren, but this is the one O meant to talk about. That block is scary. One of those weird India-like phenomenon where you're walking along happily on Smith, make a right and all of a sudden you're hugging your handbag. My daughter went to a daycare on that block and when the time changed and it was dark when I picked her up, I used to pretty much run back and forth to the F train. And no, I'm not sheltered. Just smart. Not a nice block at all.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 12:56 PM
12:41 you are correct. It also reminds of those those new "14 Townhouses" or whatever. Over priced shoe boxes.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 1:00 PM
what a dump
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 1:43 PM
$975,000 for what appears to be a studio?
Oh yeah, sign me up!
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 1:48 PM
The apartments are overpriced for the neighborhood (Boerum Hill), and this specific location. The other factor is the design and layout which seems geared towards singletons or DINKS as opposed to a couple with child(ren) or planning on having a set. Its difficult to imagine wanting to breed in these boxes.
Posted by: crouchback 2 at November 7, 2007 2:46 PM
The apartments are overpriced for the neighborhood (Boerum Hill), and this specific location. The other factor is the design and layout which seems geared towards singletons or DINKS as opposed to a couple with child(ren) or planning on having a set. Its difficult to imagine wanting to breed in these boxes.
Posted by: crouchback 2 at November 7, 2007 2:49 PM
I think the people that write in criticizing the condos are just frustrated renters that can't afford to purchase anything anyway. I've seen the condos and they're the best I've seen - size & layout. Remember, this is city living and its not an easy task to combine space with design. These condos make the best of both. As far as the price goes, this is the going price.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 6:34 PM
Nice try, that last comment is either BHS or the developer. FYI, there is almost the same development on State Street at the corner of Bond, much better location, much lower prices. Three brokers no sales????? Sounds like something isn't adding up.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 6:42 PM
Ha ha ha...ha ha ha, 6:34. You crack me up.
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 8:47 PM
Yeah, 6:34, there is no way you are a disinterested party. Anyway, what is up with the sleeping loft? I can't quite tell from the picture, but is that a full height bedroom up there? Or do you have to hunch if you are tall?
Posted by: Carol Gardens at November 7, 2007 11:13 PM
I wasn't going to post but I was LMAO when I saw the building type listed as "Brownstone". Very wishful marketing.
Sandy
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 1:29 AM
Hideous exterior, extremely poor layouts, subprime location, ridiculous prices.
It's gonna sit on the market, rot for a while and eventually go rental.
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 1:45 AM
To the benighted commenter equating Boerum Hill with "Crack City:"
Take that 1993 calendar off your wall, and put away your Richard Price novel/Spike Lee movie of the same vintage.
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 2:19 AM
All you f***ing people are such ass holes!!! Don't you dare criticize my uncle's building! And to you who wrote for him to take down the attack dog sign, it's none of your damn buisness!As a matter of a fact, I'll make him buy attack dogs, and they'll chew your ass up!And his layouts are shit?!Please! Whoever wrote that is a peice of shit!!!!!So don't anyone DARE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY UNCLE'S BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!Go ahead, write back I'm looking foward to it, I want to see what you have to say...
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 5:12 PM
MY UNCLE IS GREEDY???Please! Just get a F*CKING LIFE!!!!!!!!!!IT'S JUST A SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF SHIT LAYOUTS???TO WHOEVER WHO WROTE THAT, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 5:17 PM
OH WHERE, OH WHERE DOES THAT ASSHOLE WITH THE SHIT LAYOUTS LIVE? A RAT-INFESTED PROJECT APARTMENT, OR A PIECE OF SHIT PLACE?YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET A PLACE HALF AS NICE AS MY UNCLE'S BUILDING!!!
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 5:21 PM
hmm
ugly person
ugly face I bet!
just leave my uncle and his building ALONE!!!
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 5:26 PM
i went to the open house and understood why the units weren't selling. although the price is probably reasonable for the amount of square footage, it is very hard to use the square footage efficiently. the living room and bedroom are very small (no dining space unless you count the breakfast bar) and the loft space is not very usable. you have to climb a very steep ladder to get to the loft space so even though the laundry room is up there - it would be very difficult to climb the ladder with my laundry. same with the outdoor spaces, great terraces, but if i can only get to it by climbing a steep ladder (or even two in the top units), i doubt i can enjoy a drink up there or have a grill (which is what i would want to use a terrace for). to be fair, the developer used good quality floors and appliances (GE Profile I think) and the high ceilings are great, but the layout is just not functional for me.
Posted by: hk4bk at November 9, 2007 4:07 PM
we toured the entire building. Many of the previous posters have adequately listed the pros and cons. This is the sort of building that demands your tour. Are the stairs too steep for you? Is the space configuration too awkward? Is the location satisfactory or dicey? Are the units overpriced. We came to our own conclusions and did not make an offer, but if the prices were dropped a hundred and fifty thou, we might reconsider.
The UWS Farmboyz
Posted by: guest at November 30, 2007 10:49 PM
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