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November 9, 2007
Brooklyn Flea Is Coming
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and I say it again:
from wall street broker to media tycoon to flea market organize in less than a year
Posted by: guest at November 6, 2007 11:11 AM
As one of the vendors who attended and enjoyed Salvage Fest and occasionally did the 26th street flea market in Manhattan, we hope it is Vendor Friendly. That includes, drive in and drive out unloading and loading and reasonable vendor fees for the volume. The reality is your best vendors are probably not local since the NY rents are so high. At 26th street, there was a vendor who came in from Watertown every weekend. You should contract with one person who can do local moving at affordable rates so larger items can be sold. We hope this is a great venue and would love to come down a few times a season. Fred & Camille from Silver Fox Architectural Salvage, Albany NY
Posted by: guest at November 7, 2007 9:44 AM
Why at Bishop Loughlin? Mr. Brownstoner should rent from PS 11 or PS 20 – the funds would then go to the neighborhood’s PUBLIC schools, not the catholic church. This is a large issue for the struggling PUBLIC schools in our community. Manhattan schools that rent to flea markets have benefited greatly, in turn greatly helping the community as a whole.
Posted by: guest at November 8, 2007 10:18 AM
As we explained to 10:18 when he contacted us directly yesterday...The first thing we did was look into using the larger lot at PS 11, but it's controlled by the city and we didn't want to sit around waiting for months for city bureaucracy or be subject to the winds of administration change. Secondly, the BL lot is BY FAR the best location in the area, both in terms of size and location atop the hill on Lafayette. The commenter tries to spin this like we're setting up shop in the courtyard at Packer. BL is a 100% minority school that can't even afford to repair its own playground. The money it derives from this event will go a long way towards helping the school and its students, almost all of whom come from poor and working class homes. Using the biggest and best location in the neighborhood will, hopefully, enable us to create an event that attracts people from all over the city, providing a big economic stimulus to the neighborhood. If this is successful, there's no reason it couldn't expand to neighboring lots like the ones at PS 11 and PS 20. Likewise, doing this flea market at BL does not preclude us from doing other events, like Salvage Fest, at other locations.
Posted by: brownstoner at November 9, 2007 10:59 AM
The public schools have one gazillion dollars and a host of celebrity supporters like Caroline Kennedy. The Catholic schools have a ton of dedication to values-centered education for city kids and...a frayed shoestring. The money from this little project would buy a few inches of red tape for some educrats at the Board of Ed, versus a life-giving infusion for Loughlin. And every child educated there or at any other Catholic school represents a seat freed up in our crowded public schools--one still subsidized by the Catholic schoolkids' parents, who pay tuition PLUS taxes. So I wouldn't worry about our "struggling" public schools getting stiffed by a few flea market vendors, darlin'; they are "struggling" on a per-pupil expenditure that the Catholic schools would die for, and not because of any lack of "community support."
Posted by: Brenda from Flatbush at November 9, 2007 11:11 AM
This is off topic, but the problem with NYC public schools is not one of funding. The school system itself is extremely well funded. The schools suck for a multitude of other reasons totally unrelated cash flow.
However, schools like BL offer an alternative to working class and middle class citizens that would like their children to have an education not offered in the public schools. BL or the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn has no where near the budget of the NYC Public schools - so contrary to 10:18's statements, they are more in needed of funding than PS 11 or PS 20.
Say what you want about Catholics, but for centuries the Catholic church has taken it upon itself to provide quality education to working and middle class families.
- Clintonhillhoya (as the name sugests, I am clearly biased by a strong Jesuit tradition in education)
Posted by: guest at November 9, 2007 11:47 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you "Brenda from Flatbush"... I couldn't agree more!
My son attended Catholic school from kindergarten through high school, and I can't say enough for the value, and solid education that Catholic school provide...
and mainly for poor and working class families.
Posted by: bren at November 9, 2007 12:23 PM
Ditto--my parents couldn't afford the expensive private schools and the public schools in my Queens neighborhood sucked. They could only afford the local Catholic school, and it was just fine. There were lots of non-Catholic kids in the school, all there for the same reason. They all got to hang out in the library or rec room during the 1 religious class we had per week. This was in the 1980s.
Catholic school has ALWAYS been the inexpensive alternative to out-of-reach private schools when public school just doesn't cut it.
Posted by: guest at November 9, 2007 1:08 PM
Wow, there's really no reason for this to be a Catholic School vs. Public School issue. I'm just glad BrooklynFlea is in my neighborhood.
A note about the events at local public schools: if an event is under the auspices of the PTA, the money completely bypasses the city's bureaucracy and can be spent how the PTA sees fit. The money from SalvageFest and other PS11 events went directly towards our in school enrichment programs and after school programs.
Amy
Posted by: guest at November 9, 2007 3:41 PM
ART!!!
Posted by: loftninja at November 9, 2007 3:58 PM
Actually, Amy, it wasn't a "debate" about the merits of public v. private school. It was in response to someone questioning WHY the flea market would support a Catholic school versus a public one in its quest for space. And that is not the issue here. So I think Mr. Brownstoner's clarification and the ensuing replies are relevant.
Posted by: guest at November 9, 2007 4:20 PM
A REAL flea market in Brooklyn?!. 26th Street is sorely missed. This is a brilliant idea. The one in Park Slope just doesn't cut it. If I got to 26th St at dawn, I always found treasures. The only disappointment is that April is a long way away.
Posted by: guest at November 10, 2007 9:14 PM
when is it opening? address? link to article is not working.
Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 9:54 AM


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