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November 27, 2007

Klitgord's Climax: 1,000 Vertical Feet

klitgordtower1107.jpg
The 110 Livingston blog picked up on a rendering that surfaced on Wired NY over the holiday weekend of a stunningly tall addition to Klitgord Auditorium planned by City Tech, which owns the land, and Forest City Ratner, which is coming up with the dough for the project. As The Brooklyn Eagle reported several weeks ago, the plan is to build 600 apartments as well as 300,000 square feet of academic office space on the site. The folks at Wired NY count upwards of 65 stories and estimate that, with the spire, the building could top 1,000 feet. Yowza!
Renzo Piano’s 1000-foot Downtown Brooklyn Tower [110 Livingston] GMAP
Renzo's Plans for 1,000 Foot Tower [Wired NY]
Downtown Projects, Taken Together,Would Equal a 474-Story Building [Brooklyn Eagle]




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Gorgeous. Big, but gorgeous. Despite its size, it seems to fit in with the surrounding area.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:50 AM

That would for once and all end the W'burgh bank building as tallest in boro. Finally. At last. By a big margin.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:55 AM

Usually 10 feet per building story is a sufficient guestimate as to building height. I would think that this place might top off at 800 feet. Still wayyyyyy too tall.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:56 AM

It's the Chicago-ization of New York.
U. Designer

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:57 AM

that would be nearly double the height of wsb/one hanson! also much taller than anything to be included at atlantic yards. i doubt this is for real.

Posted by: z at November 27, 2007 10:57 AM

Stunning. Renzo Piano rocks.

Posted by: Rehab at November 27, 2007 10:57 AM

Would put the Brooklyn skyline on the map -- with an elegant and significant tower. Good location for it, too.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:59 AM

It is strangely beautiful. Very tall. Wonder if those trees up there get oxygen.....Kidding, of course. You couldn't pay me to live there, but I find myself liking it. 10:50 is right, it does seem to fit into its surroundings. Simple, but elegant. See, I do like modern, new buildings if they are well done. If this gets built, I hope it still retains its grace and beauty.

Preservationista

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:59 AM

New York should be so lucky as to get some Chicago-quality architecture (and perhaps that's what you meant, Guest 10:57). The construction here over the past 30 years has been, largely, complete crap.

Posted by: Rehab at November 27, 2007 10:59 AM

Check out how the Empire State Building is reflected in the facade ... subtle.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:00 AM

I like the Empire State Building reflection in the facade of the building, though I doubt the scale, or whether or not you'd see the ESB from those lower floors.

Nice building, though - and at least it will have good views of ESB (and the rest of God's creations) from the upper floors!

Posted by: WBer at November 27, 2007 11:00 AM

This is only 250 feet less than the Empire State Building! Not my idea of Brooklyn's future. Are we going to get into competition with Manhattan for most unlivable borough? I was born here, lived in Manhattan for 1/2 my life, and am now back. I want my skies open or blocked by trees not by a wall of glass and steel.

Stop the madness.

Posted by: LM at November 27, 2007 11:00 AM

I'm def. not always a fan of the glass skyscraper. Don't like renzo piano's ny times building. But this one works for me.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:01 AM

lovely and amazing.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:03 AM

I don't think it's beautiful, bmini manhattanut I kind of love the idea of downtown brooklyn developing a gorgeous skyline - just fear that these giant towers won't have decent retail space so it will become like 6th ave instead of a really functional dynamic downtown commercial area.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:05 AM

I like it!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:10 AM

Obviously 1:46pm works for Corcoran, clearly...

The difference between Corcoran and other smaller agency is that Corcoran makes you sign an exclusive at a much Higher % then other agency, and most times they end up-co-broking with the smaller agency like Mary Kay, because she has the customers looking to buy in the area and Corcoran does not!!!

I happen to know that Mary Kay does co-broke. I was bidding on the Stratford Road house that Mary Kay has in PPS, that is currently "in Contract", and I lost out on it and I was told by Mary Kay that this deal is a co-broke..

So I guess 1:46 was wrong.

Just a little side note on most deals whether it's Corcoran, or any other agency when the deal is “in contract” or once it closes, we generally have no idea if it was a co-broke or not!!!

No agency post this:

"SOLD and YES WE HAD TO CO-BROKE"


Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:12 AM

I've noticed that citizen-led downzoning and landmarking efforts in Park Slope, Williamsburg and other places have met with (surprisingly) quick success. It's so unfortunate that people in Bed-Stuy are not organized or politically savvy enough to take up this cause and save the hood before it's too late. Better politicians and CB might help too.

The real bummer is the encroachment from Williamsburg into Clinton Hill and Bed-Stuy. All the developers shut out of other nabes will be gunning for us next. I have 3 major vacant lots on my block and I am scared of what will go up there.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:13 AM

Oh Please, keep building! Higher, Higher and Higher! Read this dumbasses!

Home prices falling everywhere: S&P
Down 4.5% nationally over past year, Case-Shiller says

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/home-prices-falling-everywhere-case-shiller/story.aspx?guid=%7BE0F209E8%2DB6B3%2D4352%2D8F24%2DED365FBA216D%7D

This clusterfuck will NEVER get build. Game over.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end.......

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:13 AM

It's too tall.period.

This IS the Manhattanization/Chicagoization of BK.

BK is BK, and the plans for all these sky scrapers is overkill.

AND I thought there was a credit crunch going on, who is continuing to fund these "luxury housing" projects.

Where is the person who always says "someday this war is gonna end"?

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:25 AM

its a city.

people build tall buildings

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:26 AM

nice

don'y know if, as a resident, i'd want to be in the same building as these mediocre college kids..so hopefully a very separet entrance/elevator banks, etc

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:31 AM

love it.

the nimbys are out in full force on here today.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:36 AM

Market forces will determine whether or not this building will get built. In terms of whether or not it fits with the "character of the neighborhood", this is DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN, not "brownstone Brooklyn". All the people on this blog who are constantly crying and complaining about the new development in DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN need to take a step back...take a deep breath...and remember that DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN and "brownstone Brooklyn" are two completely different animals...one has absolutely no impact on the other...it's analogous to people living on a brownstone block the west village complaining about the Freedom Tower in lower Manhattan...it makes no sense!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:38 AM

waa waaa waaaaaaa
its too talllll

why cant everyone just live in a 4 story brownstone like me?!?!?!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:39 AM

Um, 11:31, I'm betting most of those "mediocre college students" can spell "separate".

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:43 AM

I like this building. To the people who dont want tall buildings, I have bad news.

There's a housing shortage and NYC cant compete without population growth.

Posted by: slick at November 27, 2007 11:44 AM

FINALLY!!!!!

A true icon for the brooklyn skyline!
(and NOT jersey city HA)

all the other towers in downtown are so short and stout. definitely a welcome addition.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:44 AM

much better looking than forte

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:46 AM

how much will be set aside for affordable housing?

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:51 AM

OH WOW !! I work @ City Tech and there have been quite a few changes made around here . That looks GREAT !!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:51 AM

need to get rid of the concord villgae
what an eysore

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:54 AM

There could not be a better location for this building.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:54 AM

too bad the rest of the college is butt ugly

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:56 AM

You are so right 11:56 it is !! But as I stated before there are tons of changes going on here . It looks like CUNY has finally shelled out some $$ for this campus .

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 12:04 PM

I like it a lot. Keep building, its downtown.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 12:11 PM

I like this a lot... more like this please!!!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 12:22 PM

It will be good if one day I could work in downtown brooklyn.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 12:24 PM

nice. very nice.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 1:07 PM

1) find a job in downtown brooklyn
2) buy one of the many fantastic condos popping up in dtown bklyn
3) walk to work

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 1:26 PM

Looks nice. I look forward to it opening in 2525.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 1:37 PM

build this now.

truly yours,

BrooklynLove

Posted by: BrooklynLove at November 27, 2007 1:39 PM

i'll be posting on glasstowerer in 2525

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 1:40 PM

I love it

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 3:07 PM

Why stop here. Let's take it one step further and throw out all you brownstoners, tear down all your brownstones, and return everything back to farm land. Someone else, was always here first as long you you don't want to move forward.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 3:31 PM

judy francis is starting a new group to fight this called "defenders of the tower".
The group wants the tower to be built, except they want it on Garden Place.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 3:49 PM

Very cool addition to Brooklyn and a stunning transformation for an up and coming college. PERFECT!!!

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 3:52 PM

"Would put the Brooklyn skyline on the map -- with an elegant and significant tower. Good location for it, too."

My thoughts as well.

Posted by: an architect in Brooklyn at November 27, 2007 3:52 PM

The busy-body NIMBYs need to get some perspective. This building will be built in Downtown Brooklyn, aka the Central Business District of the borough. An area that is meant for and is zoned for tall buildings. All this talk about limiting the height of new buildings is really ridiculous and very selfish. What would you rather have, one taller building or 5 shorter buildings taking up 5 times as much real land? Hell, lets only stick to ranch style one story buildings instead of the "too tawll" 4 & 5 story townhouses.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 3:57 PM

I will be moving downtown and I welcome proposals like this. This building is pretty good looking and will add to the area. The students get a better building. The locals get more people which mean more services and more retail, restaurants and shops. The city will get more tax money. This is really good for the whole city.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 4:01 PM

That spire adds a lot of feet to the building height. It kinda skews the average floor to ceiling height.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 4:03 PM

The 3:49 post is hillarious, adults only please.
"defenders of the tower"
That is a scream.
Roy: where are'st thou????

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 7:28 PM

For better or for worse, the last Great Depression stumped the Brooklyn growth spurt and it's about to happen again.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 9:18 PM

The depression stumped the spurt?
Was that like a jeopardy moment?
hey spurt, who was president after
Millard Fillmore?....you have ten seconds..

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 9:30 PM

No, I don't see a Great Depression anytime soon.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:23 PM

I just can't care anymore.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 10:57 PM

No worries. Soon you will be able to spot it in your rear view mirror.

Posted by: guest at November 27, 2007 11:43 PM

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