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November 15, 2007

House of the Day: 244 Hall Street

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Pratt must be kicking itself now. Last June, the art college sold off a property that runs through the block from Washington to Hall between Willoughby and DeKalb in Clinton Hill with both a mansion and a carriage house for the seemingly low price of $3,000,000. (They also sold the adjacent empty lot next door to the same investor for $3,850,000.) Now the buyer is cutting the parcel into two, and trying to sell off the mansion for $3,500,000 (listing here) and the carriage house, above, for $2,600,000. That'll be a nice half-year's work if he can pull it off. As for the carriage house, it's a 40-foot-wide two-family house currently has a pretty non-descript interior. (One-half of the carriage house appeared as the subject of a recent Sketch Pad feature in the NY Times.) Since the asking price for the 3,200-square-foot structure is about $800 a foot and it's gonna need work, clearly this is being marketed to someone who wants to take advantage of the more than 3,000 square feet of air rights that come with the property. (The NYT story proposed a three-story addition.) Think someone'll step up?
244 Hall Street [Brooklyn Properties] GMAP P*Shark
Photo by Scott Bintner for Property Shark




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Brooklyn Properties also has the mansion listing. They had it way before Minsky.

http://brooklynproperties.com/house115.htm

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 1:50 PM

I thought the Sketch Pad piece concerned just the carriage house on the left, for sale for 999kish.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 1:52 PM

Right, and now they're marketing both halves of the carriage house together for $2.6 mil

Posted by: brownstoner at November 15, 2007 1:55 PM

Sketch Pad was for the 950K little house. Yes.

Do people think that's fair price per square foot? I love the little carriage house.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 2:00 PM

well, they've always been marketing them together and apart.

the little thing for 950k (maybe get it for under 9) may be attractive to some DIYer with a vision and not much sense.

http://corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=1071395&ohDat=

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 2:08 PM

I walk by here every day. That apartment building on the left puts tons of garbage (at least 10 huge black bags, plus broken furniture and other stuff) out on the curb a few times a week, partially in front of the carriage house (up to about the line of the driveway). After the garbage truck is done with it, lots of litter, broken glass, and food garbage is always strewn about. Its a gross smelly mess.

The empty lot on the right also usually has quite a bit of garbage, litter, food scraps, and broken glass on the sidewalk in front of it (Hall St. side). But I guess we can look forward to that changing once someone does something with this lot.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 2:19 PM

I found the plans in that sketch pad story pretty fanciful--a lot of expensive screwing around for this okay-ish place. I live a block away and love the area dearly, but I don't see this dark block of Hall or this house to be all that special. And maybe Pratt sold low, but all the buildings on this site need work. Hopefully it's just the ticket for somebody--would love to see that glorious mansion shined up!

Posted by: Rehab at November 15, 2007 2:43 PM

The Sketch Pad article was ludicrous. Hopefully, someone will buy the entire package and restore the mansion and carriage house, and keep it as a single property.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 3:03 PM

It's not quite an "empty lot" next door. Wasn't it really just part of the mansion's property, part of the garden space or the site of one of the mansion's dependent building that was taken down?

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 3:11 PM

Money-grubbing...

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 3:12 PM

Really think you could get the little one at under 900? Do you think you could with that broker? Just curious. I think it's an 879-899 place, myself, but I always seem to think the prices should be lower.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 3:15 PM

PropertyShark says this is a landmark - if true, that makes doubling (more or less) the building a much more lengthy process (if its doable at all).

Posted by: WBer at November 15, 2007 3:15 PM

This has got to be a record--the least commented on HOTD.

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 7:12 PM

Hey 2:08, Was that yet another Jerry Minsky plug?

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 7:14 PM

Who wants to buy a spot next to an empty lot that screams DEVELOPER and CONSTRUCTION every day for the next few years....

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 10:53 PM

I haven't looked at PropertyShark about title for these places, but I am more than reasonably certain that Pratt sold both of these places once before in the early eighties after they closed the English Dept and the Food Science School which had offices there. It's entirely possible the person who bought the buildings sold them back to Pratt when they languished on the market previously.

Maybe Pratt flipped them?

Posted by: guest at November 15, 2007 11:39 PM

the cool thing about this carriage house is that it's directly across the street from the Pratt grounds with well kept sculpture gardens and dog free grass. perfect for family with kids. also, the corner down street at dekalb and hall is pretty cute. party on!

Posted by: guest at November 16, 2007 12:51 AM

Brownstoner, really enough.

Posted by: guest at November 16, 2007 8:18 AM

So sad no news again

Posted by: guest at November 16, 2007 8:20 AM

7:14 PM It was!


Nah nah,

Posted by: guest at November 17, 2007 7:41 AM

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