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October 26, 2007

Video: Inside the Gates Renovation Blog


This video should help pull together all the posts from the Gates Renovation Blog over the past year. Enjoy. To see all the videos we've posted recently, just select "Video" from the "Topics" dropdown menu near the top of the page.




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Nice touch with the Velvet Underground-y music in this one, Mr. B.

Couple more points:

Gustavo doesn't indicate where his True Value store is located! It looks like Clinton Hill Hardware to me, but shouldn't that be a part of his advert?

Congrats to homeowner on some very cool work (sliding wall--nice!) and great-looking bath. You're some brave folks. It's very cool of you to share your rehabbing experience with the world.

I, too, like Elfa shelves, and it's worth noting that Container Store used to have an annual Elfa sale in February where the stuff was marked down a full 30%.

Also, I kind of like your Flintstones facade, in a way--it's like your lux pad inside will be camoflauged by the funky stone exterior.

Only thing I don't understand: What was that about wanting to install a home theater, complete with seats, in your rear parlor? You're going to do that AND let hubby put a huge flat-screen downstairs? I don't even get the appeal of built-in home theaters in giant mansions, let alone a townhouse. That's just me. Cheers.

Posted by: Rehab at October 26, 2007 3:06 PM

would love to know what budget was and what you've spent and what you think you'll end up spending.

Posted by: guest at October 26, 2007 3:34 PM

Yes it is clinton hill hardware And yes- they have helped me fix countless things.

Posted by: guest at October 26, 2007 4:43 PM

I couldn't seem to get the rest of the video clip... it abruptly stopped after " Garden floor before"... also, it would have been a good idea for Gustavo and Alex to give the location of their true value store.

I love the renovation videos, and hope to see more.

Thanks Amy for sharing... wish that I could have seen the Garden floor "after" pic! :)
Good luck in your home.

Posted by: bren at October 26, 2007 6:04 PM

I would really like to know how much you paid for this because your renovational price must of brought this to the roof. I guess you think it's worth it????

Posted by: guest at October 26, 2007 6:37 PM

what is that, a dig on Amy? get out of here! that house looks freakin sweet!

Posted by: guest at October 26, 2007 8:17 PM

where on gates is the house, bedsty or clinton hill?

is a brownstone?

i too question how they will have room for a theater with seats in a real parlor.

Posted by: guest at October 27, 2007 12:52 AM

Aye-yae-eye...

If we're entering into show business here, let's leave the funny to the professionals...

I may be riding atop the (ahem) elephant in the room but this vid (albeit interesting) struck me as another example of the human tendancy to "perform" for the camera in even the most mundane of scenarios.

Cudos to the sliding wall but huge TVs and home theatres? Bed-Sty the burbs is not. Careful out there!

Posted by: Greenpointer at October 27, 2007 1:14 AM

Wow Greenpointer, that's a GREAT way of getting more reno bloggers to open up their homes on camera: criticize my "performance"! Well done. Thanks for sharing.

Anyone who knows me knows that's how I talk, (not so) funny asides and all. Like it or don't like it, I don't know you so I don't care much. But it's me. It was an extra-nervous me, but me. And for the record, many people who know me have told me that I write the blog just like I talk too. I think it was a compliment.

As for your other oh-so-clever insult, that's something I can change, but you'll always be a jerk.

My husband was the first one to bring up the idea of a home theater, but he didn't have to convince me. I took an unfair jab at him over the garden floor's future big TV. I had always wanted a big TV down there too. But I did not want a big TV in the guest room, and after months of arguing with him about it (and losing) I let my sarcasm get the best of me. I'm usually the one in the house pushing for more electronic toys.

I never used to see the desirability of a home theater, until we had kids. Before that, we saw lots of movies, on a whim, whenever, wherever. Good ones, bad ones, it was all fun. People talking in theaters has always bothered me, though. It's just rude.

After we had kids, going to the movies became a much bigger deal, and every time our experience was ruined - by someone talking on a cell phone, a crying baby, a couple who just had to discuss every plot point right there in the moment, or the idiot who had to constantly ask the woman he was with what had just happened - it pushed me closer to wanting to rent movies at home instead of seeing them in a theater, where we have no control over the experience.

Renting movies at home loses something, though. The sound isn't as good. The picture is small. The experience isn't all-encompassing - there are too many things to focus on other than the movie, and it's hard to get swept up in a story.

Besides, going to the movies has gotten to be very expensive. The babysitter (whom we have to book at least a week before, taking any kind of spontaneity out of the picture) charges $15/hr plus car fare home. Dinner and a movie will run $85-$100 just for the babysitter. I'm a non-drinking vegetarian, so I'm a pretty cheap date, meaning dinner at a moderate place will "only" be about $30-$50. We have to book the movie tickets online ahead of time - there's no way we're going to hire a sitter and then risk not getting tickets. So that's $26. Let's say for the sake of argument that we just had dinner and don't buy any refreshments at the theater (although you can see from the video that that isn't always the case :-). So now, we've spent $141-$176. If we've taken a cab to the theater or bought popcorn and drinks, you can see very easily how a casual night out costs over $200.

So now, here we are, in the theater, for the first time in six months. We've chosen our movie carefully, knowing that we won't be seeing another one for quite a while, and we don't want to waste the evening on a dud. Just as we're getting into the story, the couple next to us gets into a fight. Or starts simulating sex. A hair gets on the projector's lens and dances around for ten minutes. Somebody comes in late and walks up and down the aisle for 20 minutes trying to find his friends. And of course, someone who didn't want to pay $100 for a babysitter brought the baby, who starts crying every time someone onscreen gets shot.

That's why I want a home theater. So that I can put the kids to bed, invite over a few friends who are well mannered enough to know how to watch a movie with other people, microwave some popcorn, and relax.

I'm not sure what the suburbs have to do with it. I've been to movie theaters in the suburbs, and people are just as rude. If you're saying that we're not entitled to use our home in a way you don't think is appropriate for Brooklyn, do what you want with your own house. We're doing what we want with ours.

Our brownstone is 20' wide. The home theater would be in the back parlour, which stretches the entire width of the house. Plenty of room. Seats on one side, a projector overhead, and a screen that comes down from the ceiling. Add some speakers and blackout curtains and we're in business. But that's a long way off. The parlour floor will most likely be done last, after the other three floors, the backyard, the facade, the roof, all of the windows, and whatever else breaks between now and then.

As I've stated in the blog, we're not going to discuss the specifics of how much the house and the reno are costing us. Suffice it to say that the reno is costing about double what we had originally budgeted/naively hoped for. Our contractor is more expensive than what we wanted to pay, and we ended up doing more extensive work in some areas than we had wanted to. But after hearing all of the horror stories about what others have gone through with their deadbeat, no-show, incompetent contractors, I know we made the right choice. Not only is he a good contractor, but he's a good guy. You can't put a price on that.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 27, 2007 9:16 AM

Wow, I wish I had the time to go around and post negative comments to the video blogs of strangers. Must be awesome to have so little else to do.

Anyhow, this was great, because I clearly have no spatial imagination (or familiarity with brownstones) and despite charts, sketches on napkins, explanations and photographs, I haven't been able to visualize your place at all. Pretty cool. And you were actually just fine in the video.

I am geek enough, though, to admit that what I was really thinking the whole time I was watching it was, I wonder who shot this and what kind of camera they used?

Posted by: Toni at October 27, 2007 10:28 AM

the camera was an old canon xl1 with a wide angel adapter. we use a radio mic and an me 66-

I personally thought that Amy was very natural- and although she said she was nervous she didn't look it.

The idea of shooting these was to help give people a sense of space and how the changes affected it.

Posted by: guest at October 27, 2007 11:16 AM

I'd recognize that cinematography anywhere. Nice job. Will there be more of these?

Posted by: Shahn Andersen at October 27, 2007 11:31 AM

lots!

Posted by: brownstoner at October 27, 2007 12:24 PM

Amy, I thought you (and Mr. B) were great. I really like the videos featuring both some of the reno bloggers, as well as other clips, such as the exposed ceilings. This harkens back to what the blog was in the beginning - people reading about what their neighbors were doing with their houses.

If people want slick production and polished actors..... ah, forget it. Some people will never be happy. They'd then complain it was too slick. Keep doing what you are doing.

Amy - your house is coming along great. Love, love the sliding wall.

Posted by: Montrose Morris at October 27, 2007 12:28 PM

I think the house will be wonderful and thank you so much for sharing! It's nice to see my husband and I are not alone in our renovations. He would die to have a home theatre! Good for you and your family, I'm sure you'll get lots of good use out of it.
Please post pics of the kitchen when done.

Posted by: guest at October 27, 2007 6:59 PM

Please don't listen to any of the negativity! Anyone with a brain cell can see your house is a gem - the ones making snarky comments about you or your walkthru are faceless losers. The idea of a home theater sounds pretty luxurious to me and I don't even have kids - good for you.

Thanks for sharing - the video really helps me visualize your blog posts better.

Posted by: Mrs. Limestone at October 27, 2007 7:11 PM

Thanks for the video, Amy. That was great! It really gives us a better idea of the house, which is hard to get here in Kansas. It's hard to imagine the depth of rudeness that would allow someone to ask you the cost of anything! And as for offering unasked for criticism, that I can't even believe. I think some of these people need a short course in manners. Or, maybe a long one! Again, thanks. We both really enjoyed seeing it. And you did a wonderful job...congratulations! I'd have freaked out.

Posted by: AngeKs at October 27, 2007 8:48 PM

I finally was able to see the whole video clip... Amy, I just love that sliding wall, very cool.

I think that you're creating a cool home that your family will truly enjoy... and that's what its all about.

Love the "command center" too! :)

Posted by: bren at October 28, 2007 9:34 AM

Amy,

I love both the video *and* the renovation!

Kudos.

Don't let the turkeys get you down and keep up the good work :)

Am curious: at the outset, how long did you expect/budget for the reno to take? I ask because we are thinking of tackling a similar project and (perhaps naively) were thinking 6 to 12 months max, but I see that you are still going strong after about 18.

Thanks again.

Posted by: guest at October 28, 2007 11:00 AM

My husband just read my long-winded response about why we want a home theater, and he says it's bs. He says the real reason is that he wants his porn to be bigger.

Amy

Posted by: Anonymous at October 28, 2007 2:18 PM

ha! ha! :)

Posted by: bren at October 28, 2007 6:32 PM

All husbands want their porn to be bigger. lol

Posted by: guest at October 28, 2007 6:58 PM

What's obscene is that it costs that much to go out to the movies. I hear your pain. Once you get the home theater up and running your baby sitter and her boyfriend can make $15 an hour watching great super sized porn while the kids are sleeping.
Jon, when you going to start wearing flannel shirts?

Posted by: guest at October 28, 2007 11:45 PM

Amy your house looks great and I am envious about the home theater. Contrary to Greenpointer, I thought you were very entertaining to watch. That music still makes me want to hurl and I think the videos are better when Mr. B is just in the background.

Posted by: guest at October 29, 2007 1:11 PM

Hi everyone....Amys younger sister here!! I can attest to the fact that Amy in the video is Amy through and through and she is great.. wouldn't have her any other way!!!

She is so great in fact that she takes the time to give negative nellies a response when they don't even deserve one.

The house is amazing....I love the idea for the ceiling in the kitchen...who came up with that?

Amy and Omer are good people and work really hard for everything they have....you deserve every square foot of that house!!!

Posted by: guest at October 30, 2007 8:56 AM

Awww! I don't know which sister that was, so if they're smart they'll both take the credit. Thanks!

To answer some questions, if anyone's still reading this:

The idea for the ceiling in the kitchen was totally Ms. Architect's. We wanted the garden floor to be one big room with no dividing walls, so she came up with a couple of ways to define the kitchen space: the lower, extremely cool ceiling, and four sheetrock "pillars" that kind of frame the space on the four corners.

Way back in the beginning, before we even bought the house, our contractor estimated that the garden floor itself would take about six months, so we figured a year for everything. But between his guys getting backed up last fall with other jobs, us taking forever to make decisions, and things being on hold right now for various reasons, we're hoping to have the garden floor done by spring and move into the whole house. I think if work had been done straight through a year for those three floors would have been about right. But I have no idea when the parlour floor is going to happen. I'm buying lottery tickets in an effort to speed it up.

Budget twice what your contractor thinks it will cost. And that's not a dig at the contractor (at least not ours). In the beginning we said things like "Oh, we don't care so much about that bathroom, we can do it cheap." That turned into "Well, we don't want to have problems, it just makes sense to pay for the good fixtures." And then you have "Well, we bought the good fixtures, now we have to buy the matching accessories - it just won't look good otherwise." (The fact those "good" accessories are largely unusable at this point deserves its own post.)

So, a bathroom that should have cost x costs 2x. Unless you're really disciplined, costs balloon in a hurry. And then there are the ceilings that fall down as they're being prepped for painting, 160-year-old pipes that disintegrate during a heavy rain, chimneys that need to be rebuilt...it's all worth it, in my opinion, to live in a brownstone. But just know what you're getting into and understand that a lot of the costs aren't controllable, no matter how disciplined you are.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 30, 2007 12:01 PM

I think it's no possible.

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