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October 19, 2007

Open House Picks: Houses

houseBoerum Hill
125 Butler Street
Corcoran
Sunday 1-2
$1,750,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseCarroll Gardens
148 Degraw Street
Aguayo & Huebener
Sunday 1-3
$1,649,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseDitmas Park
403 East 19th Street
Barbara
Sunday 2-4
$1,300,000
GMAP P*Shark

houseCobble Hill
21 Warren Place
Douglas Elliman
Sunday 12-2
$949,000
GMAP P*Shark

Tune in tomorrow morning for a Saturday edition of Open House Picks: Co-ops and Condos. If enough people like the feature, we'll make it a regular thing.




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The Cobble Hill cottage seems cute and all, but were the workingmen midgets? I'm 6'2 and would not fit in those rooms.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:21 PM

Well the average height of a man in the late 1800's was about 2-3 inches shorter than in 2007.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:26 PM

the are very cute and very tiny. I always tell my husband that when I'm a widower, I plan to move into one of those places and take up serious drinking.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:29 PM

Seems like there is still a very tight market. DeGraw street house is on the the other side of the BQE and the Butler house is near the projects. Yet the discounts are minimal.

Should be interesting what they get for these properties.

Posted by: vinnie_barbarino at October 19, 2007 1:35 PM

Re: 125 Butler Street

Shouldn't a Corcoran broker know better than to mark rooms on a floor plan as bedrooms when they don't even have a window and thus are not legal bedrooms in NYC? The bedrooms on the ground & 3rd Floor are both internal rooms.

Apart from that the lay out of each apartment is really bizarre.

The ad doesn't mention anything about vacant possession so I wonder if there are some rent stabilized tenants?

Anyone know?

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:36 PM

Re: Warren Place - Have the previous listings from there only had the 1 bath on 1st level? Seems to be going price but 2 floors down to bathroom would be a problem.
Re: Butler - one of the on and off again from Corcoran site. Disappeared - now back (maybe a bit lower in price). The modern one across from this house also disappeared from their website (again).

Posted by: Petebklyn at October 19, 2007 1:38 PM

I agree with 1:29. When the kids go off to college I'd like to trade out of my current house and into one of the Warren St. Mews units. They some like a good deal on an absolute $$ basis, but very expensive on a per squre foot basis. The entire house can't be 1,000 sf., so the price is about $950 psf.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:42 PM

whoa, Butler Street--don't be so afraid of color!

Posted by: Rehab at October 19, 2007 1:43 PM

Locations for all four listings SUCK. That's the only way we can make Brooklyn brownstone prices appear even REMOTELY sane.

Some day...

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:43 PM

the one that sold recently had a bath on first and third floors. and was much, much nicer with a very decent renovation, etc.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:47 PM

yeah, i'm not really feelin any of these places.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:47 PM

SLIM PICKINS truly.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:50 PM

What, no interior shots of Warren Place? I guess they couldn't fit a camera inside that tiny place.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:55 PM

I agree with 1.47 that this mews house isn't as nice as the others that have been for sale recently. Kitchen is tiny, and having only one bath two floors down from the bedrooms is a huge drawback. Guess they've seen what the nicer places have gone for and are trying to take advantage. I'd be really surprised if this sold for the price, but then again, surprised by the sale price of the others too.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:57 PM

Warren Place does have interior shots. But the Elliman web system is so stupid that you wouldn't know it. You have to click on the arrow to move to the next "page" of pictures. I used to think the same thing when I first encountered their ridiculous web design.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 1:58 PM

cobble hill place has only 1 bathroom, and its located on the ground floor! You have to go down to flights of stairs to shower and shave and then go back upstairs to get dressed. The bedrooms are tiny!!

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 2:07 PM

Thanks 1:58. Wow, looks like you get low ceilings as well as a 10'7" wide interior. It's Smurftastic!

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 2:09 PM

You'd have to put in a bathroom on a higher floor. You'd have to do that, in any event, if you wanted a bathtub.

What's with renovations that don't have a bathtub in at least one of the bathrooms anyway?

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 2:31 PM

putting a bathroom upstairs means you have to run pipes up (taking up space) and basically making the two bedrooms even tinier and with no storage

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 2:33 PM

A chamber pot would work.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 3:22 PM

What's the deal with the Butler St. place? Like a previous poster said, this was listed (at the same price) in the summer I think. Then it went off the site or at the very least, they brought down the pictures and there was 1 bldg that had no pics that was listed as "SRO" that sounded pretty much the same (but could have been a different place - just same price and similar location).

Anyone know the history here? Very confusing. It sure as heck has a lot of square footage though! (But is by the projects).

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 3:46 PM

"Tune in tomorrow morning for a Saturday edition of Open House Picks: Co-ops and Condos. If enough people like the feature, we'll make it a regular thing."

I loved the co-op and condo open house picks. You should do it regularly.

Posted by: cwh812 at October 19, 2007 4:16 PM

In Summary:

Butler Street: Too close to the projects

Degraw Street: Too close to the BQE

Warren Place: Too cramped and bathroom impaired

E. 10th Street: [sound of crickets}

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 4:18 PM

Re: East 19th street.

I ride my bike past that house once a week, and was thrilled to see the for sale sign. Its an outstanding group of houses across from a beautiful church. Unless I am mistaken, its on the corner of the block. I was excited to see that it was for sale, because from the outside it looks as though it needs a great deal of work and would be the only affordable house on the block. Boy, was I wrong! If a house in that shape can get that asking price, I guess I'm not moving any time soon.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 4:46 PM

You get what you pay for. 949 is relatively cheap and yes tiny. The Degraw street house is not on the best part of the block but the price reflects it. Last summer a 2 family on Degraw between henry and clinton went for around 3.2 million. So many posters want to educate others with statements like "too close to the BQE." I wouldn't expect it to be on the prime part of the block at 1.64.

Posted by: carroll2stones at October 19, 2007 4:50 PM

hello? mcfly? it's not that it's too close to the bqe, it's on the wrong side of the bqe. Thanks to robert moses, right or wrong, these are in many ways different neighborhoods now.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 6:06 PM

Steps to the BQE. 10 blocks to the subway. Far, far, far, far, far, far, far from prime.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 6:15 PM

butler street has c of o issues....I think it does not have one or it is over 4 family therefor a commercial loan is needed.....

something is up....nice house though...saw it in spring.

but too close to projects. the shooting & killing happened on that block in the spring. It was a fight between brothers...

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 6:45 PM

12 Warren Place which had a second bathroom on the top floor closed in August this year for $1.1 mil. 14 Warren Place also closed recently and I've heard the selling price was $1,125,000. I saw 14 Warren and loved most of the renovation. They turned the second bedroom upstairs into a dressing room but the kitchen was amazing (I could cook in it).

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 9:29 PM

14 was discussed here. Looked like Liberace threw up all over it.

Posted by: guest at October 19, 2007 10:08 PM

Hooray for co-op and condo postings.

Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 12:45 AM

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We are near to end of this Real Estate Mutant Bubble. I hope you don't have your money in a bank, that fucked with this mortgage shit.
It's going to be fun this week.

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Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 1:53 AM

21 warren i think is the best one out of all the other houses and seem reasonably priced

Posted by: armchairwarrior at October 20, 2007 10:30 AM

I think the degraw street house is on the right side of the BQE. I much prefer it here.

Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 11:54 AM

The What: I have yet to see you string a coherent sentence together. Has it occurred to you that your market intelligence might be taken more seriously if anyone knew what you were talking about? How about finishing high school before you post again?

Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 3:02 PM

"The What: I have yet to see you string a coherent sentence together. Has it occurred to you that your market intelligence might be taken more seriously if anyone knew what you were talking about? How about finishing high school before you post again?"

High School?

The What

BTW You will understand shortly.

Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 7:31 PM

i used to own one of the warren place mews - best house i ever owned. easy to maintain, easy to let. compact size is a benefit - i had a full bathroom upstairs but it was en suite to a bedroom. you always had to go through that one bedroom to take a shower. there was a half on the ground floor. they are 12 feet wide by 30 feet long by the way. communal access at the back of the houses. the best thing by far is the low taxes and 300 dollar a year garden/trash maintenance. great location in the heart of ch - really unaffected by the bqe as they are shielded by the block behind. bit pricey at 950k though. the others that recently sold looked extensively renovated.

Posted by: guest at October 20, 2007 9:06 PM

The only reason the Warren Place Mews houses could command nearly a million is because condos are starting to get that high in Park Slope and Cobble Hill. It's a condo-alternative and that's how to market these cute but narrow little cottages. Not as a brownstone-alternative.

Posted by: guest at October 22, 2007 8:52 AM

148 Degraw is definitely on the far side of the BQE (near Columbia.) It is that weird modern building which has windows that stick out in front at an angle. (Kind of like that brownstone in the Village that was rebuilt after the Weatherman blew it up.)

Posted by: Carol Gardens at October 22, 2007 10:46 AM

Sorry! Sorry! 140 is the condo building; 148 is on that block.

Posted by: Carol Gardens at October 22, 2007 1:08 PM

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