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October 16, 2007

House of the Day: 795 East 19th Street

795east19thst1007.jpgHas the area around Brooklyn College really come this far? A charming Dutch Colonial house at 795 East 19th Street that traded for $715,000 in 2003 is now on the market for $1,395,000. It's a lovely house, to be sure: Original beamed ceilings, wainscotting, and parquet floors all look to be in excellent shape. Regardless of quality, though, is this price remotely possible? One house two blocks away at 955 East 18th Street, by comparison, sold for $955,000 last summer. Granted it's probably not as nice but still...it makes you think.
795 East 19th Street [Brooklyn Properties] GMAP P*Shark




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Brokers listing page already says "Contract Pending"...

Anything is possible in Brooklyn

Posted by: howrealnyc at October 16, 2007 1:35 PM

I'm stunned.com. And its not even Scarano!

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 1:41 PM

Difference between this house and one you refer to at 955 East 18th is that the two houses are in completely different neighborhoods- neighborhoods that are separated by the old LIRR Railroad cut that runs south of Ave. H. This house (as well as the HOD from last week that Mary Kay Gallagher has listed for 1.19) is located in the neighborhood that is about to be Landmarked(Midwood Park-Fiske Terrace)- in fact the mtg was this morning. Not saying price is justified, just that reference should be qualified.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 1:55 PM

"Has the area around Brooklyn College really come this far?"

I live in north of Cortelyou and prefer the location to further south, but this place is in the Fiske Terrace proposed LPC designation, which must be a plus. This is a nice part of Victorian Flatbush. I think of the Brooklyn College area as east of Ocean Ave. There (or south of the railroad cut, the wrong side of the tracks as noted in the post above) I'd expect lower prices. Doesn't sound like an outrageous ask, unless you think the coming crash due to the mortgage crunch should be priced in. (Cue the people to join in to say that Flatbush prices will crash, while prices in their superior neighborhood will continue to rise forever)

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 1:59 PM

I agree with 1:59. This is a nice house and good renovation. However, the area near Brooklyn College is really a step down in comparison to prime areas in DP.

My question with this area is how it will hold up in comparison to other areas in NYC near a subway like Forest Hills. This house in Forest Hills (not FHG) would be $200k or more. FH has more solid schools though. Wonder what this would be in Bay Ridge by PS 185.

Posted by: vinnie_barbarino at October 16, 2007 3:56 PM

If it's as nice as it looks in the photos, probably not far off. That kitchen range alone is $6-7k. And the bathroom is actually really nice looking.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 3:58 PM

Beautiful house, with great Craftsman detail.

I'm wondering what people think about houses with kitchen and bath renos like this one. Not to bash this house particularly, but their treatment begs the question - do people think the bathrooms and kitchen should complement the style of the rest of the house?

This house has high end appliances, expensive tile work and fixtures, etc, etc. But they don't go with the rest of the house. I also question why you would put the English telephone sprayer and spigots on the outside side of the tub. You have to climb around it to get in the tub. They gutted and redid the bathroom, so it's not like the pipes couldn't have been put on the other side or at the head or foot of the tub. The stainless steel appliances and especially the backsplash and range hood just don't complement the Craftsman look of even the breakfast nook.

I don't know if the price is too high for the area, although it probably is about 300K too much, in my mind. It certainly is move in quality, at least from the pix, but I would want to make some changes on the very things that probably prompt the price.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 4:04 PM

I agree with the poster above. Looks like a lot of time and money went into the bathroom and kitchen renos and not only are they are out of character with the rest of the house but they are out of character with good taste.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 5:10 PM

Here is something Bay Ridge with nowhere near as much detail, but is in PS 185. It's close to 3rd Ave, 2 blocks from 86th St station and Karam:

http://realestate.nytimes.com/sales/detail/478-NA040273

In Bay Ridge you may have a house that is charming, but you don't see what is standing next to it. Even if it's a block of Victorian, the other may have all been face with fak-o stone and concrete railings, lions out front, etc.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 6:10 PM

The house is already in contract. I heard that it went near asking. I love the details and it appears to be nicely decorated, which shows well. I don't know exactly how much was spent on the kitchen renovation but it is ugly as hell. The hardware on the cabitnetry leans toward Mr. Ed's stable and the island looks like it should be in Jane Jetson's kitchen. I'd have to redo it.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 7:12 PM

That kitchen... the ugly... it hurts so bad...

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 7:50 PM

Saw the house. The kitchen may not be for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't say it's in poor taste. The quality is quite good. I kind dug it. The master bath is great and well done. The owners are asian and many of the newer details have an asian flair, but it somehow works.

Overall, It's really, really nice inside. The exterior needs a thorough going over and the garage is basically a condemned building (roof has caved in completely.)

The block is idyllic, but it's a long ways from newkirk or cortelyou.

I'd say it's about 250,000 overpriced.

my $0.02 anyways.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 9:01 PM

The brokers, especially Tracey McLean's Corcoran listing on East 21st Street, are really stretching it (ok, lying) when they say all their listings are in Ditmas Park. These homes, while on beautiful streets, are not "steps" to Cortelyou Road. If you're not familiar with the neighborhood, I would seriously recommend walking around the streets of these listings so you can see that you are in fact, quite a hike from these "gentrification destinations" and you will be spending LOTS of time in your car. I moved here recently and while I love it, I am ALWAYS in my car.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 9:18 PM

This is techinically fiske Terrace I believe and while it seems high, I see these houses going really fast. I live in the area and the subway situation is great. A few years ago when the D train here became the B express and the Q the neighborhood just became more and more desirable. I have met a lot of the brooklyn properties agents and many of them live in the area and have for a while so I think saying all agents lie is a bit much.

i tried buying in park slope and could not get anything with any space for under 1.3 so getting a big house where no one lives under or above you, outdoor space and tons of rooms- a bargain.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 10:08 PM

This is techinically fiske Terrace I believe and while it seems high, I see these houses going really fast. I live in the area and the subway situation is great. A few years ago when the D train here became the B express and the Q the neighborhood just became more and more desirable. I have met a lot of the brooklyn properties agents and many of them live in the area and have for a while so I think saying all agents lie is a bit much.

i tried buying in park slope and could not get anything with any space for under 1.3 so getting a big house where no one lives under or above you, outdoor space and tons of rooms- a bargain.

Posted by: guest at October 16, 2007 10:08 PM

Thank you neighborhood boosters. Let's hear from those who don't have an agenda. This price is way too high for this neighborhood.

Posted by: guest at October 17, 2007 12:24 AM

All I every read on this website is that "the prices are to high" over and over and over again.
Yet they all seem to sell and sell fast and since they have contract pending it's not that hard to figure out that they either got asking or pretty close to asking.
It's only been on the market for 2 weeks....

So I guess it's not to high...

Posted by: Absolute Beginner at October 17, 2007 7:00 AM

This house is in Fiske Terrace, which, as above posters have noted, is soon to be landmarked.

Although Fiske Terrace is not far from Brooklyn College, I have never heard it called "Brooklyn College Neighborhood," although I have heard South Midwood, which is on the opposite side of Ocean Avenue and which abuts Brooklyn College, referred to as such.

Fiske Terrace is extremely tranquil, and has suffered from relatively few inappropriate exterior renovations over the years.

My money says it will go for ask. And if memory serves me correctly, it won't be a record for the area south of Ditmas Park. I seem to recall several Midwood Park houses getting high prices over the last year.


Posted by: Erin Joslyn at October 17, 2007 9:07 AM

Which of the newer details have an Asian flair? I didn't notice any while I was there for the OH. There were several pieces of Asian furniture and possibly a ceiling light in the house. Otherwise the kitchen/bath renos looked pretty "racially-neutral". The heritage of the current owners seems pretty irrelevant to this conversation.

It is extraordinary that Asian people could possibly own such a historically "White" house, though, isn't it?

Posted by: guest at October 17, 2007 11:08 AM

why is it ok when people boost neighborhoods like park slope, brooklyn heights, clinton hill, fort green etc... and not areas slightly further away and more affordable, like fiske terrace, midwood, ditmas park etc....?!

Posted by: guest at October 17, 2007 12:18 PM

An agenda, everyone on here has one..even you
12:24 am. Why is it too high when it is so bigm but a 500sf condo for 549k ins't in parkslope on awful 4th ave? the price per square foot is much higher than this.

Posted by: guest at October 17, 2007 4:20 PM

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