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September 25, 2007
FG/CH Historic District Extensions: The Big Picture

The proposals for expanding both the Clinton Hill and Fort Greene Historic Districts have been developed in tandem with lots of interaction between both the Society for Clinton Hill and the Fort Greene Assocation. We've featured each plan separately in recent months, but the two groups haven't opted to put the chocolate in the peanut butter and come up with one map that shows the combined impact on the area of both plans. So we did. The map you see above (which can be clicked on to view a larger version) shows the existing historic districts in yellow and the proposed additions in green. We've republished the separate maps from which the information was drawn (and which contain more detailed info) on the jump, so let us know if we've missed anything in translation. The two plans really fill in the gaps, no?
Proposed Extension of Clinton Hill Historic District [Brownstoner]
Extending the FG/CH Historic Districts [Brownstoner]



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what are some of the implications of designation for owners-
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 10:40 AM
Thanks Brownstoner. Note that on the Lefferts Place transcription you did, you made it appear as if half of the northern side of the block between St. James and Grand is not covered. Actually, it would just be the Northwestern corner lot of Grand and Lefferts Place where there is a one story modern church. The other fifteen or so buildings on that side are covered.
Any news on when this might be calendared by Landmarks or what the going forward timeline/process might be? I missed the Society for Clinton Hill meetign where it was discussed the other week.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 10:55 AM
I am assuming the proposed Wallabout district on the other side of Myrtle is a separate entity altogether? I hope that doesn't get forgotten in the mix.
Also wondering about the huge Episcopal church and nunnery over near Pratt? I don't know the street names over there too well, just know that they are on Willoughby - near Skillman, perhaps? They deserve individual landmark status, if not inclusion in an expanded CH designation.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 11:12 AM
I hope this goes through. Well deserved territory, especially glad to see Lefferts Place, and the blocks near Fulton Street included.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 11:13 AM
they should call it fort blacke
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 11:14 AM
please no one take that bait-
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 11:20 AM
11.12 - The convent (a beautiful building, I agree) is east (I'm pretty sure) of Classon so it is not covered by the Clinton Hill extension proposal.
And you are correct about Wallabout. While technically part of the proposed Wallabout bay historic distric is within the bounds of Clinton Hill, it was determined that there is a greater chance of a Wallabout Baby landmark district if those northern Clinton Hill blocks between Myrtle and Park/Navy yard are included.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 11:24 AM
Notice how the Historic building "The Griffin" located at Lafayette Ave and S. Oxford seems to be specifically cut out of the current historic district. How is this possible as it is absolutely a historic building?...
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 4:16 PM
Ooooppps. Map shows how much CH border has been blatantly pushed into BS by Corcoran and others.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 4:33 PM
How's that? CH stops at Classon, or do you mean that you see listings that are Bed Stuy listed as Clinton Hill when they are clearly east of Classon. If that's what you're saying, I totally agree. Not that it matters so much, but it is commonly done.
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 4:44 PM
They should really consider landmarking Hancock street staring at Bedford Ave - what beautiful blocks! Anyone know if this is in the works?
Posted by: guest at September 25, 2007 5:56 PM
"Not that it matters so much, but it is commonly done."
It does matter. Deception (whether legal or not) is the most powerful tool in business. Without it, commissions would be less (by volume and/or sales price).
Posted by: guest at September 27, 2007 9:03 AM

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