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September 6, 2007

Condo of the Day: 177 Union Street

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Sales have recently started on this converted Carroll Gardens brownstone, and although the listings promise “old world charm with all the modern conveniences,” the asking prices seem a little dear. The building’s biggest space, a 2,000-square-foot duplex, is going for $1.8 million, or $900 a foot, while the three smaller units are both asking around $1,000 a foot. We asked the broker selling the condos what buildings they looked to for comps, and she pointed to 240 Carroll Street, a conversion that did brisk business about a year ago—and was priced a heck of a lot cheaper (units there topped out at $800 a foot). The 177 Union listings don’t include interior shots, so it’s hard to gauge whether top-shelf renovations back up the lofty, new construction-esque prices. Think there’s a shot these’ll sell anywhere close to asking?
177 Union Street Listings [Fillmore] GMAP




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if i'm reading the listing right, half of the duplex is a finished cellar, in which case the asking price is totally insane.

Posted by: z at September 6, 2007 1:33 PM

photos are on the realtor's website. low ceilings, boring finishes, canned lighting. looks depressing and dark for the potential it probably had.

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 1:37 PM

No only that but the Bldg. does not even boasts
"Old World Charm"where is the ornate details
on the exterior???

Posted by: mysideofstuy at September 6, 2007 2:05 PM

this does not look like the same building on the broker's site. will the real 177 Union Street please raise its hand!

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 2:06 PM

It was a gut reno (+ extension) of a pretty plain brownstone -- so I'm not sure where the "Old World Charm" is supposed to come from.

It looks like they were using nice materials during the build, but those prices are a bit nutty (especially when you are just a few doors down from the BQE).

Brownstoner's exterior picture is correct.

Posted by: sad_otter at September 6, 2007 2:20 PM

Those prices are laughable at best, criminal at worst

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 2:34 PM

I think it is very misleading to have a picture of a much more attractive brownstone on the broker's listing.
That is appalling.
The intent is to deceive.

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 2:44 PM

My wife and I looked at this house about a year ago and seriously considered buying it, but got cold feet. The location is not its best feature. It was going for around 1.5K. It was in very good shape as it was and in comparison to what one usually has to swallow as nice, although plain. Nice big apartments. I walked by this site every day for the last year on my way to work and I can tell you they gutted it right down to the bones and beyond - too bad. They extended the street level floor into the back yard a lot. I can also tell you that as far as I could tell the construction materials, are nothing but the standard builders fair. Live in Brooklyn these days and gut jobs are everywhere. I am shocked at the prices being asked for, then and now. Maybe the details for this house appeared after hours. I'm going to look at it just to see for myself. Woulda', Coulda', Shoulda', Didn't.
Brooklyn gets diminished daily by this kind of thing!

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 2:46 PM

Location is whick whick whack...

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 3:37 PM

"the asking prices seem a little dear"

That's an understatement!

Posted by: bren at September 6, 2007 4:08 PM

Woohoo, definitely close enough to the BQE to hear the rattle and drone.

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 5:34 PM

Price is riduculous as it is clear some cheeseball is doing the lowball reno. However, not understanding problems with location - this is a fab location. Other than the fact that is is not a beautiful block, it couldn't be a better brooklyn neighb. What is that person talking about that's it's steps from the BQE - so is everywhere in cobble hill, Carroll gardens and brooklyn heights. Since when did that effect prices? And i'm not talking about right on the bqe. this is btw smith and court...

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 11:08 PM

by the way - I've peeked in here - the building next to it has been joined to the brownstone so these apts will be super wide. Not saying they will be nice, but probably bigger than they appear from front of brownstone.


Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 11:10 PM

Love the area Carroll Gardens is great

Posted by: guest at September 6, 2007 11:47 PM

Looks like a standard width brownstone in all the photos. Perhaps you were peeking into the house whose facade the listing appears to be "borrowing."

Posted by: guest at September 7, 2007 1:08 AM

This is not between Smith and Court. It is between Henry and Hicks, closer to Hicks. It's the block with the police precinct and LOVE THY PET! The BQE does have an effect if you are within a block of it. More than a block away and you do not hear it. This is great neighborhood, but far from the most charming block. A question: Do people like it when all the interior room divisions are removed and turned into a big loft space? I've seen some nice slick remodels, but this one looks like the charm was removed--if there was any left--and now it's kind of boring.

Posted by: Carol Gardens at September 7, 2007 9:52 AM

All gut, no reno.

Posted by: guest at September 7, 2007 5:12 PM

Open house today...WITH BALLOONS!

Posted by: Carol Gardens at September 9, 2007 5:16 PM

Yay for balloons!

Posted by: guest at September 10, 2007 12:38 AM

I think the condos are well done and the finishes are actually quite nice. All appliances are Jenn-Air and there are unusual touches such as walnut floors instead of the usual oak, etc. It's not priced for everyone, but reflects recent prices in the neighborhood.

Posted by: guest at September 11, 2007 1:59 PM

Price: According to the link provided the duplex (assumption) at 240 Carroll sold for 1,680,000. The ask for the dulpex on President is $1,800,000 not much of an increase if the seller wants room to negotiate. Not sure why this is suprising to anyone.

Interior: Saw the place this weekend and the finishes and space seem nice to me (especially in light of some of the garbage that get built in the neighborhood, see Scarano's messes on Columbia Street); exposed brick, crown moldings, working fireplaces, high quality woodwork. The ceilings are all either standard heights or higher, so not sure where the low ceilings comment comes from either.

Location: Decent, between Henry and Hicks close to the BQE but who cares? So is everything in Downtown.

Picture: Would a buyer actually not look at the outide of the building they wanted to buy in? No one is that dumb.

Why all the vitriole?

Posted by: guest at September 11, 2007 2:54 PM

I DONT KNOW IF ANYONE HAS SEEN THIS PLACE THESE ARE THE BEST CONDO'S THAT I HAVE SEEN HIGH CIELING'S GREAT WOOD WORK AND A LOT OF CHARM I THINK THE CONTRACTOR DID A GREAT JOB

Posted by: guest at September 11, 2007 11:10 PM

Yay for balloons!

Posted by: guest at September 12, 2007 12:07 AM

i believe it's another gino vitale project
i was impresed great work
love the exposed bricks and high cielings 'geat space'

Posted by: guest at September 15, 2007 11:15 AM

seen the place yesterday
i loved it

Posted by: guest at September 15, 2007 11:18 AM

seen the place yesterday
i loved it

Posted by: guest at September 15, 2007 11:20 AM

is gino the builder that is building that building on hicks st
between degraw and kane i have seen some of his places in redhook
i am glad to see some people still take pride in what they do

Posted by: guest at September 15, 2007 10:24 PM

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