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July 27, 2007

Townhouse Condos Coming to Gowanus

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The Hudson Companies, the folks who brought you the J Condo in Dumbo, are gearing up to build a series of townhouse condominiums on a 50-by-90-foot lot at the corner of 3rd and Bond Streets in Gowanus that the company purchased at the end of May. (The Brooklyn Eagle cites a price of $7,775,000 but PropertyShark says $4,975,000.) The site actually comprises five lots (Numbers 107-119) for a total footprint of 15,600 square feet. With an FAR of 2.43 3, the developers should be able to build about 38,000 square feet of residential space as of right according to our calculations, though The Eagle story quotes a Massey Knakal broker saying that the number is actually 46,728 square feet of residential space. Hudson's David Kramer says the project will include about 50 units spread out over nine or 10 townhouses. Rogers Marvel will do the design. It'll be very interesting to see what the appetite will be in this area for what will presumably pretty high-end product.
Hudson to Build New Townhouse Condos [Brooklyn Eagle] GMAP P*Shark
More Detail on the Baby J Condos in Gowanus [Gowanus Lounge]
Photo by Kate Leonova for Property Shark




Posted by Brownstoner at 9:37 AM | Comments (22)
Categories: Development, Gowanus

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Is this a site that needs environmental cleanup? I'd love to see their Phase II report! I think you can get fed funds if you declare it a waste site. Did they do this? Some other sites in the area already have.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 9:42 AM

I believe the FAR is 3.0 for R6 on a wide street.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 9:50 AM

I've never read this property as a toxic site. It has for most part been under constant use to this day.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 10:08 AM

encouraging to read that the developer has hired Rogers Marvel as the architect - a firm that I think can be expected to provide an interesting design for the project

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 10:09 AM

i think the gowanus area really has the potential to acquire some experimental but really nice, high quality architectural design.


Posted by: stoner at July 27, 2007 10:22 AM

Was this picture taken a low tide?

Posted by: tom at July 27, 2007 10:45 AM

It's also 2 blocks to the subway and the eventual Whole Foods.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 11:09 AM

2 blocks? What are you talking about?

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 11:28 AM

2 blocks up 3rd st and around corner to Smith/2nd Pl entrance to subway... or walk east to blocks to location of Whole Foods... would 2 and 1/2 blocks make it more extremely accurate for your nitpicky mind?

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 11:35 AM

love the 'hood, love the architect. i've been waiting to purchase something...this may be it. have they started to estimate when they are going up/selling? my guess is at least 4 years with this cleanup business.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 12:16 PM

David Kramer shits on Brooklyn again! After permanantly fouling Dumbo he's at it again. Why does he shit where he eats? Oh yeah, money!

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 12:17 PM

hello! what's up with the stock photo from... winter, first of all? lots of potentially interesting things in the area, especially as local industry is still thriving and even expanding. if that's the sort of mixed-use area the architect/developer are glad to be in, alright... if they are hoping to push working people out, or get the city to do it for them-- as happened with the NOT OPENING Whole Foods-- motherfuck them and John Wayne. curious to learn what parking provisions, if any, there will be here also.

Posted by: flava flav at July 27, 2007 2:05 PM

I don't understand the pharse, "50 units spread out over nine or 10 townhouses." Are we talking a townhouse typology that operates really more like an apartment building? Will there be nine or 10 entrances? Five units per building isn't sounding much like a townhouse, but maybe I just need more information.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 2:33 PM

spare me righteous indignation and concern for mankind. Guy sells his bldg and land of his elec contracting company for great profit (small businessman makes good) relocates to Red Hook (not so very far away) and someone buys it and will build housing.
So, evil at work again. 50 units of new housing. abutting other residential houses. Oh the horror.
Everything should stay exactly the way it is (or maybe go back 10 years) and completely freeze in time.
And, do tell us, is providing parking evil or is not providing parking evil?
Can never be sure. Oh, whatever way the developer opts - will be evil.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 2:37 PM

Seems like too many buildings for what is essentially two brownstone blocks of 25 by 90. How would they fit 9 to 10 townhouses on a lot that size?

Posted by: lp at July 27, 2007 2:54 PM

LP,
where do you get your 'essentially'. Seems way off. Did you read article where said irregular sized lot is 180' wide? meaning street frontage to me. As in easily fit 10 buildings 18' wide.
Which of course is insanely narrow to all the Brownstoner readers that live in their 25' wide houses with 14' ceilings but believe it or not people all don't live like that.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2007 3:04 PM

Anonymous 3:04, I just read the brownstoner summary that said it was a 50' by 90' lot, hence my question. No need to be snarky. Clearly they will try to build several narrow townhouses to maximize the FAR, I just didn't understand how that many townhouses could fit in the lot size. I think very few readers have 25' wide houses, but 20' is pretty common brownstone lot width, and anything below that is considered somewhat narrow.

I did not realize there is 180' of street frontage, which would be different and more easily explain the plans.

No need to be morally offended or read something into my question. Have a good weekend.

Posted by: lp at July 27, 2007 4:03 PM

Dear Anonymous 2:37,

Who do you work for exactly and what might be your financial interest in this or similar projects in Brooklyn? Broker? Contractor? A local owner also hoping to sell? Whatever the answer, you seem exceptionally worked up over some very simple questions.

Similarly, maybe you can tell us what all besides abutting residential is in this area? Is it residential or is it industrial? Is it in the flood zone? I would think parking is important for such an ambitious, affluent project in this area; perhaps I'm wrong, or it is already accounted for?

Other than a tantrum, you don't really offer us much in the way of detail, do you, friend? Or are ANY questions about any new developments too many?

lp, good questions: this person is some kind of troll, although I'm not certain what kind.

Posted by: Magic Touch at July 27, 2007 6:21 PM

i actually agree more with 2:37 than i do the rest.

people will pretty much pick apart anything on this board that doesn't involve lining every street in brooklyn with perfect replicas of brownstones.

Posted by: stoner at July 28, 2007 1:53 PM

Hmmm. If your apartment has a toilet, in some sense don't we all shit where we eat? And for that matter, I'd eat in the bathroom for the right price.

If you were smart enough to live in Dumbo but didn't have enough money to take advantage of your foresight, become a real estate developer.

I hear the pay is pretty good.

Posted by: Anonymous DK at July 29, 2007 11:38 PM

That street is actually zoned M1-1, not R6. Do you think that the developer got a variance? Or do you think that Hudson Group misrepresented the zoning to the Brooklyn Eagle?

Posted by: KS at July 30, 2007 9:12 AM

I think you are actually not accurate.
Other side of 3rd is M not side where this project is located.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 30, 2007 10:02 AM

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