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July 31, 2007
Parlor Floor Kitchen #3: Jeffrey's 35-Footer

In the original parlor kitchen thread last Thursday, a reader named Jeffrey chimed in with a description of his kitchen design. He nicely followed up with some pics. We include those along with his original comment here:
We have a 20' x 35' house, so not much room on the rear side of the pocket doors. We built a small bathroom in the corner by the top of the stairs. On the other side of the bathroom wall are two tall cabinets where we put food and plates. On top of these, near the ceiling are two open spaces for storage and display. Across the room from this we have, along the side wall, from the pocket door to the back wall (r to l): refrigerator, small cabinet, oven/range, cabinets to corner. Rounding the bend, along the back wall: corner cabinet, sink, dishwasher, small cabinet. We replaced the middle window with a door to access a deck we built. We reduced the size of the other two windows (in the bathroom and above the sink). We exposed the brick along the side wall in the kitchen, and built no upper cabinets, though we do have a nice stove vent centered on the chimney, right above the stove (obv.). We have no island and have placed our dining table in the middle of the room. Advantages: no upper cabinets allows the kitchen to integrate better with the rest of the space (i.e. the living room through the pocket doors). Disadvantages: cozy, would like more storage. Over all, given our requirements, we wouldn't have done it any other way.
Update via email: "We worked with Expo in Queens (RIP) on the cabinet design and picked all the appliances there. Yellow glass backsplash tiles are from Ann Sacks. Countertop from Fireslate." More photos on the jump.
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Although I prefer the island layouts of the past couple of days, this has a very warm, friendly feel to it that also works nicely i think. Great job, especially considering the size he had to work with.
Posted by: Anon at July 31, 2007 12:04 PM
floors? can't see in pics. Original wood - same as parlor I'm guessing.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 12:07 PM
Its a nice look, but it wouldn't be enough storage for me.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 12:16 PM
I have to say, no one is making kitchens for a chef. WE get the granite, the faux granite, the stainless steel this, the best and quietest dishwasher. Investments for when you sell, you bet. I am a chef, at least I used to be, and I cook all the time. I never open a can, well for my dog, and most times I cook from scratch. Show me a kitchen that I would want to prepare my family's meals. I think not. You don't cook, your mama didn't cook, and you wouldn't know a functional kitchen if you saw one.
Go buy some granite.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 12:35 PM
Just as an FYI, you really shouldn't store wine on the top of the fridge - all the heat exhaust from the fridge rises up the back of the appliance and, as a result, the air up there is usually notably warm. Even if the temperature of the wine is fine as a matter of consumption of it, the heat can harm the wine itself and it can go "bad".
I like the kitchen layout overall, though. I might opt for an island for more work surface space, but since there wouldn't really be room for a table to eat at if you did that, it just comes down to personal preference. Also like the cabinetry, which is similar to what we have.
Posted by: EJ at July 31, 2007 12:36 PM
12:35, Send us pics of YOUR kitchen!
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 12:44 PM
12:35, if no pictures, at least tell us specifically what you think doesn't work in these kitchens.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 1:07 PM
This kitchen layout highlights a good cost-saving solution for kitchen workspace: having a table double as an island. While table height is not ideal for all kitchen tasks, it's great for some of them. By having the table double-task, the room can therefore feel less cluttered, or storage can be built opposite.
I am also a fan of the no-upper cabinet look, although of course it can really limit storage.
--an architect in Brooklyn
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 1:17 PM
12:35 is a troll that should not be fed. Stop feeding the troll!
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 1:28 PM
Most kitchen tasks work better with the higher surface of a counter/island. It is true that some tasks work fine at the lower level, but the real food prep work (mixing, slicing and other knife work, kneading, etc) calls for the higher surface for leverage reasons.
Posted by: Anon at July 31, 2007 1:51 PM
Actually -kneading and mixing are much more comfortably done when counter is lower. I do bake and make bread from time to time when I am not checking Brownstoner.
Re: chef troll - obviously we are not all chefs. We all try to have the best we can and what works for us. So you enjoy your kitchen and do not cook in ours.
Posted by: mg at July 31, 2007 2:11 PM
architect in brooklyn - I know someone complimented you as the voice of reason on this blog, and I'm sure you are, but that doesn't mean you now have a moral obligation to to weigh in on every strand with some kind of fair and omniscient assessment...
Posted by: anon at July 31, 2007 2:31 PM
Won't the heat/splashes and spills do damage to the exposed brick?
Otherwise I think it's super!
Posted by: Maria at July 31, 2007 2:42 PM
Very nice cabinets. May I ask, where did you get them, and what kind of wood is that?
Posted by: Amy at July 31, 2007 3:17 PM
I make pot brownies and I don't care how high the counter is!
Posted by: GHB at July 31, 2007 3:17 PM
to the chef...
will you please describe what you see as smart choices for cooking kitchens?
i'd really like to know. thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 3:44 PM
Hey GHB, the counter doesn't care how high you are either.
Sorry. The set-up was too easy.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 4:22 PM
Another great kitchen! I love how all the kitchens we have seen so far are so different, yet each attractive in their way and each managing to deal with the space issues in a unique fashion. This one appears to be the smallest, hence the lack of an island and upper cabinets; obviously a trade-off, but one the owner has decided is worthwhile. I like the exposed brick wall. It lends an air of warmth and coziness to what is obviously a comfortable family kitchen. Bravo!
Posted by: Park Sloper at July 31, 2007 5:00 PM
the range hood is sexy as hell.
and 4:22....very good one.
you missed it by 2 minutes though for it to have been perfection...
and ghb...wanna hang?
Posted by: slopehead...the poster formerly known as stoner at July 31, 2007 5:46 PM
2:31 -- What's your problem? I appreciate reading AIB's comments. No one's stopping you from posting on every strand -- and maybe you are, under anonymity.
Posted by: anon at July 31, 2007 5:46 PM
Agreed, 2:31 is a total drag. Being mean for the sake of being mean. But feeling really cool in doing so.
Blech.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 6:24 PM
Those look like IKEA Hallarum cabinets to me.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2007 7:05 PM
Don't think those are Hallarum - the grain doesn't appear to cross cut like Hallarum's do.
Posted by: EJ at July 31, 2007 7:23 PM
To wit:
http://remodelforu.com/Hallarum.html
Sorry for posting twice.
Posted by: EJ at July 31, 2007 7:24 PM
Bet the vent doesn't do the job if you are really cooklyng. I don't like the way the stove is positioned beteen the counters. I cook on all five burners, looks like something could melt at the ends.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 1, 2007 11:48 AM
Bet the vent doesn't do the job if you are really cooklyng. I don't like the way the stove is positioned beteen the counters. I cook on all five burners, looks like something could melt at the ends.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 1, 2007 11:48 AM
Bet the vent doesn't do the job if you are really cooklyng. I don't like the way the stove is positioned beteen the counters. I cook on all five burners, looks like something could melt at the ends.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 1, 2007 11:49 AM

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