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July 18, 2007
Condos of the Day: 163 Washington Park
There are no photos of the interior available yet but we suspect there will be strong demand for the four condo units that are being carved out of the brownstone at 163 Washington Park in Fort Greene. The 2,400-square-foot ground-floor and basement duplex is listed for $1,395,000 while the second floor unit is asking $895,000 for 1,278 square feet. Probably the best comparable out there for this is 302 Washington Avenue, the brownstone conversion at the corner of Dekalb. Two of the units there have sold but there's still an 1,825-square-foot upper duplex available for $1,325,000. It'll be interesting to see how the interior finishes of the two compare.
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It's hard to say much about the Wash Park condos without any interior photos or even a floor plan but it's a nice looking building and a nice location. If the interiors are pretty good, I would agree there could well be strong demand.
In contrast, I can understand that the duplex at 203 Wash, which has been on the market for a number of months, hasn't sold. It's a 3 bedroom (although the third is pretty small) so presumably it's meant for a family but how many people want to lug their kids and all that that entails to the top of this building for almost $1.4 million? I don't get why they didn't do the duplex on the lower levels. Also, it's a nice building but a very busy corner. Anyone know what the units that sold are like and how much they sold for?
Posted by: anon at July 18, 2007 1:17 PM
sorry, i meant 302 Wash, not 203 Wash.
Posted by: anon at July 18, 2007 1:18 PM
we sub-letted the second floor unit just before the renovation and our friends rented the bottom duplex just before the renovation. the units are laid out well and the view of the Park is great. i haven't seen the units post-renovation, but i liked the neighborhood and the park a lot, although i really really love where we are living in Clinton Hill.
Posted by: judson at July 18, 2007 1:21 PM
not gonna pay mansion tax for a walkup apt
not gonna do it
Posted by: Dana Carvey at July 18, 2007 1:22 PM
they ruined the place on washington/dekalb... hope it's not the same people redoing this place.
Posted by: g at July 18, 2007 1:27 PM
please stop already with the AY. are you just trolling around putting something about AY on every thread? anyway, this is a considerable distance from AY.
Posted by: anon at July 18, 2007 2:01 PM
The new windows look nice and it looks like they are about to apply the finish coat to the facade stucco work.
The fourth floor owner will have a shlep. But they will also have the best view. I agree that the top apartment is not ideal for toddlers or young children. Not great for older dogs eirther. I remember having to lug my retriver up two flights when his arthritis got bad. I think that's when I decided that walk-ups had their down side. But with no kids and no dogs there is no problem.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 18, 2007 2:03 PM
302 Wash is not very near to AY and even though the Wash Park is closer, I don't see any AY "effect" in relation to it.
Posted by: anon at July 18, 2007 2:04 PM
2:03: I agree. I was talking about the schlep up at 302 Washington, the building referred to in the original post, not the building pictured. 302 Wash is a three bedroom so it's a little hard to imagine that a buyer of it wouldn't have any kids. Plus, there really aren't views at that location. But I agree that the views of the park from the top floor of the building pictured could be worth it.
Posted by: anon 1:17 at July 18, 2007 2:11 PM
Those seem fair prices to me on a per square foot basis for a park block, at around $700/sf for the floor through and around $575 for the duplex. Can you get that anymore in Fort Greene? I saw the 302 Washington Ave renovation and wasn't crazy about the interiors either, and they were much smaller than these units I believe.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 18, 2007 2:38 PM
the nytimes lists an open house at 163 Wash Park this weekend, although still no interior photos.
http://realestate.nytimes.com/sales/detail/46-888692
Posted by: anon 1:17 at July 18, 2007 3:02 PM
the atlantic yards effect poster is a moron.
if anything, i would worry about the projects on the myrtle side of the park, although we never had any problems with them.
Posted by: judson at July 18, 2007 3:25 PM
2:03 pm
good to know i am not the only one
i live on the third floor and carry my elderly dog up the stairs 3x a day
i love that dog so i do not mind
Posted by: Anonymous at July 18, 2007 3:40 PM
Great, more fucking white people
Posted by: anon at July 18, 2007 9:04 PM
9:04 what kind of comment is that? What's wrong with white people? Someone needs to save these areas, I mean look how nice and safe the predominately black areas are. Should ship all your asses out of new York to Alabama so we can get rid of these damn projects, street shootings, and fried chicken places.
Yeah, white people are bad for the neighborhood, LOL
Posted by: Anonymous at July 18, 2007 9:17 PM
I don't know if it's appropriate that 9:04 is excited that there are sexually promiscuous caucasians coming to the neighborhood.
That's pervy.
Posted by: AnonymousNegro at July 18, 2007 9:23 PM
What's wrong with white people?
They always think they are trying to "save" something.
Our neighborhoods don't need to be saved.
What is unsafe to them and grimy, sketchy, or any other code word for black, is and has been just fine for us folk out here in the 'hood for years.
Posted by: boohoo at July 18, 2007 10:02 PM
ignore the racist troll(s?). Didn't we have enough of that last week?
Posted by: Anonymous at July 18, 2007 11:08 PM
The mortgage industry has been documented as biased against African-Americans. This is not up for debate. For years black brooklyn was redlined and getting home improvement loans was virtually impossible. Yet, many middle and working class black people did their best in CH & FG. It wasn't fancy, but it was still a solid, beautiful neighborhood.
Are people aware that the poster who made the "oh no more white people" comment might in fact be white? don't feed the trolls.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 19, 2007 7:40 AM
The mortgage industry has been documented as biased against African-Americans. This is not up for debate. For years black brooklyn was redlined and getting home improvement loans was virtually impossible. Yet, many middle and working class black people did their best in CH & FG. It wasn't fancy, but it was still a solid, beautiful neighborhood.
Are people aware that the poster who made the "oh no more white people" comment might in fact be white? don't feed the trolls.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 19, 2007 7:40 AM
Dana Carvy - you got a laugh, but I've got to go back to the "will not pay mansion tax for walk ups" comment...is that to say when you hit a few years of great bonuses and move into the multi-million dollar price point, you'll shake a finger all of these beautiful townhouses? FYI - for the most part, they're walkups! (she choppin - broccol-aaaayyyy)
Posted by: Deep thoughts by Jack Handy at July 19, 2007 2:26 PM
These are all great insights about 163 Washington Park. WHAT?
This is what we've gotten to hear:
1. An completely irrelevant reference to a development project.
2. Don't want to walk up stairs to the top floor? Does anyone see the three sets of windows under the top floor? Hey! I'll bet that means there are three whole other floors! Maybe even a basement! Gosh, if I didn't want to walk to the top, I'd look at the first, second, or third floor. Wow! Magic!
3. Black people, white people. Thank god there aren't Hispanics or Asians or Native Americans or Pacific Islanders in Brooklyn. I'm assuming that this is relevant to 163 Washington Park because all black people moved out and all white people are moving in. (By the way, having been there before the renovation, I know that no one who lived there before the renovation was black.
4. Is the mortgage industry located at 163 Washington Park?
Why do these discussions have two relevant postings before the same sophomoric development rhetoric regurgitates out of people who can't say, "Gosh, I know nothing about 163 Washington Park, so maybe I should shut up those voices in my head and keep moving on to another post without writing something completely unrelated!"
That being said...
(Oh, by the way, 163 Washington Park has a great layout. The rooms are huge, the living rooms/kitchens have an amazing layout, and the place is easy to move in and out of. The views of the park are wonderful. I don't think the top floor is available anyway, so might want to look into that before that discussion keeps trucking. Ultimately, I was shocked that the prices were so low.)
Posted by: Non Sequitur at July 22, 2007 11:55 PM
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