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June 25, 2007
House of the Day: 357 Dean Street
What's the story with 357 Dean Street? Despite having fallen into disrepair, there's something quite charming about this ramshackle one-family house between 3rd and 4th Avenues. According to Property Shark, the courts had to step in back in 1996 and the property was sold shortly thereafter for an undisclosed sum. We just noticed the For Sale by Owner sign in the window but there's no phone number and for all we know it's been there for years. Can any neighbors shed some light on this one? GMAP P*Shark
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yes, that for sale sign has been there for at least 4 years
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 1:32 PM
it used to be (still is?) a SRO...certificate of non-harassment was filed a few yrs ago
Posted by: anon at June 25, 2007 1:38 PM
it's for sale on Craigslist for $1.2 million, via slopebrownstone.com.
marketed as a teardown/developer.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/rfs/359266414.html
Posted by: chuck at June 25, 2007 2:39 PM
what does a certificate of NH mean?
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 2:43 PM
by the way, I saw the forced auction listing at nearby pacific street yesterday, the one with a minimum bid of $1.5 m.
It is a spacious 4 story townhouse with some intact detail but rickety, and some awful modifications. Worse, there is a garden floor occupant that "comes with the building" (you were not allowed to see in their unit). So I have to assume RC or RS.
$1.5 million for 3 floors that need a lot of work, over an awkward tenant? Yeah right. Bargain of the century..
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 2:47 PM
Sorry about my ignorance... but what is the "certificate of non-harassment"? Is it something to do with SRO buildings?
Posted by: anonymous at June 25, 2007 2:51 PM
Certificate of non-harrassment is required when you want to get rid of tenants. Dunno if it only applies to SROs, rent controlled/stabilized, etc.--and I don't think it does. It's an affidavit from the tenants stating that the owner didn't force them out by withholding heat, basting Norah Jones at all hours, piping Sarin gas into their apartment. Only in NY, kids, as Cindy would say.
Posted by: anon at June 25, 2007 3:05 PM
Um, I meant "blasting" Norah Jones, although I, personally, would rather baste her and serve her medium-rare.
Posted by: anon at June 25, 2007 3:07 PM
Please remember these laws wouldn't have been written if there hadn't been a need for them.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 4:04 PM
Please remember these laws wouldn't have been written if there hadn't been a need for them.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 4:05 PM
http://www.newyorkbidco.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.auctionDetails&AuctionID=359
this home is an amazing find, being auctioned on wednesday. we want to see the right people buy it, who won't destroy it. amazing details, and layout. great bones. 4 units. needs kitchens and bathrooms. the electrical and plumbing are question marks, expect the worst, though someone was living there until very recently. an old woman who lived there for decades, and the city took it over when she died several mos ago. a real gem, hopefully it won't slip away to a soulless developer.
Posted by: amazing brownstoner on greene/auction! at June 25, 2007 4:09 PM
I just called the broker for 357 Dean -- apparently it is so dilapidated that the broker didn't object to the word dilapidated and acknowledged that "most of the people looking at it would tear it down." $1.2m for a teardown between 4th and 3rd! Crazy. I guess it's only good for a developer who can squeeze multiple units into a small apartment building -- adding to the housing stock already being developed in the neighborhood (thanks for the info on that this morning, Brownstoner!). It's only a few short blocks from Flatbush/Atlantic Yards.
Posted by: Jen KG at June 25, 2007 4:44 PM
"this home is an amazing find".
It is? at a minimum bid of 1.5m with a tenant in the garden floor who can't leave?
I mean, it may be, but some justification as to how the math works out on this one would be nice. Unless I misunderstand the auction bidding starts at 1.5m and goes up.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 4:54 PM
Curious to know what it costs to demolish a building. 6,900 buildable square feet for $1.2 million = $174 per buildable square foot.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 4:59 PM
How can you tear down with a tenant that can't leave.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 5:53 PM
the amazing find is the home in the link. being sold by the city on wednesday. bidding begins at $720K. the poster had nowhere else to put it, wants to get the word out.
Posted by: wrong home at June 25, 2007 5:57 PM
Yes sorry to participate in all the confusion. Dean st is what it is - an expensive empty lot.
Greene ave auction is 4 units of unknown quality hiding unknown details. Can someone who saw it give a little more background on what they saw (if they want this particular buyer to enter a bid against the evil developers intent on taking it and trashing it on wednesday). Basement state? did it have any kitchens and bathrooms or just old ones? wrecked turning it into 4 units? any sign of weather entering?
thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 6:48 PM
And adding to the last post.. it looks like a similar house size and lot size right across the street sold for 725k and only a month ago:
http://www.trulia.com/homes/New_York/Brooklyn/sold/1362415-374-Greene-Ave-Brooklyn-NY-11216
So what does that make 371As value?
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 6:53 PM
That block on Dean has had other houses recently torn down with new buildings going up.
I think that is the trend and the future for that block. Its almost around the corner from AY Project and the subway. That street from 3rd to 5th Ave is the developers gold mine.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 7:06 PM
371A is hundred percent better find than 374. 374 had no details left, had been redone numerous times over the years in the cheapest of ways, and in my mind for any serious buyer was a gut job. piece a crap. 371A is a job, but having finished one brnstone myself, its the kind of work you want to do. you are not undoing other jobs, not tearing down walls. again, on surface great bones/structure, great details. its very dirty superficially. the kitchens have some great old double basin huge sinks, and a few items like that, someone could play with. not sure if tile is salvageable. in spite of perhaps saving some of this, kitchens need to be refinished completely. same for bathrooms. several clawfoot tubs, nice old sinks, perhaps some salvageable floor tiles, but it all needs to be put back together. the floors look like they could be refinished wonderfully. lots a painting. there are built in cabinets to be refinished in kitchens and hallways. staircases and floors appear straight/no sloping. can;t say much about the basement, that's a quesiton mark. plumbing and electrical are also questin marks. the house was looted, piping stolen, so plumbing is defintiely not in walk in shape. exterior seems in decent shape. lots a clean up. we're renting our floorthru in this area for $1850. with between 100-200K depending on the unknowns, you have one sweet home. again, an old lady on the street lived there her entire life before she died several mos ago.
Posted by: home on greene at June 25, 2007 9:11 PM
thanks!
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 9:17 PM
also, to answer posters questions, no signs of weather entering. no signs that anything was wrecked turning into four units, only one thin wall installed in the main parlor. some of the original hardware was stolen, like door knobs etc, but the original woord work looks great. if you are serious go up to the front door and try to peer inside, or maybe the door's open. roof seemed to be in decent shape. needs new windows though, as frames were lifted out by the looter. if you are serious, and I can help more, let me know.
Posted by: home on greene at June 25, 2007 9:19 PM
also, to answer posters questions, no signs of weather entering. no signs that anything was wrecked turning into four units, only one thin wall installed in the main parlor. some of the original hardware was stolen, like door knobs etc, but the original woord work looks great. if you are serious go up to the front door and try to peer inside, or maybe the door's open. roof seemed to be in decent shape. needs new windows though, as frames were lifted out by the looter. if you are serious, and I can help more, let me know.
Posted by: home on greene at June 25, 2007 9:19 PM
also, to answer posters questions, no signs of weather entering. no signs that anything was wrecked turning into four units, only one thin wall installed in the main parlor. some of the original hardware was stolen, like door knobs etc, but the original woord work looks great. if you are serious go up to the front door and try to peer inside, or maybe the door's open. roof seemed to be in decent shape. needs new windows though, as frames were lifted out by the looter. if you are serious, and I can help more, let me know.
Posted by: home on greene at June 25, 2007 9:19 PM
About 13 years ago, when I was looking for my first home, Roz Heubner showed me a frame house on Dean, either between 3rd &4th or 4th and 5th. It needed ALOT of work, but I still remember the amazing details to this day. I forgot the address, but I'm wondering if there are any old timers (or Roz herself?) who might know which house I'm talking about. I hope someone bought it and loved it back to life.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 25, 2007 9:57 PM
Its going to be a changing station for the nets. I bought it for investment
Posted by: Roz at June 26, 2007 7:50 AM
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