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June 6, 2007

Condos of the Day: 152 Beard Street

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Man, the new stuff going up in Red Hook these days is such a downer. Let's hope the neighborhood doesn't ruin itself before the powers that be make up their mind about its future. This fugly new six-unit condo at 152 Beard Street is such a downer. While it wouldn't be an excuse, the building's existence would be a little easier to understand if it were priced like it looks it's built—cheap. (Just look at those windows. Ouch!) But the $589,000 asking price for a modest two-bedroom just leaves us scratching our head and wondering which poor sucker's gonna fall for this.
152 Beard Street [Awaye Realty] GMAP P*Shark




Posted by Brownstoner at 12:40 PM | Comments (32)
Categories: Condos, Red Hook

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Who took the pictures on Awaye's website? Great way to make a sale.
A missed opportunity. Soon to be rented.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 12:56 PM

Red Hook is a very interesting, very special place whose "Forgotton NY" feel and idiosyncratic charm deserves better than this.

Posted by: donatella at June 6, 2007 1:06 PM

What tha hell is that? Garages entrances? Ugliest building so far!

Posted by: dester at June 6, 2007 1:15 PM

Just about the ugliest building I've ever seen....

Posted by: Park Sloper at June 6, 2007 1:17 PM

Builders just don't care and there are many people who find anything new attractive. There are a growing number of those Home Depot doors with the oval faux stained glass showing up all over the borough. There is a market. It's incredibly short sighted because the fans of new will always be and the buildings like this will need a second generation of buyers and I just can't see where they will come from. This crap starts out ugly and ages in an even more tragic way.

Posted by: anon at June 6, 2007 1:31 PM

red hook has always been ugly. so these fit right in.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 1:34 PM

Basically what's happening here is what's happening in a lot of places in the hood: builders are using existing structures (usually some kind of industrial garage like this was) and taking the available FAR and building on top of it. The sad thing is that since this isn't a landmarked area, you could have the freedom to do some really interesting contemporary architecture but that's something developers looking to make a buck just aren't interested in.

Posted by: combustiblegirl at June 6, 2007 1:37 PM

Why did they put two industrial loading docks on the building? Are they expecting that many people to be moving in? More than likely, to accomodate the hoards moving out.

What a horror!

Posted by: Preservationista at June 6, 2007 1:38 PM

haha that's a funny comment 1:34 pm!

ANYway, this sh-t is scarylooking. Bay Ridge has this sort of crap. But Red hook? Sad sad sad.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 1:40 PM

aesthetics aside, i just don't understand the pricing - this is still very much a transitional neighborhood, beset with crime, transportation and infrastructure issues. (i really do like the area, btw. just being honest). so i can see some highend stuff here for rich people with car services and /or kids in private schools. and i could selling really lowend stuff for the urban pioneer set, or whatever you want to call the kids in bushwick. but $589k can still buy you a decent, safe 2+ in much nicer neighborhoods that don't require a bet on the future. head-scratcher.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 1:46 PM

It's the condo version of a snout house.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 2:18 PM

Okay this is definitly ugly but whats "cheap" about the windows?

Posted by: David at June 6, 2007 2:33 PM

Awaye takes on some of the oddest listings.
They've been trying to rent this building on W 9th St for months with no takers, even with no fee and a free months rent

http://www.awayerealty.com/detail_rent.asp?webid=841

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 2:39 PM

2:39 post:

That rental is yet another Scarano building. No C of O, 4 outstanding DOB violations. Actually, even if it were habitable, $2,400 pm in that neck of the woods (bags of vehicular traffic, streams of folks on their way from the Smith & 9th subway to Red Hook, and the Gowanus Expressway within auditory and olifactory range) is nuts.

Posted by: John Ife at June 6, 2007 2:54 PM

It's even uglier than 145 Park Place!

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 3:00 PM

It's even uglier than 145 Park Place!

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 3:01 PM

This is absolutely ridiculous pricing for red hook and not to mention that god-ugly building. I hope it never sells!!!

Posted by: anon at June 6, 2007 3:28 PM

3:28 - it will sell,
3:00-Park place is a dream come true if you wear tracksuits.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 4:28 PM

This was a product of George Geannakakes, PE. PE = Professional Engineer. That explains it. No practicing Architect would sell their soul to produce this mockery

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 4:41 PM

how can people make such claims as"absolutely ridiculous pricing for red hook " when you don't know how large apt is?
A 2bedroom - could be 650sq ft...yeah then quite pricey or 1200 sq ft.
Why just off-the-cuff remarks without knowing more?
Where are your comps for new construction in RedHook? Or do you just like to make uninformed comments and pretend to know it all?

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 4:44 PM

quit the hating, find out more about it before you bash it...

Posted by: equalizer at June 6, 2007 5:01 PM

Wow! those garage doors are awesome!
You can park a couple of Hummers and a cruise missile in there. Great for a modern artist with large..um.. oevre.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 5:05 PM

you can make a pretty educated guess, 4:44. There are two units per floor so even if the building is very deep, hard to see it going more than 900 s.f. or so. More important, we know it's a two bedroom - because the listing says so. So - we hav ea two-bedroom apartment w/wall-in a.c. for $589k and a "private deck" that's not private at all but shared with your neighbors. That's a lot of money, given that you can get the same kind of place in other neighborhoods in Brooklyn and be able to walk to the subway in less than 15 minutes (and walk home at night, as well) and conceive of sending your kids to the area schools.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 5:08 PM

I fully take a shit on that building, the people who fucking built it, and most of all, whoever buys it.

I take a shit on them now, and I will take a shit on them forever.

Fuck them in the ass.

Posted by: Ed WHORE at June 6, 2007 9:35 PM

That building is dreck

Posted by: tommy at June 6, 2007 9:38 PM

I watched these go up when I was in Red Hook... the garage doors were there first. It was an industrial building and they somehow or other managed to "retrofit" a residential building on the back. I had wondered how they were going to get residents into and out of the building but from the looks of the photo (?) I guess they've squeezed in some sort of lobby between the two work bays. One way or the other you've got to give them credit for sheer god-knows-what, "build it and some sucker will buy it" audacity.

Anyway, I don't live in Red Hook anymore.

Posted by: ex-Redhooky at June 6, 2007 10:36 PM

hey 1:40 have you ever been to bay ridge? while there is some crappy architecture in bay ridge i could say the same about every brooklyn community. have you ever walked on ridge , colonial or narrows. sorry if i sound defensive but so many brownstoners love to dump on bay ridge and never been there.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 6, 2007 11:33 PM

JEWISH

Posted by: Anonymous at June 7, 2007 12:13 AM

I live in northern Bay Ridge (around 70th). I don't know much about below 80th. But so many limestone and brownstone houses are here. A few victorian houses from the time when BR was farm land are still standing. There are a lot of green and parks. It's peaceful. (Just not a idealistic place for hipsters.)

Posted by: Anonymous at June 7, 2007 12:51 AM

The comments here about Red Hook being an area full of crime and somewhere you can't walk at night are just ridiculous. Never a whisper of trouble in all the time I lived nearby and went out (LATE) there, or now that I live here. And, darlings, you CAN walk to the train, quite easily.

Posted by: anon at June 7, 2007 10:46 AM

Without tanking any position on the pricing or style, here is some info on the garages. They predate the residence on top and contain industrial uses. One of the garages, the left one, runs a full block north and has an entrance on Van Dyke Street. It houses the heavy equipment of the property owner's business. The right garage looks to be a tenant, much spray painting of metal work (grills, gates, etc).

Posted by: PortSide NewYork at June 7, 2007 3:50 PM

Just so you know, ugly or otherwise, 152 Beard IS spacious and attractive on the inside, and the decks are not shared, but private. There is also a common roof deck.
as for the pricing, if you look at the Awaye Realty website, there is only one unit left, and it seems to have cleverly dropped from 639K to 569K... I don't know, but i think that proximity to the city and Statue of Liberty/Downtown/River views are worth something.
My parents just bought (albeit huge)a 2-bedroom apartment in Brighton Beach's Oceana complex for over over $800,000... their kitchen is cheap formica, the building held together with what appears to be hot glue, and a 40-60 min commute to the City. Hardly any views.
As for banking on the future of Red Hook, I think now is the time.

Posted by: true blue at June 13, 2007 12:39 PM

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