Red Hook Grain Terminal To Be Concrete Plant?

a concrete plant is an ideal place to dispose of a dead body. I'm glad that Red Hook is continuing its cultural traditions.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 12:40 PM

Give me a break! Cement production creates an incredible amount of pollution not to mention greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide. Here is a list of just some of the pollutants that would be wafting over the ball fields and the surrounding Brooklyn area.

Particulate Matter
Nitrogen Oxides (NOx)
Sulphur Oxides (SOx)
Carbon Monoxide (CO)

Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) - e.g. Benzene, Toluene, Ethylenebenzene, Xylene. Ammonia (NH3)

Greenhouse Gases:
Carbon Dioxide (CO2),
Methane (CH4)
Nitrous Oxide (N2O)

Other Substances:
Acidic Compounds - e.g. Hydrogen Chloride (HCl), Hydrogen Fluoride (HF), Sulphuric Acid (H2SO4)

Heavy Metals - e.g. Arsenic (As), Cadmium (Cd), Chromium (Cr), Lead (Pb), Mercury (Hg), and Nickel (Ni)

Organic Compounds - e.g. Polychlorinated Dibenzo-p-dioxins (PCDD), Polychlorinated Dibenzofurans (PCDF), Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCBs), Hexachlorobenzene (HCB), Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs)

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 3:17 PM

Brownstoner, these articles don't say anything about cement production. Only cement storage and concrete production which is vastly different than cement production. Although still and all around bad idea to have this facility so close to ball fields, food stands, and the housing projects.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 3:26 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how cavalierly people try to dump shit like this into poor neighborhoods. who gives a crap if they all die of cancer from breathing in silica dust and all the rest of it.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 3:32 PM

Actually 3:32, it is the other way around, the poor neighborhood was dumped into the industrial area.
There has been heavy-duty industry here since at least the Civil War days.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 3:50 PM

Agreed 3:50. But the city is not going to move the housing projects, are they? And there is a big difference between building a housing project next to a grain terminal and having one next to a concrete production/storage plant. So how do you propose we fix this problem? I'm not sure myself, but I am sure that concrete production in that area is a bad idea.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 4:29 PM

4:29, I'm not sure I agree, first of all grain storage is no without hazards. massive explosions happen in grain silos due to the combustible nature of grain dust. That stuff is not good to breathe in either and of course it attracts bugs and vermin on an industrial scale.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 4:47 PM

I'm sorry, I should have written that there is a big difference between building a housing project next to a long abandoned grain terminal and next to a concrete facility. But rather than arguing about the relative hazzards of breathing in silica verses grain dust, I'll ask again if you have any solution to this problem. Because I don't believe that low income means that you have to breath in silica dust all day especially when it could be easily prevented. There are lots of other uses for a grain terminal.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 5:57 PM

5:57,
Who knows what the solution is? frankly, I'm not afraid of concrete. but the city planning commision, which is the group that is supposed to be in charge of keeping incompatible uses apart is perhaps the most pathetic, dysfunctional, and worthless of all city agencies. they long ago relegated their role of protecting and shaping the built environment to the lanmdarks commission, an agency one-twentieth the size. so its anything goes as far as the mix of uses in NY.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 29, 2007 7:56 PM