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May 17, 2007
House of the Day: 1127 Glenwood Road

This baby's hot off the presses, having hit the Mary Kay Gallagher website on Tuesday. The 4,400-square-foot house at 1127 Glenwood Road is divided up into two duplex units, one of which rents for about $3,000 a month. Given the rental income, the level of overall historic detail and the ever-increasing desirability of the Victorian Flatbush location, we suspect this will have buyers lined up around the block at the listing price of $1,275,000. Given its corner location, the taxes don't look too bad at $4,458 either. The only bummer we can see is a bathroom that redefines the word 'cheesy' and doesn't go at all with the rest of the house. Predictions on how fast this will go?
1127 Glenwood Road [Mary Kay Gallagher] GMAP P*Shark
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definitely not the best location though...you can reach out and touch foster ave and coney island ave
Posted by: anon at May 17, 2007 1:37 PM
I know the 1127 Glenwood Road house. It appears to have sold for a sane price.
Meanwhile, a house between Foster and Glenwood burned last month. It's now covered in a shroud and the lot is fenced in with sheets of plywood. Looks like it will be rebuilt.
However, it was a group home. No one will miss the residents if it becomes a private residence.
Posted by: no_slappz at May 17, 2007 1:40 PM
The 1.95M place is on 17th st. Amazing house. Truly.
Posted by: tag482 at May 17, 2007 1:52 PM
It's beautiful!!!
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 1:58 PM
Sorry, I clicked on the 18th St link. I was wondering why you thought the bathroom was cheesy. 18th St is beautiful!
Posted by: 1:58 at May 17, 2007 2:01 PM
That IS a bad bathroom. Bad, bad bathroom. I was going to make further unhelpful comments about how the tenants/owners REALLY needed to tidy up and de-clutter before the pictures were taken. Then I took a gander at the Midwood/Parkville listing on MKG's site, where the owners have their paper-strewn TV trays in place in the living room, and the bed linens are in the process of being changed in the bedroom shot. Gracious me.
Posted by: zeebee at May 17, 2007 2:16 PM
The suburbs are full of old houses like this. Although not usually cut up into apartments except in the most low-prestige districts.
Posted by: anonymous at May 17, 2007 2:45 PM
Really? Where? Not the greater NYC suburbs where I grew up (although there were plenty of soul destroying high ranches to be found...). I remember some older, very modest housing stock in the less expensive parts of town, but nothing like this (with the exception of South Nyack in the '70s, but that has all gone the way of gentification, much like Ditmas Park). I grew up in my 70s shoebox dreaming of living in a big rambling, Victorian, like the pristine examples on my Uncle's street in Rumson, NJ. Hardly the wrong side of the tracks...
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 2:53 PM
anon 2:53...you should visit montclair, nj or nutley, nj sometime...beautiful victorians everywhere
Posted by: anon at May 17, 2007 2:56 PM
I don't like the bathroom either, but then, I've never really been a fan of marble baths in general. They seem really popular in the city lately. I do admire the above the mantle wine collection though lol.
Posted by: rj at May 17, 2007 3:01 PM
Is the rental the top duplex or the bottom one?
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 3:06 PM
or Summit, Maplewood, South Orange, Haworth, NJ
Hastings, Chappaqua, Harrison, Purchase, Rye, all the main line towns in Westchester.
Roslyn, LI
Oh my god, the metro area is full of charming older suburbs.
Nyack itself is chock full of knock-your-socks-off Victorians as is Grand View on Hudson, Tappan, on and on.
The purchase prices are lower but the taxes are higher. Ditmas Park and PP SOuth are charming little suburban enclaves within the big bad city. People are always suprised by it, like they are at Fieldston in the Bronx. If you like architecture, buy a car. you can't see much from a subway.
Posted by: anonymous at May 17, 2007 3:08 PM
bad location- the house next door to it is terrible and couldn't sell to save its life it seems, is there a driveway on this? street parking over here is rough i think it is over priced for the location.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 3:09 PM
we have looked at several beautiful homes in Midwood--the problem is the surrounding neighborhoods are high crime. I have small kids and cannot imagine them taking the subway home in a few years by themselves. The section of Flatbush that borders Midwood is donwright scary even in midday and that is where the subway stop is.... I am sure in many years to come I will have wished I had vision but crime is too real now
Posted by: baba at May 17, 2007 3:35 PM
I love Ditmas! Love it! But I have the kid issue as well. I have little ones and if Victorian houses are important to me I would get one in a nabe that my kids can go out and play, walk to the store etc.
Dont get me wrong - I dont think it is a bad nabe - its just what is impt to you.
I think it is an amazing place with tons of history!
Posted by: Hmm at May 17, 2007 3:47 PM
hmm at 3:47--there is a big difference between Ditmas, very safe and Midwood, not safe at all....
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 3:50 PM
As a college graduate, corporate job holdin' lily white resident of a multi family house on Westminster, it's news to me that this is a dangerous area where the delicate children of Brownstone posters (as well as some so called adults) could never possibly live.
If the Brownstone posters are so afraid of actually *living* in Brooklyn, then by all means pack your bags and move to one of these nab in the suburbs you are all so hot for.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 4:22 PM
What the heck are you talking about baba, did you even look at the GMAP link? The house is like 15 blocks away from Flatbush, it's a hop skip and jump from the Newkirk B or Q subway station, which is a very busy station with a shopping arcade,
how is that "scary even in midday and that is where the subway stop is". Have you even been to Newkirk station more then once?
Sounds like baba and others see this amazingly ethnically diverse area, with the largest concentration of Victorian houses in the country, as less then desirable, just because the population is not majority white, like the suburbs.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 4:43 PM
...Midwood--the problem is the surrounding neighborhoods are high crime...
Yes, the Upper East Side borders Spanish Harlem. Does that mean the UES is undesirable? Clinton Hill borders Bed Stuy... Park Slope borders Sunset Park...and so on.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 4:55 PM
4:43 ethnicallly diverse is what makes brooklyn and all of nyc a great city but if you actually look at the crime statistics for midwoond versus sunset park, the numbers don't lie--Midwood is a high crime area....
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 5:21 PM
agreed 4:43, its like being on lincoln place in park slope and saying its scary because crown heights is 15 blocks away. But hey, its standard opinion. If I had listened to those people 5 years back telling me how unsafe 6th avenue between sterling and st. marks was i wouldn't have made $1 million plus on my brownstone to be able to buy a house here. They are either the people who always complain how expensive a neighborhood has become after it has been gentrified for a long time to the point where they "feel" it is safe to live or they can afford a $4 million brownstone without a blink of the eye.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 5:25 PM
total crime numbers for 2007
5:21 - question ...number don't lie
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pct/cspdf.html
66th midwood - 404
72nd sunset - 437
88th fg/ch - 399
Am I missing something? why say midwood is high crime or higher than sunset?
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 5:36 PM
I live in Midwood (70th precinct) and don't know what you're all talking about. Since when is Midwood--which is the neighborhood south of Avenue I--high crime? Maybe there's some geographic confusion here.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 6:19 PM
Don't take the bait. baba is just trying to whip everyone into a frenzy. ignore, ignore.
Posted by: Brownstoner at May 17, 2007 6:27 PM
Are all the Russian immigrants and orthodox Jews mugging people in Midwood? I'm sure neighborhood names have changed in recent years, so maybe I'm confused, but Midwood...high crime?
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 6:58 PM
I also want clarification re: Midwood. Avenues J, K, L, M--say, from the Brighton Line to New York Avenue is what I think of as Midwood and it's pretty safe. IMO it was prettier when it was all frame houses than it is now with its bizarre overbuilt mcmansions, but I don't really think it's that funky.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 7:52 PM
To the above posters re: suburban Victorian neighborhoods... Yes, I'm well aware these places exist (I even mentioned Nyack and Rumson). My point was that these places had beautiful, well kept, grand Victorian homes that are in extremely desirable neighborhoods....
However, to the poster who would buy a Victorian in the suburbs and not in Ditmas due to safety issues ---- I grew up in Rockland County and in my hometown just last year a woman was murdered in her own home in broad daylight by a handman she hired. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Crime is everywhere now. The poor are not just in NYC anymore... Many people who used to live in Brooklyn neighborhoods and can't afford it are living a stone's throw away from Greenwich and Montclair. Neighborhoods in the suburbs can now change in the blink of an eye... If you are a transplant from somewhere else in the country to NYC and don't know the NYC suburbs - how they were 30 years ago and how they have come to resemble sprawling versions of urban communities in many ways.... You should get on the next Greyhound bus from Port Authority and take the unsanitized tour.
I'm very happy to use car services for my older kids, BTW.... Better than having them drink behind my back then drive home from a party in Nutley.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 9:32 PM
To the above posters re: suburban Victorian neighborhoods... Yes, I'm well aware these places exist (I even mentioned Nyack and Rumson). My point was that these places had beautiful, well kept, grand Victorian homes that are in extremely desirable neighborhoods....
However, to the poster who would buy a Victorian in the suburbs and not in Ditmas due to safety issues ---- I grew up in Rockland County and in my hometown just last year a woman was murdered in her own home in broad daylight by a handman she hired. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Crime is everywhere now. The poor are not just in NYC anymore... Many people who used to live in Brooklyn neighborhoods and can't afford it are living a stone's throw away from Greenwich and Montclair. Neighborhoods in the suburbs can now change in the blink of an eye... If you are a transplant from somewhere else in the country to NYC and don't know the NYC suburbs - how they were 30 years ago and how they have come to resemble sprawling versions of urban communities in many ways.... You should get on the next Greyhound bus from Port Authority and take the unsanitized tour.
I'm very happy to use car services for my older kids, BTW.... Better than having them drink behind my back then drive home from a party in Nutley.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 17, 2007 9:33 PM
Well, if you want a victorian house in the 'burbs with an easy comute and
surrounded by victorians in a protected historic district...try this
http://www.344stpaulsave.com/
Posted by: dustball at May 18, 2007 6:57 AM
thanks 6:57, but then you have to live instaten island....
Posted by: Anonymous at May 18, 2007 1:07 PM
This is the first time we've seen Mr. Brownstoner ask for calm on a thread, in response to provocative comments about crime in a neighborhood. We always see these crime-trolls on threads about Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights and PLG and those get far more crazy and heated than this discussion did. Seems Midwood & MKG merits the quick intervention though. How very interesting.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2007 1:17 PM
Midwood and Victorian Flatbush ARE generally safer (statistically) than BS, PLG and CH...
Posted by: Anonymous at May 20, 2007 2:16 PM
Drove past it, the house looks much more tired and therefore higher maintenance than the picture suggests. It is literally two houses from coney island avenue which is 90% arabic/halal food places -- no problem for us, but it will put some off. It is a hike to cortelyu rd.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 20, 2007 9:23 PM

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