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January 29, 2007
333 Carroll Street: Watch Out for Flying Objects
The warning signs about the condo conversion at 333 Carroll started last Spring in a reader-submitted post on Curbed that noted the "sonic booms" and "brown chalky love" during the demo phase. To refresh everyone's memory, this is a 19th century factory that's getting an 8-unit penthouse addition courtesy of Scarano Architects. (Skyline view at right.) Things got a little hairier last week, according to one neighhbor, who descibed a loose piece of corrugated steel crashing onto the roof next to his living room (about 8 feet from his baby's room window), shattering the gutter in the process. "Perhaps Set Speed would like to buy there since he is already familiar with the architect and developer - the same as the Washington," notes the tipster. We can't speak for Set Speed, but as long as this place also has plywood floors and 5-foot ceilings, count us in!
On the jump, 333 Carroll Street before and after.
Carroll Gardens Hell [Curbed] GMAP P*Shark
Adaptive Re-use Projects [Scarano Architects]
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You can just call the dumpster company (during the day) and ask them to change the time they exchange the full/empty dumpsters. I did this with a construction site across the street (the dumpsters were being changed at 3am) and the woman who answered the phone was extremely helpful and said she would notify the dispatcher to change the time to 10 or 11pm, and guess what - they did. We weren't woken up again.
They have to do it at off hours, so as not to impede traffic. Let's get little perspective here.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 11:34 AM
This actually looks really cool! Can't tell much from the rendering but I'm all for a loft in this nabe.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 1:56 PM
While it might look cool to some or even many I would be very hesitant to go into contract given the recent history of the development partnership. If leaving the spaces raw maximizes the FAR than it would be illegal for buyers to add mezzanines but I am sure Scarano has them in the plans.
The problem besides safety issues is that future developers will use the height of the addition as a precedent.
The existing building is incredible and that could have been converted to lofts without doubling the height.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 3:30 PM
There's very little traffic on that block of Carroll Street, so exchanging dumpsters during the day would not cause anyone any hardship or traffic tie-ups. A dumpster on President between Smith & Hoyt (which is more trafficked than Carroll) is routinely exchanged during the day at least once a week for the past couple of months.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 4:01 PM
This site has multiple violations. It's built above the allowed FAR (claiming the 1st floor is for storage only-ha!) and the guys on the site are sloppy with safety. Rarely wearing hard hats and dropping debris from the 2nd story window into a dumpster (when they make it) Only recently did they install a chute. I saw the fire dept have to go and tie down the debris from the roof the other day. Check the DOB site and see the issues for yourself. This is an eye sore and is another example of how a slap on the wrist from the DOB will not stop developers. There is nothing wrong with progress but at the expense of safety and breaking building code laws is just a shame.This particular building was brought up at the last CB6 meeting. It seems that many of its neighbors are outraged by the height. Sacrano must have a deal with the devil.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 5:25 PM
I don't see where it say's anything about the 1st floor being storage? People will really complain about anything. I mean they are re-using the existing building and the zoning clearly allows for the height addition. What do you propose should have been done?
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 5:43 PM
I think 5:25 is referring to what is called the "basement" which looks like it will be at street level since there is also a cellar and the basement will be used for storage and a communication room among other things. It is on Schedule A and it looks like there will be yes - mezzanines.
5:43 can you reference what part of the zoning resolution allows for the height addition?
Posted by: Anonymous at January 29, 2007 7:13 PM
there doing a great job and neat.
Posted by: anonymous at January 29, 2007 7:30 PM
Scarano's website lists the completion date for this building as June 2006. A little behind schedule, no?
Posted by: Anonymous at January 30, 2007 10:26 PM
Dear Anonymous at January 29, 2007 7:13 PM:
The answers to your questions are:
The mezzanines are permitted per the NYS Multiple Dwelling Law, Artile 7B, which allows for mezzanines to be added in buildings converted to dwellings.
The addition is permitted per the NYC Zoning Resolution section 23-632, which allows for as building as high as you want to go as long as they keep the front wall at a maximum height of 60 feet, and then maintain a slope of 2.7:1, which means they could have gone really really high (up to 14 stories), but preferred to make a larger floor, and add only four levels instead.
Posted by: anon at June 30, 2007 12:48 PM
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